Apocalypse X-Men Apocalypse News and Discussion - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 40

[Tilapia]

Jackman isn't the answer. Wolverine 3 will not be doing Deadpool numbers or anything close. It was a great run that is winding down.

What the franchise needs is a Chris Pratt. A new face. Sure as hell ain't JLaw. I don't know if Tatum is that guy though. But if that's the guy they are targeting, then you have to build around him. Tatum in the past, Renolds in the present. Those are the guys in their prime. The tenors of the X-Men opera. They have to carry this thing. It's on them... and the directors/writers.

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

Jackman isn't the answer. Wolverine 3 will not be doing Deadpool numbers or anything close. It was a great runner that is winding down.

What the franchise needs is a Chris Pratt. A new face. Sure as hell ain't JLaw. I don't know if Tatum is that guy though. But if that's the guy they are targeting, then you have to build around him. Tatum in the past, Renolds in the present. Those are the guys in their prime. The tenors of the X-Men opera. They have to carry this thing. It's on them... and the directors/writers.

I still don't understand why they feel this next film has to be set in the 1990s. How does that time period serve the plot? In my opinion, XA being set in the 80s did absolutely nothing for the story line. Just bad hair, bad clothes and great music. Why can't it just be set in the modern day alongside Deadpool's universe?

 

[Smilodon]

Reynolds is their new face right now. Tye could be the one in the past it if he blows up after Ready Player One in a way similar to Jennifer and Hunger Games. I think Sophie, Kodi and Evan all have a good chance of making it currently. All three have good amounts of critically acclaimed and or popular work under their belt.

I think Reynolds has got the golden touch right now though, whomever is chosen to be Cable and Domino as well as other X-Force members interacting with him are going to be getting big boosts in recognition. Not to mention the profiles of characters like Cable/Domino becoming more recognizable.

 

[Flint Marko]

I still don't understand why they feel this next film has to be set in the 1990s. How does that time period serve the plot? In my opinion, XA being set in the 80s did absolutely nothing for the story line. Just bad hair, bad clothes and great music. Why can't it just be set in the modern day alongside Deadpool's universe?

Thought the same thing myself. I think they're just rushing to try and get it in present day as quickly as possible.

 

[Tilapia]

I still don't understand why they feel this next film has to be set in the 1990s. How does that time period serve the plot? In my opinion, XA being set in the 80s did absolutely nothing for the story line. Just bad hair, bad clothes and great music. Why can't it just be set in the modern day alongside Deadpool's universe?

Sorry, I don't want Sophie Turner trying to pass as a fifty year old woman. The timeline **** ups have to have a limit. That's where I draw the line.

80's didn't minimize anything either. Frankly I don't think Deadpool needs the X-Men or vice versa. Both franchises can be separate. And we have other X-Men in Deadpool as it is.

 

[kguillou]

I say keep the next film in the 80's. I want to see this same cast and team of Xmen together with the costumes they teased at the end. Moving it to another 10 years would change things too much ( Quicksilver would probably be pushing 40).

Keep it in the 80s for one more film, I say.

 

[Smilodon]

Yeah, if anything I'd rather have Deadpool feature the younger X-Men of the OT - Iceman, Kitty, Rogue, Colossus and then Beast from X3 because Kelsey deserves more. Don't have to recast, their ages match up just fine. They were shafted like crazy and we could use some of that Reynolds/Miller/Wernick/Reese magic.

 

[Tilapia]

You can give the old OT people some cameos, but honestly, they are all teachers/mentors now. Having them show up in every Deadpool movie takes away from Deadpool and his supporting characters. We don't NEED Colossus, as good as he was. I'd rather they focus on new mutants with perhaps some old guys sparkled in for fan service. Anna Paquin and Shawn Ashmore characterizations don't really work in Deadpool. Ellen Page has pulled off humor though, maybe she'd come back, but her character has been written pretty poorly.

 

[Bruce Malone]

I say keep the next film in the 80's. I want to see this same cast and team of Xmen together with the costumes they teased at the end. Moving it to another 10 years would change things too much ( Quicksilver would probably be pushing 40).

Keep it in the 80s for one more film, I say.

and yet will looked to have barely aged just like the rest of the First Class series cast on this 30 year journey timeline.

 

[Smilodon]

I agree, but if we were to hand out Colossus-sized roles in a spinoff, then I would prefer it to be Kitty, Rogue, Iceman etc. Their characterizations could easily fit into Deadpool I feel like - they're not all that fleshed out to begin with and they wouldn't necessarily be going into rants like Wade. It'd do well in establishing the X-Men of the present day. Of course they could be easily replaced by others, just nice fanservice.

But I do agree that they shouldn't overshadow Deadpool's supporting cast.

