Apocalypse X-Men Apocalypse News and Discussion - Part 1

[marvelrobbins]

Yeah, it's hard to say where they will go. My point is that a lot of people seem to be making assumptions and placing the future of the franchise in a box (in the past exclusively), but I really don't think any of us have a clear idea where they will go beyond Apocalypse.

I agree with that.Deadpool and next wolverine will give us clues where they
may go with main films after Apocalypse.

If deadpool Is set in more modern age that Is clue.

If they make new wolverine loosly based on Old man logan and set after new
future of DOFP that Is another clue.It could even have other OT actors In it.

If gambit isn't In Apocalypse and a solo film for him Is the mystery 2018
film and that Is set In modern times and not 1980's that Is another clue.

Patrick Stewart has hinted at having future with X-men films.In one of her carious interviews for DOFP Lauren Shueller Donnor hinted at using spin-offs like MS does.After doing poential spin-offs like deadpool,Gambit,and another
Wolverine film then they unite for another full X-Men film.

 

[The Original Bamfer]

I'd say it's nearly set in stone that Gambit will appear in Apocalypse, which likely means his part will be mainly in the past.

 

[marvelrobbins]

Trust me, he doesn't. He still does work for hire. This is not a Kevin Feige situation. Does he have influence? Sure, why not? But he has no control. Nothing in that article says otherwise.

Lauren shueller Donnor Is one with most control here.And when he Is involved Bryan Singer.Reportly James Mangold consulted with both Singer and
Kinberg on new wolverine.Kinberg may or may not be involved with Gambit solo film.Donnor had left the door very open for original cast to return.

Kinberg Is working on starw wars projects and FF as well as X-Men.Also let's remember Singer also brought In his X2/Superman returns writers to work on
script so Kinberg isn't even solo writer on Apocalypse.

 

[marvelrobbins]

I'd say it's nearly set in stone that Gambit will appear in Apocalypse, which likely means his part will be mainly in the past.

Well let's also remember by ending of DOFP Singer wants Iceman & Rogue
together.

I wanted to approach it with both sides.My assumination was a gambit solo film+possable appearance In Apocalypse would be In 1980's but sometimes
assuminations are wrong.Remember all those who assumed wolverine wouldn't
be In Apocalypse?

 

[The Original Bamfer]

Well let's also remember by ending of DOFP Singer wants Iceman & Rogue
together.

I wanted to approach it with both sides.My assumination was a gambit solo film+possable appearance In Apocalypse would be In 1980's but sometimes
assuminations are wrong.Remember all those who assumed wolverine wouldn't
be In Apocalypse?

No, but, right, I doubt Gambit will ever meet Rogue. And in the very unlikely chance it does happen, he'd be in at least his fifties, so...

 

[marvelrobbins]

No, but, right, I doubt Gambit will ever meet Rogue. And in the very unlikely chance it does happen, he'd be in at least his fifties, so...

Well most of comic book and animated 1990's show fans,besides me since I have never been much a fan of gambit/rogue relationship,+Anna Paquin wants
them together all signs point to bryan Singer not agreeing with that since he reunited her with iceman at end of DOFP and may put Gambit in APocalypse basicly killing that idea.

 

[magneto23]

Trust me, he doesn't. He still does work for hire. This is not a Kevin Feige situation. Does he have influence? Sure, why not? But he has no control. Nothing in that article says otherwise.

He is writing and producing these movies. To say he has "no control" over the direction of this film series is nonsense. LSD and others are heavily involved, obviously, but so is Kinberg. He is contributing and making decisions that effect the future of this franchise. That is a certain level of control. Thats why I said "kind of" does.

 

[psylockolussus]

You need the sensational headline though. That one takes the cake. Sorry Psylock.... thanks for the clarification though Marvel.

I seriously didn't mind but what caught my attention is they considered Psylocke to be in Days of Future Past and Bryan Singer thinks she's a neat character! I hope they use her in the future!

