Apocalypse X-Men Apocalypse News and Discussion - Part 2

[JEM]

IMO, Cyclop, Jean, Storm will be important because Banshee, Havok , Mystique are Xavier 's fails and he need to redeem himself. Thank to DOFP, Xavier knows the Big 3 are evidence of his success (except for Phoenix) .

 

[def28]

They also won't be the only mutants fighting against Apocalypse.

Jean should still own regardless, like JP said.

 

[xrs13]

They also won't be the only mutants fighting against Apocalypse.

I know but like we all mostly agree, I think we all want some focus on the three of them.

 

[BMM]

Cyclops FINALLY in battle and using his power against other mutants. Jean Grey with the potential of Phoenix. And a weather wielding Storm. Should be a good show. With Quicksilver joining the roster, I wonder if they'll include Wanda? Those five could do some damage.

 

[def28]

I know but like we all mostly agree, I think we all want some focus on the three of them.

Yeah, I think they will. More so then others at least.

I imagine Quicksilver and his family (hopefully a sister) will get some focus as well. That's a powerfull crew.

 

[marvelrobbins]

They aren't going to show up till end of film.

In comics the X-Men were teens.

Apocalypse Is going to be start of real X-men team.That means Cyclops,Jean,and Storm.It should be pointed out that's not how it was In COmics but was established In First X-men film.

That casting call suggests they are more intrested In getting teenage actors In the roles.

Safe to say they will be 16 In Apocalypse.

There Is no gurante they would even go Into "Phoenix" powers of Jean.

Bryan Singer's approach was Jean's exposure to Magneto's machine expanded her powers.They went totally different direction with Last Stand.Now that trilogy Is out the window and Simon Kinberg said In new future of DOFP that Jean never went dark Phoenix who knows how they will approach Jean's powers.

Apocalypse Is almost sure to focus not on them but on Xavier,Magneto,Mystique.It's possible Beast may get more focus than them.I am pretty sure at some point In Apocalypse Xavier and Magneto will put aside their differences and work together against Apocalypse who with horseman or his army Is causing the disaster film like destrucon SInger and Kinberg have eluded to.

I just don't see them In last film of FC trilogy and last film with the FC big 4 under contract to suddenly see them have them play second fiddle to Cyclops,Storm,and Jean as some seem to think.

As for wolverine I still bet on him being 1 of 4 horseman In film.

Quicksilver could be part of Magneto's Brotherhood If there Is one In Apocalypse.

 

[BMM]

So our only options are Cyclops, Jean, and Storm arrive at the end of the film, or Charles, Erik, Hank, and Raven play second fiddle to a bunch of newcomers? There's no middle ground?

 

[JEM]

Cyclops FINALLY in battle and using his power against other mutants. Jean Grey with the potential of Phoenix. And a weather wielding Storm. Should be a good show. With Quicksilver joining the roster, I wonder if they'll include Wanda? Those five could do some damage.

I hope we will see X men and Brotherhood work together in the final act .
Imagine Xavier, Magneto, Cyclop, Jean, Storm, Beast, Quicksilver, Wanda and others against Apocalypse.
The big mutant family against the best vilain. A good way to wrap up the trilogy .

 

[def28]

So our only options are Cyclops, Jean, and Storm arrive at the end of the film, or Charles, Erik, Hank, and Raven play second fiddle to a bunch of newcomers? There's no middle ground?

There should def be. A Teacher needs his students and the School should be up and running pretty well by then.

 

[JP]

So our only options are Cyclops, Jean, and Storm arrive at the end of the film, or Charles, Erik, Hank, and Raven play second fiddle to a bunch of newcomers? There's no middle ground?

Apparently not!


And again, you don't put out a casting call and start the casting process for characters who show up in extended cameos. They're casting these 3 characters now because they're important to the story.

 

[xrs13]

So our options are either Cyvlops, Jean, and Storm only arrive at the end, or Charles, Erik, Hank, and Raven play second fiddle to a bunch of newcomers? There's no middle ground?

