Apocalypse X-Men Apocalypse News and Discussion - Part 1

[FilmNerdJamie]

They won't kill Erik specifically because it will stop them from using McKellen again.

 

[Herolee10]

They won't kill Erik specifically because it will stop them from using McKellen again.

I don't know...I mean, McKellen isn't getting any younger and by the time FOX decides to do another X-Men film again with the original cast, McKellen may not either be with us or will be too old to bring the same level of energy that he normally brought when playing this role.

I think Christopher Lee is older than Ian, and the only thing that he could probably handle when filming his role as Saruman in the Hobbit films was probably just walking and sitting down for his scenes, while giving out his dialogue. Heck, he couldn't fly out to the location where the other actors were at due to his age so they had to Green Screen him in for the first Hobbit film.

 

[GuestStar2004]

do they kill of the character so they can't use him again for anymore movies whether its fassbender or mckellen

 

[magneto23]

They won't kill Erik specifically because it will stop them from using McKellen again.

Yeah forget about that other guy. Fassbender his name? Its not like anyone would want to see more of his magneto.

 

[Herolee10]

do they kill of the character so they can't use him again for anymore movies whether its fassbender or mckellen

In most cases no, but I was just referring to Ian's portrayal of the character and unlike most cases, he's played the character for quite a long while. It would be somewhat jarring, to say the least, to see everyone else from the main cast return (or mostly everyone else) with the exception of Magneto being played by a different elderly actor who probably wouldn't be able to recreate the same level/type of movie magic when it comes to his interactions with Patrick's Charles.

 

[Mr.M]

Honestly, after having 3 films where Magneto served as the antagonist/villain for the finale...I really don't want to spend yet another film going through that same process.

There comes a time where something gets really old and while it may work for the comics, I don't think it would for the films.

So either kill him or reform him.

I think we are seeing a lot of the same problems with the Spidey trilogies. They keep rehashing the same themes, "Great power/great responsibility. One's I love will be the ones who pay." At some point, simply changing the names of the villains or introducing new characters isn't going to make things fresh enough. I think it was fresh to explore a deeper side of the Xavier/Lensherr dynamic. I also think throwing in the Mystique love triangle was very provocative as well. But as you said, it's time for a paradigm shift in this franchise, one that moves away from the human/mutant war and the Yin/Yang of Xavier/Magneto.

 

[marvelrobbins]

Magneto Is still greatest enemy of the X-Men.Since there wasn't really a X-Men as we know It In FC or DOFP we haven't really seen Magneto VS X-Men since the time travel "Reboot"

The only real relvence the non-FC films have now is to provide some backstory to world and Characters In future with Sentinles In DOFP however as films go on they will be less and less Important.

The producers said Magneto and Mystique would realign In Apocalypse but what will that mean.Nightcrawler being In Apocalypse as well as changing wolverine's back story continue distancing films from best film of original Trilogy-X2.

Apocalypse does not lead Into events of trilogy.Never using Magneto as villain would be like never using Lex luthor In DC films again.

The only way most likely for Ian Mckellen to return Is if they do a film with Original cast only In 2018 or 2019.Otherwise Michael fassbender will be only magneto In series for future.Even if they would have a epilogue at end of Apocalypse In new future with wolverine,Xavier,and possibly others unlikely Mckellen would be In it since he wasn't In ending of DOFP.Inless there Is another film with original Cast only Mckellen Is the major Actor from OT that has now kind of been erased from series with Time travel "Reboot"
most of others were In new ending of DOFP and Rebecca Romijn had cameo In FC which remains "Canon"

Since Apocalypse Is their version of Age of APocalypse they would have done the best and most popular Apocalypse story In films.

 

[Mr.M]

I think it's time McKellan and Stewart ride off into the sunset. Wouldn't mind seeing Captain Picard return from the future in another Trek movie though but that's even more wishful thinking. Now that McAvoy's Xavier is providing the epilogue voice overs, I think the torch has been passed.

 

[Hamill-Joker]

Just have Magneto running Genosha for a while, he doesn't need to be in direct conflict with the X-Men. No need to kill him, but have him doing stuff off-screen.

I could see them having the UN cede Genosha to Magneto between DOFP and Apocalypse, or after Apocalypse.