 

[Cherry]

He is writing and producing these movies. To say he has "no control" over the direction of this film series is nonsense. LSD and others are heavily involved, obviously, but so is Kinberg. He is contributing and making decisions that effect the future of this franchise. That is a certain level of control. Thats why I said "kind of" does.

I'll meet you at "kind of" or "a level of" control. I mean actual control, as in calls the shots and makes all the executive decisions, like what movies are being made and the overall direction of the franchise. You mean control as in day-to-day operations and minor creative avenues, I think.

But I do work in the industry, and I know producers still have to answer to a higher power… unless you're somebody like JJ Abrams. But even he has to answer to Disney with Star Wars. Believe me, I've worked beneath more than one producer and even Zack and Deborah Snyder briefly. They all expressed similar frustrations with the studio(s).

The point I'm making is... Singer, Donner, Kinberg, etc. can't just go around making major decisions without first getting the approval from their superiors -- Fox.

 

[GuestStar2004]

yep in the end its up to fox what happens next and kinberg has pointed out in the past that X3 was also an end to a trilogy and it was written to be a possible final film so apocalypse being a conclusion to the FC trilogy probably shouldn't be that surprising, same with wolverine 3

as for Lauren shueller Donnor if you go back years to 2006 onwards and read any interviews with her you will see she has said so many different things and alot of it hasn't come to be, so she is more like an idea machine who has to sell them ideas to fox but in the end fox will say what they want from this franchise and donnor will have to make it work for them

 

[kasjan]

Kinberg shouldn't left school.
Mystique will always look young as Hank said, but she's 49 in 1983 (10 in 1944), not 30's.
Should born Kurt around 1963.

As for Rogue, give her flying and super strenght as second mutation, as they did with Kitty and her new power. And travel her with Cable to past in next movie after Apocalypse, that she could met Gambit or we will never see her fighting in action. I don't count BluRay cut, I want to see it at cinema.

 

[Dayspring1]

Dude, if Cable makes it into X-men: Apocalypse that would be incredible. I never thought I'd see the day that would happen in this film franchise, or even be a possibility.

 

[Cherry]

Dude, if Cable makes it into X-men: Apocalypse that would be incredible. I never thought I'd see the day that would happen in this film franchise, or even be a possibility.

Now that they can use Scott and Jean again, both in the future and past, does anyone think that if Cable shows up, he will be their son? I can't remember if Madelyne Pryor is Cable's actual mother, but I doubt they would include her.

I would love to see Cable, Sinister, Apocalypse, and the Summers bloodline either in Apocalypse or in a follow-up.

 

[GuestStar2004]

It's possible they won't go the relation route with it, I mean singer was thinking about original having cable in DOFP but later changed it to bishop

 

[Sithborg]

Can we please keep the Summer's bloodline simple in this continuity?

 

[Cherry]

It's possible they won't go the relation route with it, I mean singer was thinking about original having cable in DOFP but later changed it to bishop

Maybe they do want to include the relationship and that's why they left Cable out of DOFP, because Scott and Jean were dead at the time?

 

[The Original Bamfer]

I'm not a fan of any of the Summers kids, with Cable easily being one of my least favorite mainstream characters. So if they decide to incorporate any of them into the films (which I hope they don't,) I'd prefer they do it similarly to how they did the presumed X-Man cameo in DoFP; light with no spoken familial ties to existing characters. My biggest gripe with the Summers bloodline in the films is now Havok. I love Havok and enjoyed him in FC, but the fact that they made him much, much older than Cyclops, well, I think it'd make the most sense just not to connect them at all. I'm not saying I think they shouldn't be brothers in the films, in fact I think the opposite, I just don't think it needs to be addressed unless Havok has a pivotal role in XA and shares a scene with Scott, which I kind of doubt will happen.

