Apocalypse X-Men: Apocalypse Box Office Prediction Thread - Part 3

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Iceman said:
If it weren't for Deadpool making crazy money Fox would be having second thoughts about this franchise. With a great film like DoFP the receipts are modest and with young new characters in FC & Apocalypse they are abysmal. He has to appear in X-Force now.
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Deadpool was always going to be In X-force once deapool hit it big.deadpool
is what brought X-force back after fox scraped previous script for apocalypse.
 
Angryfantasyfan said:
I'm hoping Josh Boone delivers another hit with New Mutants.


"sources familiar with the project say the film will be based on the 1980s run of the Marvel comic, and that tonally it will be—”John Hughes meets Stephen King”—leaning towards horror and the supernatural."
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Sounds like a good idea. Also sounds like DC being outdone to something else they have been developing for years. :funny:
 
Iceman said:
If it weren't for Deadpool making crazy money Fox would be having second thoughts about this franchise. With a great film like DoFP the receipts are modest and with young new characters in FC & Apocalypse they are abysmal. He has to appear in X-Force now.
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No idea how you fix it though. Like you said DoFP was great and that only got them to 740 million and this film gets a mixed to negative response and might not hit 180 million domestically.
 
Honestly? I think this will be lucky to hit 150M domestically.
 
Budgets need to be kept under control. Unless 750M+ is feasible, it's too risky to have a 200M+ blockbuster. FOX seems to think the X-Men brand is stronger than it is. There's too much competition nowadays for them to keep making the movies the way they always have.
 
Had this pegged at $80-$90M for the 4 day, which was reasonable and perfectly fine. Never was this going to topple (let alone match) Days of Future Past's 4 day, or domestic gross.. or worldwide gross and in their case two years ago it also fell below expectations stateside.

I love them but I'll say it. The First Class cast was never hot with the masses (Remember how so many swore it would break out to $200M+ box-office back in 2011? I do.. and I specifically remember saying it would be the lowest-grossing installment). So much so their own sequel (not unlike what happened to the Man of Steel sequel) was morphed into Days of Future Past to integrate the "old favorites" back instead. Gave the example a few days ago that going back to the First Class cast would be like returning to the Tokyo Drift cast after Fast & Furious 4.

Thing is keep in mind is this. The Wolverine remains the lowest grossing installment in the franchise domestically. At yet Fox was beyond happy with its overseas performance and OKed a third film. So anyone proclaiming "THAT'S IT! IT'S OVER! REBOOT TIME!" needs to sit in the corner for awhile.

They've been thinking big picture ever since then, and if this does $500-$600M worldwide (as I expected), then you're still "stuck" with this.
 
The bad reviews were out weeks before the film came out. I bet you that Fox doesn't allow that to happen again. Again there was a reason that WB hid BvS from critics. That was a smart move. Ending the embargo early surely effected Apocalypse's box office.
 
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DarthSkywalker said:
Not talking quality here. That I agree with. I am talking from a practical POV. Which is exactly why I don't see the old cast returning. Maybe they will decide on a one off, but that is all it would be. They aren't going to make X-Men flicks with the majority of the cast in their late 40s, early 50s.
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I know. I do think that the dynamics of a team movie is a different that adding a popular teammate is a bit different than randomly having two popular heroes together.

DarthSkywalker said:
Two years in a row it has been rather horrible.
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I am convinced LFL is seriously considering leaving May alone. I think Rogue One will be the big test on that.
 
Zero_Effect said:
No idea how you fix it though. Like you said DoFP was great and that only got them to 740 million and this film gets a mixed to negative response and might not hit 180 million domestically.
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You 'fix' them by giving the X-men, not prof X, Magneto, and Lawrence, but the actual X-men, character, history, camaderie, team dynamics and a sense of them being a family.

You know, like Guardians of the Galaxy.
 
It is only natural after seven films for the box office returns to be lower.
 
Some people are really invested in proving that X-Men Apocalypse failed.

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This guys says that it will make a domestic total of 170m and that this number doesnt even beat opening weekend of BvS and CACW, plus Deadpool made more than this in 6 days.

I don't get all this hate, the movie and the actors were so good.