 

[ciscostudent561]

I could see them having the UN cede Genosha to Magneto between DOFP and Apocalypse, or after Apocalypse.

hahahhaahahahhaah! Magneto dropped a stadium around the white house and threatnened the life of the President among other powerful US Leaders. He's public any number one. This is after being convicted of assassinating another president.... LOL Magneto's in hiding at best.

 

[Hamill-Joker]

hahahhaahahahhaah! Magneto dropped a stadium around the white house and threatnened the life of the President among other powerful US Leaders. He's public any number one. This is after being convicted of assassinating another president.... LOL Magneto's in hiding at best.

Ten years is a long time. Who knows what has happened during that time. They may have done it just to appease him or some countries may have wanted to try and rid themselves of their mutant populations.

It could have happened during the Ford or Carter administration.

Perceptions of public figures change over time. A person may appear as a terrorist during one period of time and be seen as a freedom fighter at later time.

 

[Duran Man]

Ten years is a long time. Who knows what has happened during that time. They may have done it just to appease him or some countries may have wanted to try and rid themselves of their mutant populations.

It could have happened during the Ford or Carter administration.

Perceptions of public figures change over time. A person may appear as a terrorist during one period of time and be seen as a freedom fighter at later time.

I could see going in this direction with Magneto as well. He could be granted a presidential pardon for his crimes and exonerated of JFK's assassination.

 

[Mr.M]

We know Ted Kennedy came out as a mutant. So maybe Erik was later exonerated from JFK. If it is public knowledge that the Kennedys' were mutants, then you could logically come to the conclusion that Magneto's involvement was to prevent the assassination, hence the public might believe he was framed back in 63'.

 

[CyclopsSummers]

In new timeline Xavier will recruit more x-men than original timeline apparently

 

[ciscostudent561]

In new timeline Xavier will recruit more x-men than original timeline apparently

how u no

 

[myra]

New interview with Simon Kinberg from Collider. This was posted today so I'm assuming it hasn't been posted here yet.

Simon Kinberg Says X-MEN: APOCALYPSE Explores More of the Beast and Mystique Relationship; Talks Having Fun with the 80s Setting

X-Men: Days of Future Past was a pretty massive success. Not only was it the highest grossing X-Men film yet, but at a worldwide total of $746 million, it bested the previous record-holder, X-Men: The Last Stand, by a margin of nearly $300 million. Needless to say, 20th Century Fox was quick to move on a follow-up, and now we have X-Men: Apocalypse poised to open in theaters on May 27, 2016. Bryan Singer returns to direct, and as the title suggests the story will revolve around the titular villain wreaking havoc on the X-Men team. We know that this film will focus on the First Class cast with the addition of Wolverine, and we also know that there’s yet another time jump as this story takes place in the 1980s.
I recently got the chance to speak with Days of Future Past writer and producer Simon Kinberg in anticipation of the film’s release on Blu-ray and DVD on October 14th, and since Kinberg is also returning as co-writer and producer on Apocalypse, he took the time to speak a bit about what fans can expect from the next X-Men film. In addition to discussing the 80s setting and the large scale of the pic, Kinberg also revealed that the film will get deeper into the relationship between Beast (Nicholas Hoult) and Mystique (Jennifer Lawrence) and will explore the impact that Charles and Erik, separately, have had on Mystique.


Kinberg previously revealed that X-Men: Apocalypse is the close of a trilogy that began with X-Men: First Class, and he told me that the relationship between Beast and Mystique will be getting more screen time in this next film than it did in Days of Future Past:

“I will say that [X-Men: Apocalypse] is definitely the close of a trilogy for those First Class characters, which isn’t to say we won’t see them in future movies, hopefully we will, but it’s a completion of an arc for them. I think that the friendship between Erik and Charles, which has always been so integral to the franchise, is something we’re continuing to explore and hopefully deepen with Apocalypse. And the relationship between Beast and Mystique is a really interesting one that we didn’t have a lot of time to explore in Days of Future Past, so we’ll have an opportunity to do more of that in Apocalypse.”


