Apocalypse X-Men: Apocalypse Box Office Prediction Thread - Part 2

[Sithborg]

As compared to Gambit's, what, one issue? Where about all he did was get a skin color change.

Yes, she was briefly a Horseman. But, that doesn't mean it doesn't count.

 

[DavidHaller]

For half a friggin issue. Do your homework X fans. This was not Dark Angel Saga haha.

This was throw a hot girl in the movie to get us suckers into the film and make a horrible display of her powers. Caliban had more character.

oh come on! what has time to do with it? Which horsemen works a long time for Apocalypse? Apocalypse is the dumbest villain in X-Men history. He normally shows up, transforms an X-Men into an horsemen and is defeated two issues later. (very good adaptions in this movie for exactly this!)

the problem is not that Psylocke was an horsemen. The problem is that they did not used her at all or gave her any motivations (+ a ridiculous over-sexualized bikini costume from hell)

 

[def28]

oh come on! what has time to do with it? Which horsemen works a longer time for Apocalypse? Apocalypse is the dumbest villain in X-Men history. He normally shows up, transforms an X-Men and is defeated again. (very good adaptions in this movie for exactly that!)

the problem is not that Psylocke was an horsemen. The problem is that they did not used her at all!

What made the horsemen like Archangel stories awesome is that they had character development with the X-Men. It ****ed them up to see their friends like that. Here they are mute statues with pretty much zero crucial connections. Brings nothing to the table. Nothing. Same old mute villain nonsense, only worse cause this time it's X-Men going on their second round of Simon Kinberg development.

Using the excuse that Betsy was a horseman for 1 comic in any fashion is bs. She was a horsemen for a reason in that one book and it had to do with a relationship that was built upon for quite sometime and had heavy ramifications. She was thrown in here for marketing.

 

[ApophènX]

Apocalypse was a good vilain despite everything seems to see. he is connected to every characters.

He is opposite of Mystique in the role of leader figure, through Storm, and he always take his horsemens where she went.

Magneto often had a christic figure in the X-men and Apocalypse is that and more. Plus Erik just lost his "home", like Apocalypse who sees a world full of "false idols", machins and buildings. He wants to go back to nature and the center of the world. (This is why it is important Erik daughter's is connected to nature, he lost "nature", "home" and wants to get back to it, before super powers and civilizations, as civilizations is a result of the super power of human kind: creation)

Apocalypse incarnate that as well, he can model matter as he wants. He see himself as a god. But he lacks connections and the telepathic habilities wich goes along side with empathy (as Jean and Charles show to both have). He lacks connections, he is alone. Where Charles and his xmen are a family, a "home".

 

[DavidHaller]

What made the horsemen like Archangel stories awesome is that they had character development with the X-Men. It ****ed them up to see their friends like that. Here they are mute statues. Brings nothing to the table. Nothing.

Using the excuse that Betsy was a horseman for 1 comic in any fashion is bs. She was a horsemen for a reason in that one book and it had to do with a relationship that was built upon for quite sometime and had heavy ramifications.

I agree. But it is EXACTLY the same situation in the comic books! Archangel is the only horsemen who ever got an interesting story arc because of his horsemen status and lost of wings. Let's not pretend the comics are more interesting in this regard. Apocalypse is a horrible villain and the only good stories with him are Age of Apocalypse and The Dark Angel Saga. Every other story is utterly garbage and so are normally his horsemen!

 

[RLAAMJR.]

I know the movie will do well on its first day.

 

[Mutant 77]

My guess:

First weekend

150 million dollars Overseas
100 million dollars Domestic

= 250 million dollars WW.

750 should be a lock now.

 

[def28]

I agree. But it is EXACTLY the same situation in the comic books! Archangel is the only horsemen who ever got an interesting story arc because of his horsemen status and lost of wings. Let's not pretend the comics are more interesting in this regard. Apocalypse is a horrible villain and the only good stories with him are Age of Apocalypse and The Dark Angel Saga. Every other story is utterly garbage and so are normally his horsemen!

I'd say pretty much any horsemen in the comics is better then what this film gave us man.

Ichisunmi, Sunfire, Gambit, Polaris whatever. They had character prior or had stonrg motivation. This was all pretty much nothing with questionable motivation coming from a contrived script.

But I agree on AOA and DAS. That's where a filmmaker should draw from.

 

[ripse]

OW my range 70M-90M

Total WW my range 700M-900M

 

[FilmNerdJamie]

Apocalypse isn't hitting $800-900M. Even $700M isn't locked down.

 

[JP]

Wonder what midnights will look like? DoFP did 8m, but that started at 10. XMA started at 7 (my showing was at 6pm!)

 

[GuestStar2004]

Because DOFP is rated so highly and this is rated so low (for some odd reason) yeah its not gonna make as much as it could have if reviews were better

 

[ciscostudent561]

Apocalypse was a good vilain despite everything seems to see. he is connected to every characters.

He is opposite of Mystique in the role of leader figure, through Storm, and he always take his horsemens where she went.

