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The Dark Knight Rises Tom Hardy as Bane XXIII

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HOLY MOTHER FUK** SH** BADASS :wow:

THIS MOVIE BREAK ALL RECORDS :hrt:
 
Heh, don't get your hopes up, this is a CGI rendering of Bane. He won't be as big in the actual movie. However, I agree, I hope it breaks all records.
 
Heh, don't get your hopes up, this is a CGI rendering of Bane. He won't be as big in the actual movie. However, I agree, I hope it breaks all records.

I thought it was only promotional art.... :huh:
 
It's a myth that bodybuilders are slow, as if they are hindered by their bulk. Weightlifting itself trains your flexibility as much as it does your strength and size. If you do it correctly of course. I'm not talking about curl-bros here.

The biggest challenge a real-life Batman or Bane would face being the size of a bodybuilder would be eating enough to maintain their size.
 
JAK®;22999797 said:
It's a myth that bodybuilders are slow, as if they are hindered by their bulk. Weightlifting itself trains your flexibility as much as it does your strength and size. If you do it correctly of course. I'm not talking about curl-bros here.

The biggest challenge a real-life Batman or Bane would face being the size of a bodybuilder would be eating enough to maintain their size.

Yeah, you're absolutely right. It's not weightlifting that makes you slow or something like that. But you gotta train smart. ;)
 
JAK®;22999797 said:
It's a myth that bodybuilders are slow, as if they are hindered by their bulk. Weightlifting itself trains your flexibility as much as it does your strength and size. If you do it correctly of course. I'm not talking about curl-bros here.

The biggest challenge a real-life Batman or Bane would face being the size of a bodybuilder would be eating enough to maintain their size.

Weightlifting, yeah, you can be fexible but the problem I see with builders is their cardio, they suck at it, I don´t see a Ronnie Coleman jumping on rooftops and escaping from the police, maybe a light olympic weightlifter but a guy like Mr Olympia.
 
No one is saying bodybuilders aren't flexible or even good runners. But traversing over small wall crevasses and doing complex parkour/free running in a city definitely means that weight (even if it's highly dense muscle) will be a detriment.

How many free runners do you see that weigh anymore than 200-210 pounds? I've never heard or seen of a 266 muscled out male who'd be able to successfully free run around a city with the nimbleness and prowess as Batman.

That's just the bottom line.
 
Poppycock. My heart rate is a lot faster when I finish a set than when I do cardio. Which means my cardio vascular system is working harder when I lift than when I'm on treadmill or elliptical.

The reason those guys don't do hard cardio is b/c they have so much muscle mass that hard impact on their joints would lead to injury and hinder their weight workouts.

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How many free runners do you see that weigh anymore than 200-210 pounds? I've never heard or seen of a 266 muscled out male who'd be able to successfully free run around a city with the nimbleness and prowess as Batman.

That's just the bottom line.

How many people do you see who weigh more than 200-210 lbs (of muscle) in general? Not many. That's because being really big is a specialised attribute that is mostly used for strength. It takes effort to get that big, and since it contributes nothing to sports like parkour or gymnastics, there is no reason to do so.

Saying that, I have no problem seeing an American Football or Rugby player doing parkour if they really wanted to.

As for running around the city like Batman. Batman is practically superhuman anyway. And it's not like he's especially agile in the movies right now, lugging around in that heavy rubber suit, which is more of a hindrance than an extra 30lbs of muscle will ever be.

But this is all moot because I'm perfectly okay with Batman's size right now.
 
I seem to recall Batman has been stated as being somewhere around 220 lbs by DC Comics. It's kind of a moot point. He's an Olympic level athlete, not an Olympic athlete. And he's not playing sports. He's fighting crime.
 
I'm more about debunking the "slow, clumsy" bodybuilder myth than advocating for a 250 lb Batman. The fact Batman only weighs 220 lbs is one reason why.
 
I think you all forget something important. Something EXTREMELY important.

Batman is a fictional comicbook character.

No matter how he looks or what he does, no matter how realistically he's portrayed, he is still a fictional character. Why the hell do we need to get that deep and compare it with real-life bodybuilders, freerunners, debunk myths and so forth? We will never get a Batman on screen that looks 100% the same as the one from the comics. I mean, never.

I bet most of the writers/artists dealing with Batman have little to zero knowledge about bodybuilding, weightlifting, parkour, agility or whatever. Artist draw Batman as if he's 4000 lbs for aesthetic purposes. It really isn't THAT serous as everyone's making it to be.

Let's get back to Bane, shall we? :)
 
I think you all forget something important. Something EXTREMELY important.

Batman is a fictional comicbook character.

No matter how he looks or what he does, no matter how realistically he's portrayed, he is still a fictional character. Why the hell do we need to get that deep and compare it with real-life bodybuilders, freerunners, debunk myths and so forth? We will never get a Batman on screen that looks 100% the same as the one from the comics. I mean, never.

I bet most of the writers/artists dealing with Batman have little to zero knowledge about bodybuilding, weightlifting, parkour, agility or whatever. Artist draw Batman as if he's 4000 lbs for aesthetic purposes. It really isn't THAT serous as everyone's making it to be.

Let's get back to Bane, shall we? :)

Yes, lets.

I wonder if he steals dat coat off a homeless guy...:oldrazz:
 
JAK®;23000945 said:
How many people do you see who weigh more than 200-210 lbs (of muscle) in general? Not many. That's because being really big is a specialised attribute that is mostly used for strength. It takes effort to get that big, and since it contributes nothing to sports like parkour or gymnastics, there is no reason to do so.

Saying that, I have no problem seeing an American Football or Rugby player doing parkour if they really wanted to.

As for running around the city like Batman. Batman is practically superhuman anyway. And it's not like he's especially agile in the movies right now, lugging around in that heavy rubber suit, which is more of a hindrance than an extra 30lbs of muscle will ever be.

But this is all moot because I'm perfectly okay with Batman's size right now.

The rooftops material would have a problem haha.
 
Weight can be tricky.

You have to take things like bone and muscle density and into account. A mesomorph bodytype can vary - but they can be 180 - 200 pounds even if they never lifted and can put on muscle well if they train properly.

Some can be longer and lankier, which might mean less weight, while another person might have the genetics for thicker, denser muscles. So someone whos 6'2 can be 210 pounds, or 240... even though they have the same bodyfat.

It depends on each individual and genetics.

Im 6'2, and most people are suprised when I say I hover around 250 pounds, they usually guess around 215, or 220. I could loose 10 pounds, but that would still put me at 235 - 40.

Its hard to guess weight especially for people who lift.
 
I'm in the opinion that the bigger the muscles on a guy, in terms of fighting it can be a hinderance as the bigger muscle mass can make a fighter gas and lose energy a lot more so than a leaner fighter. But lets not forget we don't know what the mask is providing Bane with, it could be an endurance increasing drug for all we know?
 
I'm in the opinion that the bigger the muscles on a guy, in terms of fighting it can be a hinderance as the bigger muscle mass can make a fighter gas and lose energy a lot more so than a leaner fighter. But lets not forget we don't know what the mask is providing Bane with, it could be an endurance increasing drug for all we know?

We do know what the mask is providing. Anesthesia.
 
Ok I forgot about the anesthesia, but still my point holds anesthetic would surely dull the feeling of gasing. All im saying is in this film the characters size wouldn't be making him any less efficient as a fighter.
 
not to be an ass but can't you just look at a picture of Hardy and see for yourself?
 
What's the point of that, really? Rag is right, see it for yourself.
 
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