First Class can be seen Erik’s story and Days of Future Past can be seen as Charles’ story, so I asked Kinberg if Apocalypse would similarly single out one of the main characters. He declined to go into any details about the story’s focus given that it’s still very early, but he did say that Apocalypse explores how the influence of both Erik and Charles has impacted Mystique:

“Part of what’s really interesting about Mystique’s character is that she is, in some ways, the child of both Erik and Charles. She grew up with Charles and then she sort of became a woman with Erik, so her being the cross-pollination, if you will, of those two philosophies and those two men is something we can explore in the movie too.”


With regards to the film’s 1980s setting, Kinberg said that he and Singer have been very much enjoying writing in the time period:

“We’re having a lot of fun with the idea of the 80s. It’s a decade that Bryan and I both grew up in and so the music, the style, the aesthetic, the legacy of 80s movies is something we’re really having fun with.”


Finally, while Kinberg said that budget specifics haven’t been worked out yet, I asked if Fox is giving the team a bigger sandbox to play in after the box office numbers of Days of Future Past:

“There are some very big set pieces. I don’t know what the budget’s gonna be because we’re still a ways away from budgeting the film, but I can say that Fox has a lot of creative confidence in the team that made Days of Future Past—myself, Bryan, Lauren Shuler Donner, Hutch Parker. All of those people are coming back so in terms of a sandbox they’re definitely giving us a lot of room to play creatively and take chances the way that we took some chances on Days of Future Past, and do some radical things just as I think we did some radical things in Days of Future Past.”



Look for much more from Kinberg in my full interview on Collider soon, and click here to pre-order X-Men: Days of Future Past on Blu-ray.

http://collider.com/x-men-apocalypse-mystique-jennifer-lawrence/

 

[Rike]

^ Nice.

 

[marvelrobbins]

I can't say I am too excited about them going into Beast & Mystique again
as I hoped they would leave that In past.DOFP worked just fine without much of it.

He reinforces again APocalypse Is final part of FC trilogy.

Odds are good Beast will be more important character than he was In DOFP.

 

[BETArayBill]

Ugh...more mystique I knew it was coming but that's the equivalent of a fart in a small theather to me the xmen movie franchise has an uncanny ability to pick the most uninteresting charcters to center there movie around and I get that it's becuse its j-law but did anyone come out of dofp and say you know what the next movie needs more mystique there's so many more interesting characters to focus on.

 

[titansupes]

I'm not a fan of the Beast/Mystique relationship at all and was very glad it was mostly ignored in DoFP. Other than the fact that they're both young, blue and handled that in different ways, there was really nothing between them, and it just gets in the way of her relationships with Xavier and Magneto.

 

[Duran Man]

I don't care about Beast and Mystique's relationship, but at least it might mean more screen time for Beast. I'm waiting for him to speak about what's in store for Cyclops, Jean, and Storm.

 

[ciscostudent561]

ACtually disagree.
I think Beast and Mystique have deep differences from Magneto and Xavier despite being followers. Both Beast and Mystique have what even Xavier called "cosmetic" problems. With Apocalypse chiming in, I think this will be add an extra dimension to the story. I don't get why anyone is rolling their eyes at Mystique. She's one of the deepest most consistent characters in all of comics. The fact that she's been played by J-law is a grace. Look I'd rather have this story focus on Cyclops, but this Story Arc so far has been the best in CMB history if you ask me. From First Class to DOFP, two incredible, solid gripping movies in all senses.

 

[marvelrobbins]

I don't care about Beast and Mystique's relationship, but at least it might mean more screen time for Beast. I'm waiting for him to speak about what's in store for Cyclops, Jean, and Storm.

The reason why he talks like this Is likely Cyclops,Jean,and Storm are supporting Characters.

Xavier,Magneto,Mystique,Beast,and to lesser extext Apoclaypse and Wolverine
are likely to be focus In Apocalypse.

Kinberg's various comments hints at this.

 

[Duran Man]

The reason why he talks like this Is likely Cyclops,Jean,and Storm are supporting Characters.

I think it's because the roles haven't been cast yet.

 

[Hamill-Joker]

I don't think those roles have been officially confirmed either. I think Kinberg has talked about them only in the sense of 'if they happen to be in the movie, they would need to have younger actors playing them'.