The Dark Knight Rises Tom Hardy as Bane XIV

[DoomsdayApex]

Exactly. Where the Joker was this distinct force of chaos, opposite Batman's pursuit for justice, Bane uses Batman's methods of theatricality and deception while pursuing his own distinct goal. It's calculated, it has purpose, but that's not to say his strategy is lacks the unrelenting quality of the Joker's.

Where the Joker wanted Gotham to fall into hopelessness and despair, Bane, I believe, wants to manipulate Gotham into destruction. His massive demeanor and thespian tone is a testament to this large-scale "turning Gotham on itself" strategy. The dude is a genius and he's the perfect pick for the final film in Nolan's trilogy, as he brings a whole new method of villainy to the table.

That's what I'm thinking.

In my opinion, I think the Joker is a bit overrated. Fans give him way too much credit. Bane is hopefully going to turn the tables on these fans and the general audience. This man is a different breed. The Joker was unstable and depended on a nihilistic view of humanity to succeed. Bane, however, won't be depending on anything to get the job done. He's coming to Gotham to shed blood and he won't hesitate to accomplish it. No mindgames, no riddles, no seduction, etc.

Assuming from what I've seen on set, I think Nolan is going to approach Bane as a harden combat merc. A man (who has never failed) that has traveled the global hunting down targets, but not for cash. Instead, it'll be a mixture of glory and idealism that drives Bane.

 

[regwec]

But The Joker is far more interesting than what you just described. I don't think Batman fans really "rate" the villains just on the degree of threat that they pose to Batman, but on the interest of the dramatic interplay between them.

 

[Gianakin_]

Bane has nothing on Joker, thematically. Nothing.

 

[Poeman]

FYI- You guys have to see Warrior if not yet seen. One of the best sports films I've seen.

 

[regwec]

I can't pick a solid three in reality. There are so many villains that Batman has encountered that are impressive.

Deathstroke
Lady Shiva
Deadshot
Clayface
Killer Croc
Ra's al Ghul
The Joker
The Penguin
Mr. Freeze
Bane
Two-Face
Scarecrow

Dead Shot gets onto your list and neither the Riddler or the Ventriloquist do?

 

[Gianakin_]

Dead Shot gets onto your list and neither the Riddler or the Ventriloquist do?

What's worse, Lady Shiva is on that list instead of the Riddler.

 

[Lily Adler]

The Riddler is an acquired taste.

 

[regwec]

Deadshot is no taste.

 

[DoomsdayApex]

Bane has nothing on Joker, thematically. Nothing.

Your opinion. Joker is the most overrated villain in the Batman universe, in my opinion. The Joker has nothing on Bane. t:


Sorry ladies and gents, I never liked the Riddler or his twin The Mad Hatter.

 

[The Joker]

I don't think Bane would make many people's top three. I don't think any post 70s villain would.

Honestly he's not worthy of it either, IMO. His only real claim to fame is breaking Batman's back, but he didn't even manage that by taking Batman on in his prime. He had to break out all of Arkham Asylum and wait for them to wear Batman out before he took him on.

It's a sly and clever way to defeat your enemy, but it would be more impressive if Bane had taken Batman on and beaten him in a fair fight to prove he's Batman's better.

 

[Gianakin_]

Your opinion. Joker is the most overrated villain in the Batman universe, in my opinion. The Joker has nothing on Bane. t:

Well, of course it's a matter of opinion, but in no way or shape will I ever be able to understand yours. Just like I can't understand anyone who likes the Bayformers.

 

[Lily Adler]

Your opinion. Joker is the most overrated villain in the Batman universe, in my opinion. The Joker has nothing on Bane. t:


Sorry ladies and gents, I never liked the Riddler or his twin The Mad Hatter.

Oh please, the obvious choice for best villain goes to Calender Man. HE ROCKS!

 

[DoomsdayApex]

Well, of course it's a matter of opinion, but in no way or shape will I ever be able to understand yours. Just like I can't understand anyone who likes the Bayformers.

It's always hilarious to see Joker fans take it on the chin...

 

[regwec]

It's always hilarious to see Joker fans to take it on the chin...

I don't think you can really talk about "Joker fans" as if they are some sort of minority within the broader tribe of Batman fans. I expect about 99.99% of comic-reading Batman fans would also describe themselves as "Joker fans", and about 60% of these would say that he was their favourite villain.

Guesswork, of course, but that would be my estimate.

 

[The Joker]

It's always hilarious to see Joker fans take it on the chin...

Take what on the chin? A minority opinion?

It's not just Joker fans who think he's the best. It's the general consensus.

 

[Boom]

As far as the comics go, there is no way in hell Bane is a superior villain to The Joker.

Not even close.

 

[DoomsdayApex]

ANY form of opinion that doesn't kiss The Joker's a**.

I don't care about your opinions. I believe Bane is the most underrated and underutilized villain in the Bat-Universe.

 

[Gianakin_]

ANY form of opinion that doesn't kiss The Joker's a**.

I don't care about your opinions. I believe Bane is the most underrated and underutilized villain in the Bat-Universe.

Getting kinda aggressive there. Nobody said your opinion isn't valid. It's just that it's a... new one. And we ARE allowed to disagree, aren't we?

 

[I'm Not a Hero]

Joker is overrated.

Bane is far superior.

/thread

 

[regwec]

He turns up all the time. He is the main character in a monthly team-up comic. Not even The Joker enjoys that spotlight. Why do you say he is under-used?

 

[regwec]

Joker is overrated.

Bane is far superior.

/thread

Whoah, watch out guys. "I'm Not a Hero" has cast his/her revered judgment on the issue. Better fall into line.

 

[Boom]

We're not worthy !

 

[The Joker]

Whoah, watch out guys. "I'm Not a Hero" has cast his/her revered judgment on the issue. Better fall into line.

Especially when he/she wonders if Catwoman is like Dr. Dolittle and can make cats listen to her http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=21456837&postcount=510

I must bow to someone who has superior Batman knowledge like that

 

[The_Raganork]

Especially when he/she wonders if Catwoman is like Dr. Dolittle and can make cats listen to her http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=21456837&postcount=510

I must bow to someone who has superior Batman knowledge like that

I read that post before and just signed off.

 

[DoomsdayApex]

Getting kinda aggressive there. Nobody said your opinion isn't valid. It's just that it's a... new one. And we ARE allowed to disagree, aren't we?

Nope, I don't get aggressive over a small debate. I simply just don't give a damn about other fans' opinions regarding Bane and The Joker. I have mine, and mine alone.

There are personal reasons why I prefer Bane over any other villain.