Magneto often had a christic figure in the X-men and Apocalypse is that and more. Plus Erik just lost his "home", like Apocalypse who sees a world full of "false idols", machins and buildings. He wants to go back to nature and the center of the world. (This is why it is important Erik daughter's is connected to nature, he lost "nature", "home" and wants to get back to it, before super powers and civilizations, as civilizations is a result of the super power of human kind: creation)

Apocalypse incarnate that as well, he can model matter as he wants. He see himself as a god. But he lacks connections and the telepathic habilities wich goes along side with empathy (as Jean and Charles show to both have). He lacks connections, he is alone. Where Charles and his xmen are a family, a "home".

Yeah he was definitely a better defined villian Then some are making him out to be. Another Ironic thing about his statement is his whole calling them children, when he's just using them for his own end.

 

[TheNewSlayer]

The word of the mouth is really good about this movie. Regular people don't read reviews.

 

[GuestStar2004]

The word of the mouth is really good about this movie. Regular people don't read reviews.

if thats the case why do alot of badly reviewed films flop? catwomen, fan4stic?

then again well recieved movies fail to like dredd and then there are the transformers movie that get bad reviews but break in so much money that it makes you wonder why and now!

 

[Ludivine]

The word of the mouth is really good about this movie. Regular people don't read reviews.

And I think not everyone read the same reviews. After seeing the movie I posted on Facebook to ignore the bad reviews and just enjoy the movie and I my friends were surprised by my post, saying they have only read good reviews. I guess it depends where you get your reviews. Everything I've read in local newspaper indeed gave it a good score.

 

[TheNewSlayer]

if thats the case why do alot of badly reviewed films flop? catwomen, fan4stic?

then again well recieved movies fail to like dredd and then there are the transformers movie that get bad reviews but break in so much money that it makes you wonder why and now!

Thats not actually true mate.

All Transformers movie made a lot money at the box office and all of them had horrible RT.

Look: http://www.rottentomatoes.com/search/?search=transfor

Transformers 1 - RT rotten 57% - 700m ww

Transformers 2 - RT rotten 19% - 836m ww

Transformers 3 - RT rotten 35% - 1b123m ww

Transformers 4 - RT rotten 18% - 1b104m ww

See my point? Transformers 3 made 1 billion and had 35% RT.

 

[TheNewSlayer]

And I think not everyone read the same reviews. After seeing the movie I posted on Facebook to ignore the bad reviews and just enjoy the movie and I my friends were surprised by my post, saying they have only read good reviews. I guess it depends where you get your reviews. Everything I've read in local newspaper indeed gave it a good score.

Exactly my local paper also said only nice things about the movie.

 

[Lip]

I'd say pretty much any horsemen in the comics is better then what this film gave us man.

Ichisunmi, Sunfire, Gambit, Polaris whatever. They had character prior or had stonrg motivation. This was all pretty much nothing with questionable motivation coming from a contrived script.

One of the things that got me excited about Apocalypse is that they announced he would be a eloquent leader with the power of persuasion, not brainwash.

Now I think it would've been much better if he had just brainwashed the horsemen instead of... what we saw.

 

[def28]

Completely agree. I think I was more worried that such characters wouldn't have anything to say.

But after seeing the film I thought their motivation for joining Apocalypse and destroying the world was so horribly brought to character that they needed to be forced to a stronger point. I have no idea why they thought that aspect worked. There's literally no rational character development or reasoning for ending millions of lives for the horsemen.

 

[Sithborg]

I can definitely see it being a crowd pleaser, though.

 

[Samarus]

OW my range 70M-90M

Total WW my range 700M-900M

If this opens with 70M -90M not even 700M ww is locked.

 

[danoyse]

I saw it at 7 last night and it was pretty much sold out...but that's typical fan attendance on opening night, so it's not a real indicator of anything. Curious how it plays out over the weekend.

I'm seeing it again tomorrow. I'm not going straight from work (unlike last night), so at least this time I can wear my Wolverine sneakers.

 

[BeholdMe]

Yeah they aren't gonna reboot. This isn't like Spider-Man or Fantastic Four. Fox would probably make smaller films with smaller budget and they still have Deadpool 2. Like if X-Men: Apocalypse only cost Fox $178 million to make then thats quite cheap (though IMO that is just part of their damage control and that the film cost more). Though Apocalypse is shaping up to be THE disappointment of Marvel films this year.

2014: The Amazing Spider-Man 2
2015: Fant4stic
2016: X-Men: Apocalypse

God, I pray to God that Wolverine 3 will be amazing and that it will be the greatest Wolverine film evah! Okay!

It was not as bad as Fantastic 4 in the slightest you are really reaching with that comment. By no means is it a flop or failure so your list is obsolete.

 

[Krak66]

It was not as bad as Fantastic 4 in the slightest you are really reaching with that comment. By no means is it a flop or failure so your list is obsolete.

He is just a fanboy. He complains in every thread here t: