Apocalypse X-Men: Apocalypse Box Office Prediction Thread - Part 5

[Tymminator]

Here we go again ...

Yeah, but I can't take it seriously.

 

[Tymminator]

lol he does NOT lack imagination. he only lacks the things you are particularly looking for in a blockbuster summer movie.

Let's not pretend that the Avenger's movies have done anything creative or imaginative. They are medicore Disney movies at best which make money. That's the only thing which gives these movies any relevancy besides the fact that the produced a shared universe. but most of these Disney movies suffer because of this 'shared universe idea'.

"Civil War" is clearly not better than "Days of Future Past"!

Nicely put, but all pretty much your opinion, which you are obviously entitled to have.

cinema studios surely don't copy them for their creativity! lol that's hilarious! they are copying them because they are dull shallow mainstream ******** and sell tickets! I enjoyed Civil War a lot. But please let's not pretend this movie did anything special what Singer hasn't done before. It was a totally fine action movie for a shallow mass audience. Nothing more!

Marvel formular: cocky white males save the world (+ Black Panther for a change)

Singer's action scenes on the other hand are timeless! Nightcrawler's White House scene and Quicksilver's Kitchen Scene **** by far on everything Disney has done with the Avengers!

I would even argue that the Russo Brothers shifted the overall tone of the Marvel movies again back to quite a realistic direction similar to what Singer did with the X-Men.

Nightcralwer's scene was cool, true. Quicksilver's was not any type of Singer original. Over the Hedge did the exact same concept 9 years previous.

That said and again you opinion that the are better than anything on Avengers, and again you are entitled to it.

You want to call it mindless, where to me telling the same story several times is pretty mindless (Apocalypse) then that's your right.

I didn't hate Apocalypse, and I will buy the Bluray, but in my personal opinion, they made nothing new to see there. I don't think it quite deserves the trashing it's getting from the critics and that somewhat surprises me, but at the same time I know this is not the case that this movie is so excellent and advanced that people are just not "getting it", cause they got it, a decade ago and several times after that in previous X-Men movies.

You can go get a bunch of friends on here who may agree with you, and I could get a bunch as well, which is a waste of time.

It's cool if you don't like Avengers, its totally your right, but if you want to believe it made no impact and people are not looking into it to emulate it, you are fooling yourself.

Now the subject is the Box Office.

Anyone able to see how well its doing in the UK?

 

[Sithborg]

I haven't seen and updated total for the UK, but I'm going to guess around $21 mil.

And clearly, whatever the next X-men film will be, they will try to schedule it away from Warcraft in China. Such a pity it's run could be cut short because of that.

 

[Tymminator]

I haven't seen and updated total for the UK, but I'm going to guess around $21 mil.

And clearly, whatever the next X-men film will be, they will try to schedule it away from Warcraft in China. Such a pity it's run could be cut short because of that.

Thanks! How about Australia?

 

[Knight_SV]

Nicely put, but all pretty much your opinion, which you are obviously entitled to have.






Nightcralwer's scene was cool, true. Quicksilver's was not any type of Singer original. Over the Hedge did the exact same concept 9 years previous.

That said and again you opinion that the are better than anything on Avengers, and again you are entitled to it.

You want to call it mindless, where to me telling the same story several times is pretty mindless (Apocalypse) then that's your right.

I didn't hate Apocalypse, and I will by the Bluray, but in my personal opinion, they made nothing new to see there. I don't think it quite deserves the trashing it's getting from the critics and that somewhat surprises me, but at the same time I know this is not the case that this movie is so excellent and advanced that people are just not "getting it", cause they got it, a decade ago and several times after that in previous X-Men movies.

You can go get a bunch of friends on here who may agree with you, and I could get a bunch as well, which is a waste of time.

It's cool if you don't like Avengers, its totally your right, but if you want to believe it made no impact and people are not looking into it to emulate it, you are fooling yourself.

Now the subject is the Box Office.

Anyone able to see how well its doing in the UK?