To be fair, to date, all the x-men films have done that. Even DOFP big characters in the old trilogy played second fiddle to that of JLaw, Fass, Hugh and McAvoy. Even Nicholas Hoult did. Yeah they were still there but nothing more than power displays.

Now for me, Cyc and Storm have been a permanent power display with only some expansion on character in X2 (for storm anyway). I don't want that to be the start of a new trilogy or whatever. If you think about FC. we learned nothing about the team other than Xavier, Mags, Hank and Mystique

EDIT- For the record: I actually agree with you guys but I see what Marvelrobbins means in relation to "what have we got other than a casting call to say they are more than just FC students"

 

[def28]

But the Professor should mainly be interacting with the new students now right? Magneto and Mystique went their separate ways.

 

[SuperT]

Yea, why would they start casting for three characters that only show up at the end of the movie. The casting starting now means these three are going to be in the movie for the long haul.

Besides, what else are Xavier and Beast going to be doing if there's no school and no students?!

 

[BMM]

There's a difference between acknowledging primary, secondary, and tertiary characters and saying that characters are just going to show up at the end of a film. Also, I don't envision McAvoy, Fassbender, Hoult, and Lawrence just equally fading into the background.

 

[BeholdMe]

They aren't going to show up till end of film.

In comics the X-Men were teens.

Apocalypse Is going to be start of real X-men team.That means Cyclops,Jean,and Storm.It should be pointed out that's not how it was In COmics but was established In First X-men film.

That casting call suggests they are more intrested In getting teenage actors In the roles.

Safe to say they will be 16 In Apocalypse.

There Is no gurante they would even go Into "Phoenix" powers of Jean.

Bryan Singer's approach was Jean's exposure to Magneto's machine expanded her powers.They went totally different direction with Last Stand.Now that trilogy Is out the window and Simon Kinberg said In new future of DOFP that Jean never went dark Phoenix who knows how they will approach Jean's powers.

Apocalypse Is almost sure to focus not on them but on Xavier,Magneto,Mystique.It's possible Beast may get more focus than them.I am pretty sure at some point In Apocalypse Xavier and Magneto will put aside their differences and work together against Apocalypse who with horseman or his army Is causing the disaster film like destrucon SInger and Kinberg have eluded to.

I just don't see them In last film of FC trilogy and last film with the FC big 4 under contract to suddenly see them have them play second fiddle to Cyclops,Storm,and Jean as some seem to think.

As for wolverine I still bet on him being 1 of 4 horseman In film.

Quicksilver could be part of Magneto's Brotherhood If there Is one In Apocalypse.

and you know this because? You've already read the script or are you assuming?

Dofp is pretty much X4. Its only questionable because the First Class characters had more screentime though some of them shared most of their screentime with Hugh who is part of the OT. At least eleven of the Ot cast members came back, then there are flashbacks from X1to 3, the opening titles and they had a big impact in the film. For me its X4.

Dofp was not x4 no matter how you cut it. Just because a good chunk of the OT came back doesn't make it a sequel the story mostly took place in the past with some excerpts from the future. I would expect more before calling dofp a sequel to x3

 

[marvelrobbins]

Who Is to say they aren't there from begining and play second fiddle to FC big guns.Ok Maybe not Beast as DOFP showed but defently to James Mcavoy,Michael fassbender,and Jennifer Lawrence.

Xavier,Magneto,and Mystique will be on their own apart from each other based on how DOFP ended.That Is almost certain to change during events of film.I will be shocked if at some point Xavier and Magneto don't put aside their differences and work together against Apocalypse.

With Cyclops,Jean,and Storm big question Is will there be montage early In film of Xavier recruiting them to School,or could he already be training them In use of powers when film or 1983 part begins.A brief hint has been made APocalypse may beguin In ancient Egypt.

 

[def28]

Mystique should be up to no good with Logan and possibly Weapon X, Magneto will probably be recruiting and Prof X and Beast will be interacting with the school and it's main new students.

Some of these characters are gonna become horsemen. I highly doubt that will be Scott, Jean and Storm. Giving them a better shot at fighting against them.

 

[marvelrobbins]

and you know this because? You've already read the script or are you assuming?