It's weird that I feel this way about one of the most prominent family lines from the comics, yet I'm pretty much adamant on connections being made between Nightcrawler and Mystique in the movies (which I've been advocating since FC.) Unlike with the Summers', though, I do actually seeing the blue family tree finally coming to fruition in XA. You might say this is because I'm a Nightcrawler fan, which I obviously am, but I'm also a big Cyclops fan. Some things, based on the existing continuity (FC, DoFP) will just tend to work better than others.

 

[Cherry]

I think they kept Havok alive for a reason. They killed off or excluded every single B character from First Class, except for him. When I say "B character," I mean anyone other than the four big leads (Magneto, Xavier, Beast, Mystique). He didn't do much in DOFP, but they notably kept him alive. I believe it's for a reason. Not that he will be a main character, necessarily, but something to do with Cyclops. To me, it would be a big loss if they never made the connection.

As for the Summers kids, I love Cable and Rachel Summers. In my fantasy world, they would both make appearances, with Cable getting an X-Force series with Deadpool. No Hope Summers for me, though.

 

[CyclopsWasRight]

With the timeline being altered Cable could be the result of that change.

For instance Jean and Scott could've me later on and formed the team in the OT timeline but because of the alteration Xavier finds them a bit sooner and they meet, sparks fly and they have a kid sooner than the events of X1

 

[sabetoonth]

Wasn't it said somewhere that Havok had been changed to Scott's father or am I thinking of speculation someone made here on the boards?

 

[x-er]

yep in the end its up to fox what happens next and kinberg has pointed out in the past that X3 was also an end to a trilogy and it was written to be a possible final film so apocalypse being a conclusion to the FC trilogy probably shouldn't be that surprising, same with wolverine 3

as for Lauren shueller Donnor if you go back years to 2006 onwards and read any interviews with her you will see she has said so many different things and alot of it hasn't come to be, so she is more like an idea machine who has to sell them ideas to fox but in the end fox will say what they want from this franchise and donnor will have to make it work for them

Whatever happens I just hope that they don't split Apocalypse into two parts. Waiting for the second half of a film to come out in theaters is one of my biggest pet peeves.

 

[The Original Bamfer]

Wasn't it said somewhere that Havok had been changed to Scott's father or am I thinking of speculation someone made here on the boards?

Speculation. Thank God.

 

[marvelrobbins]

Thing Is the Summers Bloodlines are way way too convulted for the GA.

Cable Is actully son of Cyclops and Jean's clone Madeleine Pryor.It should be noted even when Cable was In 1990's animated show they never went into that.

rachel SUmmers Is daughter of cyclops and Jean from alternate timeline.

As for Havok I think they don't want to get into exactly how he and Cyclops are related which Is way I think he won't be In Apocalypse when they have
Cyclops,Jean,Storm,and possibly Nightcrawler and Gambit to use.

If cable is ever used let's hope they never go Into his bloodline only have him as mysterious character from future.

If they ever do another film with original cast In new future I would be fine with a teenage rachel as cyclops and Jean's daughter.

If nightcraler makes the cut In Apocalypse i would like to see Mystique being his mother addressed.Azarel could have knocked Mystique up after magneto was captured and before he was killed.

 

[marvelrobbins]

Whatever happens I just hope that they don't split Apocalypse into two parts. Waiting for the second half of a film to come out in theaters is one of my biggest pet peeves.

I doudt that will happen.Studios don't want to do that for comic book films.The
rumor of avengers 3 being split into 2 films has been debunked.

They only do that with last book In book series.

 

[Cherry]

I doudt that will happen.Studios don't want to do that for comic book films.The
rumor of avengers 3 being split into 2 films has been debunked.

They only do that with last book In book series.

Plus, I think they would need to renegotiate contracts with the leads because they are only signed on for three films, not four. I don't foresee a two-part "Apocalypse" movie, but hopefully Apocalypse will return in another film. He's too big a villain to be killed in one movie.

On a side note… Does anyone know if Apocalypse is THE most powerful X-Men villain besides, maybe, Dark Phoenix? Excluding any Marvel villains Fox does not own.