DavidHaller just seems to coming back from BvS board and follow their denial example there

 

[JEM]

Exactly, XA had big opening and good WOM, it should have made between 150-180 million in China. Very bad move by Fox.

 

[Sithborg]

Thanks! How about Australia?

Australia is at around $9 mil.

 

[Tymminator]

thanks!

 

[Sithborg]

Exactly, XA had big opening and good WOM, it should have made between 150-180 million in China. Very bad move by Fox.

Too be fair, Fox doesn't have complete control on when they can release a film in China.

 

[Tymminator]

Yeah, doesn't China pretty much control all of that on it's own?

 

[Sithborg]

I imagine the release date is something that can be negotiated around. WB was able to get the simultaneous release for BvS afterall.

 

[Tymminator]

Very true.

 

[BeholdMe]

I'm hoping for at least a 600 million worldwide for this film. I didn't think it would do so well in China now imagine if they had Blink back or actually gave Jubilee a substantially more screentime. This movie did some things right but dropped the ball horribly with others. What is the total WW Box office by the way?

 

[Sithborg]

I'm hoping for at least a 600 million worldwide for this film. I didn't think it would do so well in China now imagine if they had Blink back or actually gave Jubilee a substantially more screentime. This movie did some things right but dropped the ball horribly with others. What is the total WW Box office by the way?

Lana is Vietnamese, not Chinese. A bit of an important distinction in that area of the world (especially between Japanese and Chinese, who hate each other).

Without a big Chinese star, Apocalypse was looking to have a great increase compared to DOFP. It looks like the first Mon could be only slightly behind CW's first Mon. If Warcraft doesn't cause a BvS type collapse, it will definitely make over $100 mil. If it had a run like DOFP's we would've been looking at over $150 mil. But we will see. It is sounding like Apocalypse is getting good WOM and could remain strong even with losing half it's screens Wed.

 

[Tymminator]

I just read somewhere that it actually didn't do that bad in China this past weekend.

 

[Sithborg]

I just read somewhere that it actually didn't do that bad in China this past weekend.

It did great. It did $59 vs DOFP's $39 mil. Which is even better, because that 39 mil is about 37 in current exchange rate. And the Mon was very strong, with a strong $7 mil. If Warcraft wasn't coming Wed, it would possibly be a great run.

 

[Leo Zelinsky]

Lana is Vietnamese, not Chinese.

But she's still playing a Chinese-American character

 

[danoyse]

But I firmly believe that GA loves the OT, or at the very least they are really put off by not being able to make heads or tails of continuity (specially with Mystique)

I dunno. I mean, X1 is nearly 20 years old. The people who were young when it came out, would be nostalgic for it, etc are, by and large, aged out of that coveted 16-30 demographic. A new generation makes up the prime movie going audience and I think First Class is their new norm.

Honestly, I don’t think the FC trilogy cast, good as they were, ever caught on with audiences the way the original cast did. When I went to the early screening for DOFP, the biggest cheer happened when Cyclops showed up at the end. Same with the end credit scene after The Wolverine. And the biggest complaint I heard about DOFP was that the original cast wasn’t in it enough.

Hell, the second time I saw XMA, our crowd cheered when Wolverine showed up.

I’m not convinced they would make MCU money if they did another film with the original cast, but I do think there would still have been an audience for it if they had tried.

 

[BeholdMe]

Lana is Vietnamese, not Chinese. A bit of an important distinction in that area of the world (especially between Japanese and Chinese, who hate each other).

Without a big Chinese star, Apocalypse was looking to have a great increase compared to DOFP. It looks like the first Mon could be only slightly behind CW's first Mon. If Warcraft doesn't cause a BvS type collapse, it will definitely make over $100 mil. If it had a run like DOFP's we would've been looking at over $150 mil. But we will see. It is sounding like Apocalypse is getting good WOM and could remain strong even with losing half it's screens Wed.

I was literally speaking of the character Jubilee not Lana lol, I was saying if they had her kicking butt maybe it could've helped a bit more. Overall though I'm satisfied with the numbers in China. Besides the end battle was rather quick anyway.

