The Dark Knight Rises Tom Hardy as Bane XIII

[Gianakin_]

I think that at least a sewer fight is certain at this point, what with the sewer thugs' costumes and this last report..

 

[Travesty]

Ha, for one of the most intellectual adversaries that Batman has, Bane sure knows how to pick a quaint place to live.

 

[Frodo]

Ha, for one of the most intellectual adversaries that Batman has, Bane sure knows how to pick a quaint place to live.

I think Talia mighta put him out ... I guess he can't crash at his buddy's place or anything.

 

[RadioSha]

Living in the sewers? Bringing corruption to government? Snow? Catwoman?

I don't know about you, but TDKR is starting to sound way too similar to Batman Returns

 

[The Joker]

All of these young Bane rumors are so...freaking...bad...

I'm playing catch up. What are the young Bane rumors?

 

[RadioSha]

Bane = Revamped Batman Return's Penguin characterization

It makes sense

 

[Yurka]

There better be blood. I'm not entirely familiar with how the MPAA rates movies but does gratuitous blood automatically constitute an R rating? Thats one thing that bugged me about TDK, Joker was extremely brutal but there was almost no blood whatsoever and with Bane being most likely more brutal than the Joker there needs to be blood.

 

[Gianakin_]

Wasn't TDK balanced between PG13 and R?

 

[dark_b]

There better be blood. I'm not entirely familiar with how the MPAA rates movies but does gratuitous blood automatically constitute an R rating? Thats one thing that bugged me about TDK, Joker was extremely brutal but there was almost no blood whatsoever and with Bane being most likely more brutal than the Joker there needs to be blood.

yes.

 

[The Morningstar]

I just had a problem with the bank robbery. Especially when Joker shot the bank manager guy. It was a gut shot, there should have been some blood there.

I mean, Captain America had more blood than TDK. With proper blood squibs when people got shot and that part where the Hydra soldier got splattered by the propeller.

 

[Figs]

yes.

What about Captain America? A Hydra soldier gets knocked into one of the plane's propellers and it turns into a bloody mess. I'm still not sure how they got away with that on top of all the other deaths in that movie. Not complaining of course.

 

[The Morningstar]

The thing is, it's not just about blood for bloods sake. But it just kinda takes me out of the movie when a guy gets shot at point blank range in the chest by an automatic weapon and all we see is smoke. (when Joker nonchalantly sprays a few bullets into the bus driver, which was awesome though)

 

[TheFuture]

The bat forums....where people go bat **** over something they haven't even seen yet.

 

[Gianakin_]

I just had a problem with the bank robbery. Especially when Joker shot the bank manager guy. It was a gut shot, there should have been some blood there.

Gut shot? Didn't he shoot the guy in the legs?

I mean, Captain America had more blood than TDK. With proper blood squibs when people got shot and that part where the Hydra soldier got splattered by the propeller.

But it wasn't as violent as TDK in terms of what it suggested. I'm pretty sure that TDK pushed the limits of PG-13 very far and nearly got an R rating.

 

[regwec]

There was a huge amount of "menace" in TDK. The shakey-cam footage of The Joker humiliating and then (implicitly) murdering the fake Batman, after we had just seen the corpse, would probably be quite disturbing to some. That scene didn't need blood to seem gruesome.

 

[Yurka]

yes.

Thanks.



All the real "close-up" violence happens off screen in TDK, with the exception of Harvey getting burned and the banker getting shot.

One thing that really blows my mind is the scene with the dead faux Batman, when they filmed it the joker card was stabbed into his chest with a knife with little blood marks around the card, in the movie it's safety pinned

 

[Blue_Scholar]

There better be blood. I'm not entirely familiar with how the MPAA rates movies but does gratuitous blood automatically constitute an R rating? Thats one thing that bugged me about TDK, Joker was extremely brutal but there was almost no blood whatsoever and with Bane being most likely more brutal than the Joker there needs to be blood.

Jurassic Park had a good amount of blood and gore and it was PG-13.


Oh and one other thing. Wasn't PG-13 invented because Mola-Raam ripped peoples hearts out of there chests?

 

[Liam_H]

The fact that it was a Spielberg film also helped a little bit.

 

[jacobed]

Temple of Doom and Gremlins were the big reason for the pg-13. I think the difference between TDK and Captain America in terms of blood and violence is the intensity of it. If they showed blood everywhere they should have in TDK than it would have been rated R because of the intensity of the violence whereas Captain America's blood use wasn't all that intense thus they were able to get away with it.

 

[regwec]

Context is important, as well. I haven't seen "Captain America", but its tone seems lighter than that of TDK, which featured implied torture, mutilation, disfigurement and a guy being burned alive. I don't think you could show all of that graphically without dodging the censor's scalpel.

 

[dark_b]

yes the CA scene was meant to be ''Spielberg adventure funny scene''.

 

[The_Raganork]

Edit: Had no point.

 

[Boom]

Bane and his men hiding out in the sewers makes perfect sense to me, considering everything they're doing to Gotham.

Where else would a mercenary group hide in a city that is turning over every stone to find them?

 

[The Morningstar]

Gut shot? Didn't he shoot the guy in the legs?



But it wasn't as violent as TDK in terms of what it suggested. I'm pretty sure that TDK pushed the limits of PG-13 very far and nearly got an R rating.

Huh? People were getting shot left right and centre. Dr Erskine took multiple bullets to the chest, and had proper blood squibs. You then see the assassin eat a poison pill and start foaming at the mouth whilst dying. A guy literally got SPLATTERED by a propeller. Blood everywhere.

That isn't violent or intense?

 

[Gianakin_]

Huh? People were getting shot left right and centre. Dr Erskine took multiple bullets to the chest, and had proper blood squibs. You then see the assassin eat a poison pill and start foaming at the mouth whilst dying. A guy literally got SPLATTERED by a propeller. Blood everywhere.

That isn't violent or intense?

No, not as intense as in TDK, mainly because of the tone. For example, in Indy 1, a guy goes through a propeller, but the whole thing is light in tone. In TDK every murder or implication of torture was really heavily presented.