Dofp was not x4 no matter how you cut it. Just because a good chunk of the OT came back doesn't make it a sequel the story mostly took place in the past with some excerpts from the future. I would expect more before calling dofp a sequel to x3

Why would they confirm Cyclops,jean,and storm If they only made cameos
at end of film and they would be casting them now?

It was one thing In DOFP not to have a "X-Men" In past.You had bunch of mutants in future part of film to be X-Men of sorts.That's not the case In
Apocalypse.

DOFP was bit of followup to trilogy but it's best to call it sequel to First Class or second part of First Class Trilogy.

 

[marvelrobbins]

Mystique should be up to no good with Logan and possibly Weapon X, Magneto will probably be recruiting and Prof X and Beast will be interacting with the school and it's main new students.

Some of these characters are gonna become horsemen. I highly doubt that will be Scott, Jean and Storm. Giving them a better shot at fighting against them.

Quicksilver will likely be with Magneto.If they want to use Scarlet Witch as Kinberg hinted she could also be part of brotherhood.Toad Is a possibilty since he was In DOFP.

Weapon X may not be In series anymore and it may solely be with Apocalypse that Wolverine gets his adamturm.Mystique Is a wild card after end of DOFP but it's withen the realm of possibilty of her too being made a horseman.That would get Xavier,and Beast working with Magneto again to stop Apocalypse and save her.Xavier might also be trying to save wolverine
too.

Highly doudtful Cyclops,Jean,and storm will be horseman.You need some to be able to fight against Apocalypse and his followers.

Considering the bortherhood In X-men,the large amount of mutants siding with Magneto In Last Stand,and Hellfire club In FC there Is good chance a couple of horseman may be in film mainly for power displays and not be fully devolped characters.

 

[danoyse]

Why would they confirm Cyclops,jean,and storm If they only made cameos
at end of film and they would be casting them now?

It was one thing In DOFP not to have a "X-Men" In past.You had bunch of mutants in future part of film to be X-Men of sorts.That's not the case In
Apocalypse.

DOFP was bit of followup to trilogy but it's best to call it sequel to First Class or second part of First Class Trilogy.

Logan specifically told Charles to find him, Cyclops, Storm, and Jean while they were on their way to DC. Your assumption is that Charles will get around to it by the end of the next movie?

 

[danoyse]

Weapon X may not be In series anymore and it may solely be with Apocalypse that Wolverine gets his adamturm.Mystique Is a wild card after end of DOFP but it's withen the realm of possibilty of her too being made a horseman.That would get Xavier,and Beast working with Magneto again to stop Apocalypse and save her.Xavier might also be trying to save wolverine
too.

If they're saying Deadpool is part of this universe now, it's a good chance the Weapon X program will still play a part in this timeline.

 

[psylockolussus]

and you know this because? You've already read the script or are you assuming?

Dofp was not x4 no matter how you cut it. Just because a good chunk of the OT came back doesn't make it a sequel the story mostly took place in the past with some excerpts from the future. I would expect more before calling dofp a sequel to x3

Thats like saying Men in Black 3 isn't really MIB3 because the movie was set in the past and Tommy Lee Jones was just there for like fifteen minutes. Personally I see it as the 4th chapter of the Ot cast thats why its X4 for me.

Anyway, I cant wait for the casting announcements!

 

[Havok83]

Thats like saying Men in Black 3 isn't really MIB3 because the movie was set in the past and Tommy Lee Jones was just there for like fifteen minutes. Personally I see it as the 4th chapter of the Ot cast thats why its X4 for me.

Anyway, I cant wait for the casting announcements!

Um not quite. The third film in the series was called Men in Black 3. There is absolutely no room for debate there that it was MiB3.

 

[SuperT]

Just let him cling onto his X4. lol

 

[psylockolussus]

Dofp was a continuation of the story of the OT characters together. If they get a new movie someday, could you, Havok83, watch X1to 3 and their new movie and skip Dofp because its not an Ot cast film too? Personally I dont think I can because Dofp was an important chapter for them too but I can definitely skip First Class & the Wolverine films if I just wanna watch the films feat. The Ot characters.

As for the other members of the team, i hope they include Kurt.