I do feel the OT has that old nostalgia feel to it and if they would've continued with that after DOFP it would've been a different income rather then introducing a new young cast only to go back to them it's more like the ship has sailed now. Of course people would cheer when Wolverine appeared he was like 1/3 of the best known people of the OT. Right now we have 3-4 characters in the FC trilogy that are really clicking with audiences as well so it's no different at all. If they give characters like Cyclops,Nightcrawler and Storm development there will be no questions and it will resonate very well since that's what some people actually want. People rely to much power in the OT when we only have a few developed characters in that as well most of the same ones from the FC minus Mystique.

 

[superweirdo87]

I think the original cast probably has a bigger fanbase and may be better liked among the general audience. I think the general audience likes the OT, but I don't know about love. The Cinema Score and legs don't clearly point in that direction. It is not clear may reflect Logan. And I don't know how invested casual fans and the general audience are in maintaining the original trilogy. XMOFP basically retconned X3, and it got an A Cinema Score, and legs similar to or slightly better than X2/X3. In fairness, those movies do better when considering ticket price, but theatrical attendance has also declined and moviegoers have more options. WOM was similar to or stronger than X2 and X3 in the original trilogy, even though the movie outright changed it.

 

[Frankeh]

Mediocre/bad/unwanted sequels are underperforming/dissappointing this year. Turtles, Alice, X-Men, Huntsman, BvS, Allegiant.

This year moviegoers have put their money where their mouth is. I can only hope this brings the creative shakeup the franchise needs.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/hollywoods-new-problem-sequels-moviegoers-899765

"However, 2016 has proven to be a very tough battleground, and the landscape has been littered with a series of sequels that have come up short, and thus call into question the entire notion of the inherent appeal of non-original, franchise-based content."

 

[BeholdMe]

I think the original cast probably has a bigger fanbase and may be better liked among the general audience. I think the general audience likes the OT, but I don't know about love. The Cinema Score and legs don't clearly point in that direction. It is not clear may reflect Logan. And I don't know how invested casual fans and the general audience are in maintaining the original trilogy. XMOFP basically retconned X3, and it got an A Cinema Score, and legs similar to or slightly better than X2/X3. In fairness, those movies do better when considering ticket price, but theatrical attendance has also declined and moviegoers have more options. WOM was similar to or stronger than X2 and X3 in the original trilogy, even though the movie outright changed it.

I agree with this all of this actually.

 

[BeholdMe]

Mediocre/bad/unwanted sequels are underperforming/dissappointing this year. Turtles, Alice, X-Men, Huntsman, BvS, Allegiant.

This year moviegoers have put their money where their mouth is. I can only hope this brings the creative shakeup the franchise needs.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/hollywoods-new-problem-sequels-moviegoers-899765

Alice is still doing bad after its debut?

 

[iacobusleo]

Honestly, I don’t think the FC trilogy cast, good as they were, ever caught on with audiences the way the original cast did. When I went to the early screening for DOFP, the biggest cheer happened when Cyclops showed up at the end. Same with the end credit scene after The Wolverine. And the biggest complaint I heard about DOFP was that the original cast wasn’t in it enough.

That's not at all true for my age group in my experience (the early 20s). Of the OT, only Hugh Jackman is popular among my friends. One even said if they had a movie with the OT they wouldn't want to watch it. They are watching these movies largely because of Fassbender, Lawrence, Sophie Turner and Evan Peters, and for one friend in particular, Lucas Till.

Though, I'm not American so maybe tastes are different overseas, particularly since X-Men is growing in Asia?

 

[Frankeh]

Alice is still doing bad after its debut?

Report from yesterday:

Finishing fourth was last weekend's other new "big" release, that being Disney's Alice Through the Looking Glass, which already suffered a disastrous opening weekend and didn't fair much better this weekend, dropping 60% for an estimated $10.69 million. The film did add an additional $42 million internationally this weekend, resulting in a global cume of just over $176 million. From a domestic perspective, it's beginning to look as if the sequel may have a hard time matching the $85 million 2010's Alice in Wonderland made in its first two days.