White House Down

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I enjoyed this waay more than Olympus has Fallen. This at least they're having fun with this one. And definitely enjoyed it more than The Heat. I'm sick of McCarthy, I think she's funny but man we have just too much of her in the past few years and she's playing the exact same character in every movie. And I can't stand Sandra Bullock, I don't think she's a good actress, don't think she's funny and she definitely didn't deserve the Oscar she has
 
Pissed off,was hoping to watch this after work this evening but last show is at 8.30pm and I only leave work at 9,oh well there's always tomorrow.
 
24mill opening weekend for this is not good with a 150mill budget.olympus has fallen did the same movie with a lesser budget 70mill.mellissa mcarthy is the it girl right now everything she is in makes money I don't think she is that funny.she is playing the same role in everything to me the funny fat chick.
 
Channing Tatum is still not an action star no matter how much Hollywood tries to shove him down our throats.

21 Jump Street was more of a goofy comedy and Jonah Hill carried more of the weight in that duo (no pun intended). But even in that movie, Tatum did not impress me at all. He had no charisma and he mumbled most of his dialogue.

Hollywood still likes to learn its lessons the hard way.

Olympus Has Fallen was the better movie. Gerard Butler > Channing Tat*YUM*.
 
Tatum is a star but he still hasn't proven that he is an action star. GI JOE did okay but every action based movie he has played in besides that hasn't worked out. WHD domestic numbers are disastrous. Best case it does 75-80mil. Sony is hoping for 250-300mil overseas I'm sure. There is no doubt that WHD was supposed to be Tatum's action hero coming out party, unfortunately the public just rained on it.
 
I said action star ;) .

If anything, GI JOE was going to be his action hero coming out party. That also failed.

Now he'll stick with the sappy chick flicks and Jump Street sequels.
 
ADDING: While the script is all right, it was definitely a let down in that a white house siege just doesn't seem real unless it's rated R. It's almost like PG-13 superhero level action, which is fun and entertaining, but it just doesn't seem to settle quite right with the subject matter all the time. It's fun and popcorn, while the story is hard and traumatic. Personally, that's what I liked about White House Down - people died, there was a sense of urgency, and it was a substantially darker and more serious film.

Going to give it a shot online or TV at some point, but it looks like it hasn't really improved that much or at all since the script. After seeing the darkness and gloom of Olympus Has Fallen and the tone this kind of scenario would have, it was kind of like watching a comedy film of a terrorist act - and that just didn't feel like it gelled.
 
I said action star ;) .

If anything, GI JOE was going to be his action hero coming out party. That also failed.

Now he'll stick with the sappy chick flicks and Jump Street sequels.

Nah he'll be fine. If I remember right you don't like him, but you have to see and realize that he was 3 for 3 last year with The Vow Magic mike, and 21 Jump Street. And that's critically and commercially, This is just one misstep after the great year he had in 2012 and he still has that Bennett Miller film later that could get serious Oscar recognition later this year. And then of course he still has Jupiter Ascending and 22 jump street in 2014.

Tatum isn't hurting and won't be sticking with sappy chick flicks or just 21 Jump Street sequels. He might not do straight forward action films though. But he'll be fine
 
So I saw this, it was basically the comedic version of Olympus has Fallen. There was a lot of laughs either with or at the film but for me I'll stick to Olympus has Fallen.

6/10
 
I think we can all agree that the action hero thing was dealt another blow. Regardless of one's thoughts on his talents, the action hero thing still hasn't happened and Hollywood keeps trying. He will have othet hits of course and maybe on down the line an Oscar nom because Hollywood seems to love him but he has yet to find his Bourne Identity or Speed. That role in an action flick that helps audiences take him seriously in that genre. Some might say Point Break but they would be wrong because Speed was a bigger hit and really launched him in the genre.
 
I saw WHD yesterday. I checked it out in the morning and barely anyone else was there. I was chalking that up to it being a very early morning showing but now that I see this box office I guess it was more than that.

I'm a little surprised because compared to Olympus I thought WHD had more appeal to a broader audience. WHD has a lighter tone and arguably two more popular leads with Tatum and Foxx.

