What's the point of bringing up the perceived "flaw" of not showing Bruce getting back into Gotham again? Really. Just tell me. So that it can be justified that this film is STUPID, a FILM FOR IDIOTS, that it was WRITTEN AND DIRECTED LAZILY BY LAZY PEOPLE THAT HASN'T PUT THEIR HEART INTO IT? We know that the character of Bruce will get back inside Gotham, in one way or another. What would a three-second scene (really?) will add into the entire film?
This film doesn't show a badass Batman that can do a badass kung-fu, badass jump, badass kick, badass spin, quip out a badass one-liner, throw a badass batarang in a badass way, and people who always want to see action every 3 seconds couldn't just have that. Less action, less badassery = worst film ever, therefore the non-stop nitpicking. That's the basic of it really.
That's my point though. People need to stop acting as if them showing how Bruce got in suddenly fixes every major problem the film has; it doesn't.
Can't we just simply accept the story the makers of the film wants to tell us and enjoy it? I am not simply asking it for TDKR, because I've been having this line of thought for other films, so that I can simply enjoy it.
I enjoyed TDKR. I won't lie and say that I wanted to rip my eyes out while watching it (though the ending did do a lot of damage to the Batman fan that lies within me
). I may sound like I despise it but I actually think that it's ok. However, just because I enjoyed something doesn't mean that I will dismiss all the flaws in the film and say that the movie is good.
Can we just simply accept the story the makers of the film want to tell us? Yes. As long as that story fits with the character development, themes, and elements established in the previous 2 movies. My point, as well as the point of others here, is that TDKR
doesn't do that. We believe it ignores and contradicts many things from the previous films, mainly things from TDK.
The Matrix sequels, the Star Wars prequels, these films received non-stop nitpicking years after people originally see them, and the base reason for all the complaints is really just "it wasn't told the way I wanted them told".
....no. Nonononononono. You did NOT just simplify all the problems people have with the prequel trilogy as nitpicks because they didn't tell the story people wanted them to tell.
Never been a big Matrix fan though.
These films are flawed yes, ALL FILMS ARE, but it can be enjoyed, if we just get all preconceived expectations and notions out of our mind and accept the stories. Nolan and company wanted to tell a story about a Batman in his lowest point in his life, in a very weakened state. What's wrong with that? Because he's only doing his Batman thing for a year? Come on, people, it's just a detail. A very minor one. IN THE END a lot of people enjoyed the story that was told. We fans have other Batman stories to turn into, A LOT OF OTHER stories from a MANY VARYING SOURCES. We have television, comic books, games. What difference these films are going to make for these other stories?
Already addressed the bold part. Nothing is wrong with telling the story you want to tell as you respect the essence of the characters and don't ignore/contradict the things established in the previous films. Both things that TDKR didn't do, in my honest opinion.
Bruce only being Batman for one year is not a minor thing. He needs more experience than that and it goes back to what I said before about TDKR contradicting things - both BB and TDK established the notion that he would be Batman for a
long time.
Other people liking the film does not influence my opinion. They are free to like the movie; I am free to not like it. Plus, there are
tons of bad movies that are loved by the GA (i.e. Transformers) but that doesn't make them good. The "guess what? a lot of people like it" argument is never a good argument. Regardless of how good or bad a movie is, that argument is never a valid one.
You're right that TDKR is never going to make major differences to the comics, TV shows, and games we love. But what does that prove? My problems with TDKR have nothing to do with how it affects Batman in other mediums. My problems lie entirely within the film.
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