Apocalypse X-Men: Apocalypse Box Office Prediction Thread - Part 3

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Double B said:
Here's the thing, the franchise only started again in 2011 after a lengthy gap after TLS. If the audience is bored already, something is wrong. A long break should not be needed a mere three movies into the rebirthed franchise.
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This is true.

I don't think there is fatigue setting in for CBMs overall, but there is a definite "been there/done that" situation setting in with this franchise. I hate to say it but...this franchise is having a hard time keeping up with its competitors. The way I see it, there are only two ways to totally reinvigorate X-Men to make it a viable player again:

1.) Take a break for a few years, come back with the new X-Men (as foreshadowed in XA) with a new director (Joss Whedon please) and zero influence from Kinberg and Singer.

Or...

2.) Develop a situation similar to Sony's Spider-Man where Marvel plays a bigger role in influencing the X-Universe and vise versa--which would automatically call for a recasting of all characters under the direction of Kevin Feige. Cyclops, Jean, Storm, Wolverine, Rogue, Beast, Gambit, Ice Man--everyone's back. This brings the X-Men into the current day and time frame, not the 90s crap they're talking about doing next. That way FOX still has ownership/distribution rights but the creative process is governed by Marvel which would naturally rally the fanbase and the general audiences.
 
JEM said:
The thing is Fox have a lot of option now and it is a big difference. With Wolverine 3, Deadpool 2, New Mutant and Gambit, they can make differents things with the franchise before to go with another X Men film.

For exemple, Shipp and Mccavoy in New Mutant could be a good thing to built X-Men universe ( if the movie is still in past). IMO, X-Men film in 2019 is a good date.
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since original scooper of xavier and storm in new mutants now says he doesn't know if Mcavoy will be back who knows when that film takes place.

Next X-men film probally won't be coming till july 2020.that fits the wait between OT and FC trilogys and between 2017-19 they have wolverine solo
film,Gambit,Deadpool sequel,New Mutants,and X-force.
 
marvelrobbins said:
Singer isn't going to take a break.he is gone now.besides you can't do film people want which is more like MCU or deadpool and ever have another Singer X-men film.That would be like having singer do deadpool sequel.bad idea.
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No one is talking about Singer X-Men films, just regular flagship X-Men films.
 
Leo Zelinsky said:
I just want The X-Men to be The X-Men

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There comes a time 'twixt life and death
When all men stop to catch their breath
We ask the stars "why"? We question our lot
The heavens open wide and say "why not"? ~Beast
 
Lower budgets for these films will help out a lot and least with the profit being made plus there still a lot of money to be made from this franchise.
 
marvelrobbins said:
Singer X-men films are flagship X-men films.
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Not anymore.

2003's X2: X-Men United opened with $85 million (much more today if you account for inflation)
2006's X-Men: The Last Stand opened with $102 million (again, unadjusted for inflation)
2014's X-Men: Days Of Future Past opened with $110 million.

It is now 2016 and this X-Men: Apocalypse movie is struggling to debut with $65 million. What. The. Hell. :dry: This is only TEN MILLION DOLLARS higher than the first X-Men film's opening in 2000. In fact, when you adjust that $55 million opening it's actually comparable. :whatever:

Things have come full circle. Singer's franchise is no longer a "flagship' financially with numbers like that. This is a new era. Time for change.
 
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Tymminator said:
There comes a time 'twixt life and death
When all men stop to catch their breath
We ask the stars "why"? We question our lot
The heavens open wide and say "why not"? ~Beast
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Can Beast finally get over freaking Mystique... There are other beautiful mutants that he actually freaking dated in the comic's!!!


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Leo Zelinsky said:
Can you imagine a scene in the movie with even 10% of the heart & drama from every damn character instead of one or two

[YT]https://youtu.be/Y_mhRixhu_M?t=2m22s[/YT]
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Yup, my personal favorite moment is from the last 10 secs of this scene

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"Did you think I would let you die alone Xavier" - Magneto

The true heart of the Prof X and Magneto's relationship.
 
Fist of Khonshu said:
Even one would help, especially if it can piggyback a second character ala Black Widow in Iron Man 2.
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Those spinoffs would do a whole a lot of good if they have one or two X-Men appear. Storm appearing in New Mutants could be good if handled correctly.
 
Lightning Strykez! said:
This is true.

I don't think there is fatigue setting in for CBMs overall, but there is a definite "been there/done that" situation setting in with this franchise. I hate to say it but...this franchise is having a hard time keeping up with its competitors. The way I see it, there are only two ways to totally reinvigorate X-Men to make it a viable player again:

1.) Take a break for a few years, come back with the new X-Men (as foreshadowed in XA) with a new director (Joss Whedon please) and zero influence from Kinberg and Singer.

Or...

2.) Develop a situation similar to Sony's Spider-Man where Marvel plays a bigger role in influencing the X-Universe and vise versa--which would automatically call for a recasting of all characters under the direction of Kevin Feige. Cyclops, Jean, Storm, Wolverine, Rogue, Beast, Gambit, Ice Man--everyone's back. This brings the X-Men into the current day and time frame, not the 90s crap they're talking about doing next. That way FOX still has ownership/distribution rights but the creative process is governed by Marvel which would naturally rally the fanbase and the general audiences.
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Or Focus on other areas of the Universe, which is what they will probably do.

Deadpool 2
Gambit
X-Force
New Mutants

Begin to build past the current set of characters. I will also put these films into pre-production:

Star Jammers
Excalibur
Alpha Flight

X-Men Universe is more than just Wolverine, Cyclopes, Jean, Magneto, and Storm.
 
Silver Surfer said:
Yup, my personal favorite moment is from the last 10 secs of this scene

[YT]Y_mhRixhu_M?t=2m18s[/YT]

"Did you think I would let you die alone Xavier" - Magneto

The true heart of the Prof X and Magneto's relationship.
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If you take Magneto out of the next film except for a ending like that where Xavier needs him most the crowd will go insane.


Make The X-Men the The X-Men. And make the support characters the support characters!
 
Leo Zelinsky said:
Can Beast finally get over freaking Mystique... There are other beautiful mutants that he actually freaking dated in the comic's!!!
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Yeah but this is not the comics, did bruce banner and black widow date in the comics?
 
Lightning Strykez! said:
LMAO.

No. But who would want to see him? :whatever: :funny:
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I do! Hate to say I told you so but I said this thing would not make more than $600M WW. And it's not that I hate Fox or Xmen or anything like that. It's just this franchise almost seems stale and they have no sense of direction. None! I just wanted to tell him hi. :sly:
 
Well these are the dates for the future Marvel films:

March 2017 - The Wolverine
October 2017 - Untitled (Probably Gambit)
March 2018 - Untitled (Probably New Mutants)
June 2018 - Untitled (Probably Deadpool 2)

X-Force will most likely be released in 2019.
 
sleekstereo said:
Or Focus on other areas of the Universe, which is what they will probably do.

Deadpool 2
Gambit
X-Force
New Mutants

Begin to build past the current set of characters. I will also put these films into pre-production:

Star Jammers
Excalibur
Alpha Flight

X-Men Universe is more than just Wolverine, Cyclopes, Jean, Magneto, and Storm.
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Agreed. Although to be fair, only three of the mutants you've mentioned above have truly been fleshed out by Singer. Scott and Storm are still in need of development (but I'll admit XA was a great first step in the right direction for Scott--but Storm was wasted yet again...[blackout]how they managed to actually base the film in Egypt and NOT do an origin story for Ororo is just beyond criminal and dumb[/blackout]).
 
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