I liked WHD more than I thought I would. The trailer really didn't impress me and my expectations were low. I liked Olympus and was mainly curious to see how WHD would hold up.

I thought it held up well and the tone-which I was cringing a little about going in-helped make this film stand apart from Olympus, even though both films had similar plots.

While I thought Eckhardt (sp) was more presidential, Foxx's president had more guts down the stretch. President Asher gave up those codes without even getting a scratch on his face while President Sawyer inadvertently did so in the middle of a brawl.

Butler was a more action credible hero, but Tatum was more fun. He had good chemistry with Foxx and Joey King. Butler was more of a solitary killing machine.

I liked how the White House was taken in WHD better than in Olympus. But the carnage in Olympus felt larger and was depicted more brutally and graphically. In essence, the stakes felt higher in Olympus.

I don't like one film better than the other. I liked them both. It's unfortunate that WHD is doing so poorly. I thought it was an entertaining action film. Maybe if they had held it back until 2014 it might have done better.
 
Sounds like you are only surprised at the opening because you didn't investigate and had odd assumptions about two old ladies movies that were before my time. How old are you and why don't you keep up with movie trends if you are a geek under the age of 45 years old? :p

The whole "raunchy bro movie" trend is a huge thing right now and now they are giving women a shot to do their own version of those. As a matter of fact, the movie looked like the R rated female starring version of Will Ferrell and Mark Wahlberg's 2010's "The Other Guys," not a Bette Midler or Kate Hudson's mother comedy. Bridesmaids only opened with 26mil, it's legs are what got it the big numbers so how big was that idea before word of mouth took hold? The opening was good but hardly groundbreaking for such a "universal" idea. The legs made the movie the hit it was. Also Melissa McCarthy has become one of the most popular comedy stars in just a few short years after her break out role in Bridesmaids and just had a hit earlier this year, you should at least remember her name because she is a big reason why the movie did 13.6mil yesterday.

The cop comedy The Other Guys, which teamed up two big stars opened with 35.5mil in 2010 and earlier this year Identity Thief starring McCarthy and Bateman opened with 34.5mil. Bateman is a funny guy but he wasn't the main reason for those numbers. (The Change Up anyone?). In 2009, Sandra Bullock starred in The Proposal which opened with 33.6mil. Now I expect that the audiences for all these comedies overlap. All those movies have something in common. Hot stars+pleasing concept+decent marketing and The Heat has those things. Add in 2012 ticket prices and that equals a 35-40mil opening, it equals at least a 35mil opening weekend.

I was a little surprised by the so-so marketing campaign for WHD. It feels like Sony got too cocky about having Tatum and Foxx in their film since the two men were coming off of big hits and the elephant in the room remains OHF which opened with 30mil and made 98mil total. Snow White and the Huntsman did way better than the first Snow White movie, Mirror Mirror, because Mirror Mirror was a completely different genre, had a terrible set of previews and disappointed. Unfortunately for WHD OHF is not in a completely different genre and it over performed in every way possible so the same situation as last year had less of a chance of playing out. And here we are, a 9mil Friday for WHD in comparision to OHF 10mil. WHD will be lucky to do 25mil over the weekend.

I only get my geek on with the box office when it's a movie I want to get a sequel. ;)

I had a whole bunch of stuff to say about why Bridesmaids had legs and about connecting, and about how I was using Goldie and Bette as similar types for the roles in The Heat, which I still am in shock of given how horrid it looked.

However I'm just marveling at your box off science, as the kids would say #evenmoreinluv :hrt: :woot:
 
I only get my geek on with the box office when it's a movie I want to get a sequel. ;)

I had a whole bunch of stuff to say about why Bridesmaids had legs and about connecting, and about how I was using Goldie and Bette as similar types for the roles in The Heat, which I still am in shock of given how horrid it looked.

However I'm just marveling at your box off science, as the kids would say #evenmoreinluv :hrt: :woot:
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Nah he'll be fine. If I remember right you don't like him, but you have to see and realize that he was 3 for 3 last year with The Vow Magic mike, and 21 Jump Street. And that's critically and commercially, This is just one misstep after the great year he had in 2012 and he still has that Bennett Miller film later that could get serious Oscar recognition later this year. And then of course he still has Jupiter Ascending and 22 jump street in 2014.