Maybe people just hate Singer and Kinberg and just transfer their hate to the x-men movies.
 
psylockolussus said:
Thats what people said after X3. Then DOFP happened.

And with Apocalypse's underperforming, it doesn't seem like the GA are THAT willing to support X-Men with newer cast members. It didn't happen with First Class and its certainly not happening here again.
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Yes,the people loves the OT
 
Tacit Ronin said:
You 'fix' them by giving the X-men, not prof X, Magneto, and Lawrence, but the actual X-men, character, history, camaderie, team dynamics and a sense of them being a family.

You know, like Guardians of the Galaxy.
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Exactly. Make the focus the X-Men.
 
StormC said:
Budgets need to be kept under control. Unless 750M+ is feasible, it's too risky to have a 200M+ blockbuster. FOX seems to think the X-Men brand is stronger than it is. There's too much competition nowadays for them to keep making the movies the way they always have.
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The main problem was the competition this year.

X-Men had to face Captain America, Alice, Warcraft (in some countries already released), among many other good movies out there.

Plus Singer doesn't receive the full support of the comic book community or even x-men community cause he doesn't listen to them and isn't faithful to the source material. Snyder this year had the same problem.

16 later since first x-men movie ans Singer refuses to give characters costumes.
 
Mysteryman said:
It is only natural after seven films for the box office returns to be lower.
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Tacit Ronin said:
The film doesn't look appealing at all if you already aren't a fan. Try watching the trailers without your investment on the property, try watching it objectively and see how cheap and low rent it looks.

This franchise feels like it's frozen in the early 00's.
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I AM a fan, and it doesn't look appealing to me either
 
Sithborg said:
I am convinced LFL is seriously considering leaving May alone. I think Rogue One will be the big test on that.
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Do you think it is the date? I don't know if it is that, or the movies. People just don't seem to care for them.
 
FilmNerdJamie said:
Had this pegged at $80-$90M for the 4 day, which was reasonable and perfectly fine. Never was this going to topple (let alone match) Days of Future Past's 4 day, or domestic gross.. or worldwide gross and in their case two years ago it also fell below expectations stateside.

I love them but I'll say it. The First Class cast was never hot with the masses (Remember how so many swore it would break out to $200M+ box-office back in 2011? I do.. and I specifically remember saying it would be the lowest-grossing installment). So much so their own sequel (not unlike what happened to the Man of Steel sequel) was morphed into Days of Future Past to integrate the "old favorites" back instead. Gave the example a few days ago that going back to the First Class cast would be like returning to the Tokyo Drift cast after Fast & Furious 4.

Thing is keep in mind is this. The Wolverine remains the lowest grossing installment in the franchise domestically. At yet Fox was beyond happy with its overseas performance and OKed a third film. So anyone proclaiming "THAT'S IT! IT'S OVER! REBOOT TIME!" needs to sit in the corner for awhile.

They've been thinking big picture ever since then, and if this does $500-$600M worldwide (as I expected), then you're still "stuck" with this.
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Thing is it won't go 80 million for 4 day.best projection is 77 milliong for 4 day while other have it as 74 million for 4 day.next weekend it will drop to 25 to 30 million.600 Million WW Is looking too optimstic.

The wolverine was badly promated.It did great business on back of hugh Jackman as wolverine popularty alone.the film cost 117 to 120 million.If fox is telling truth APocalypse cost 178 million.

I agree with fast and furious analagy.

Bryan Singer Is defently gone now.as is jennifer Lawrence.the biggest worry on future of films is simon Kinberg will still be around.and worry about tone
of films.will they lose what made X-men,X-men to try to replicate deadpool.
or be more like avengers.Fox likely is going to have all X related films with
lower budgets.

I can defently imagine Fox trying to throw money at jackman to try to get him to come back now.if not as I said in past a recasting of wolverine is
defently In the cards.
 
TheNewSlayer said:
The main problem was the competition this year.

X-Men had to face Captain America, Alice, Warcraft (in some countries already released), among many other good movies out there.

Plus Singer doesn't receive the full support of the comic book community or even x-men community cause he doesn't listen to them and isn't faithful to the source material. Snyder this year had the same problem.

16 later since first x-men movie ans Singer refuses to give characters costumes.
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they got them at end of film so that's hardly refusing to do it.
 
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