Tatum isn't hurting and won't be sticking with sappy chick flicks or just 21 Jump Street sequels. He might not do straight forward action films though. But he'll be fine

Sure he'll be fine, but he's going to do less action movies now for sure and more sappy chick flicks.

White House Down doesn't play to his key demographic which is the females.
 
he could never be a match for butler

butler's hairy chest is more man than tatum:o:oldrazz:
 
Sure he'll be fine, but he's going to do less action movies now for sure and more sappy chick flicks.

White House Down doesn't play to his key demographic which is the females.
I actually kinda like Tatum now but he does nothing for me. A lot of my fellow ladies would disagree but that's just me. I'd like to see him do more comedies anyway so I don't mind his failure so far in the action genre.
 
Sure he'll be fine, but he's going to do less action movies now for sure and more sappy chick flicks.

White House Down doesn't play to his key demographic which is the females.

again as i said I dont see him doing more sappy chick flicks because of this.

Im not saying he wont do one again but all his projects coming up so far are dramas, comedies, sci fi, thrillers, and then the Guys and Dolls remake.

With his role choices/roles he's signed up for, it seems like he's trying to break out of the mold of what he was doing for the past couple of years. Same with Matthew McConaghey...or how ever he spells his last name. White House Down was his first misstep.

i am interested what the wachowskis will do with him

Me too
 
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I guess the era of the carbon copy film didnt end in the late 80's or early 90's.Remember all of
those body switching comedies(18 Again,Vice Versa,Like Father ,Like Son ?? UGH!!)
3 Months after the assault and taking of the White House flick Olympus Has Fallen,along
comes White House Down with slight differences and less grit than Olympus Has Fallen.

WHD has an extremely slow start introducing Channing Tatum as John Cale,gunning
for a spot in the Presidents detail of the secret service,with his history loving daughter Joey King as Emily Cale
in tow.Then finally all hell breaks lose and the fun rollercoaster ride begins.
Jamie Foxx as James Sawyer, the President of United States does his best Obama impersonation.
Tatum does his tank top wearing Die Hard best,James Woods chews scenery as if he hasnt eaten in months.
Throw in Maggie Gyllenhaal as Carol Finnerty, a Secret Service agent and Richard Jenkins as Eli Raphelson,
the Speaker of the United States House of Representatives and a few more character actors,that manage to remain
straight faced through the most preposterous moments in the film.

There are a lot of great one liners,action sequences and Tatum and Foxx play well together.
I must admit some moments are quite rousing and applauding.

Some moments are loaded with super cheese and there is a unnecessary turn late in the film's already 2 hour
plus running time that just extends the film to bloated land.

A fun romp but just a little to long.

Scale of 1-10 a 7½
 
I really loved all the villains in this. Classic 80s/90s over the top performances.

Although anytime James Woods was on screen....

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I'm glad this did poorly at the box office. I'm sick of seeing Tatum movies do well. The guy is NOT a good actor.
 
He's not a bad guy though. I think he's aware of the perception. Comedy is more his thing.
 
Oh, I'm not saying he's a bad guy at all. But being a nice guy doesn't equate to acting talent (see: Brandon Routh).
 
But Channing tatum can act.

He's no master thespian. But he has talent it's there 21JS was the movie that showed it.

He may never win an Oscar or be considered the best actor out there. But IMO he is what I want from an action star.

The 2 scenes in Joe of just him and the rock was amazing. It made me hate the fact that these 2 guys are what an action star needs to be and neither have had that action movie.

WHD was an ok film it was fun and silly. As far as tatum as the hero was he was the best thing the movie had going that and James woods.

I also can say tatum would thrive in a hard R action movie the PG-13 rating held him back from great one liners.

All in all I have a mini man crush on tatum and hate the hate he gets. But I can see where it comes from and understand the hate.

It's the action movies he's been in that have made us think he can't pull action off. He sucked he the first joe I will admit that lol
 

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