 

[Raiden]

I agree, but if we were to hand out Colossus-sized roles in a spinoff, then I would prefer it to be Kitty, Rogue, Iceman etc. Their characterizations could easily fit into Deadpool I feel like - they're not all that fleshed out to begin with and they wouldn't necessarily be going into rants like Wade. It'd do well in establishing the X-Men of the present day. Of course they could be easily replaced by others, just nice fanservice.

But I do agree that they shouldn't overshadow Deadpool's supporting cast.

I have a feeling that Fox is going to try to squeeze Deadpool dry before long.

 

[kguillou]

and yet will looked to have barely aged just like the rest of the First Class series cast on this 30 year journey timeline.

Well, it's been 20 years.

If the timeline jumps again to 1992 or something and Hank and Prof X look the same then I will have to start calling shenanigans.

 

[Tilapia]

I agree, but if we were to hand out Colossus-sized roles in a spinoff, then I would prefer it to be Kitty, Rogue, Iceman etc. Their characterizations could easily fit into Deadpool I feel like - they're not all that fleshed out to begin with and they wouldn't necessarily be going into rants like Wade. It'd do well in establishing the X-Men of the present day. Of course they could be easily replaced by others, just nice fanservice.

But I do agree that they shouldn't overshadow Deadpool's supporting cast.

It's a gimmick bro. Even those actors have probably moved on. Rogue was cut in DoFP. Maybe Paquin got some left over unsold DVDs for her cut. New Colossus was actually well written. None of the OT characterizations really fit Deadpool. Ashmore appeared a little more hard nosed, but that was in the old timeline where everyone was dying. Maybe he's still that "p" word I can't say here in the new timeline. None of those actors are necessary. Cudmore was tossed in the disposal bin and we were fine.

Let the OT go people. We have to move on at some point.

 

[Smilodon]

It's a gimmick bro. Even those actors have probably moved on. Rogue was cut in DoFP. Maybe Paquin got some left over unsold DVDs for her version. Colossus was actually well written. Not of the OT characterizations really fit Deadpool. Ashmore appeared a little more hard nosed, but that was in the old timeline where everyone was dying. Maybe he's still that "p" word I can't say here in the new timeline. None of those actors are necessary. Cudmore was tossed in the disposal bin and we were fine.

Let the OT go people. We have to move on at some point.

Then they can just recast and characterize them more accurately then. I'm not attached to the OT cast as much as I would like to see those characters get more chances. So I have no issue with that. Sure it'd be nice for continuity, but if they recast, no big deal.

 

[Tilapia]

Then they can just recast and characterize them more accurately then. I'm not attached to the OT cast as much as I would like to see those characters get more chances. So I have no issue with that. Sure it'd be nice for continuity, but if they recast, no big deal.

I agree. They are actors so maybe they can pull it off. Incorporate Bobby into X-Force? He's sort of the modern day Cyclops in that regard. But we have to be careful to not make Deadpool movies into X-Men movies. This would be for X-Force.

 

[sleekstereo]

Singer in the LA Times:

“I recently met [Oscar-winning director] Danny Boyle — he and I have known of each other for many years but never met. He was prepping ‘Steve Jobs’ at the time and I was doing this and he said, ‘Are you going to be doing ‘X-Men’ movies forever?’ And I didn’t actually say no. The reality is, even though I’m very desperate to jump to something completely different, I’ve spent so many years in this universe and I love this cast and the characters so much, I just don’t see myself abandoning them forever. Perhaps as a consultant, as a producer, even as a director, I could see myself returning in the future. Just right now, once this one is done, I’d like to do something really different.”

 

[RadioSha]

The cynicism and criticism towards X-Men: Apocalypse is insane. 48% on rotten tomatoes?! Really?

I thought it was great. I really, really really liked it. All my family liked it more than Civil War and the crow was into it- in that particular theater- more so than when I saw Civil War opening night.

I think it's definitely one of those things that if you rewatch it again and think about it harder, it might get worse and worse. But at the moment I dug it.

I'm going to get crap for this, but I thought the ending was incredible. Yes, some of it doesn't make sense and you can pretty much telegraph which mutant was about to do her/his power thing, but it felt like a ride.

Overall: 8/10, yep. I'm going there.

 

[Mad Ones]

I still don't understand why they feel this next film has to be set in the 1990s. How does that time period serve the plot? In my opinion, XA being set in the 80s did absolutely nothing for the story line. Just bad hair, bad clothes and great music. Why can't it just be set in the modern day alongside Deadpool's universe?

They wanted to close the First Class arcs and show the origins of the X1 team. It was what the prequel films were leading up to and it pretty much had to take place in the 80s so that the OT characters were the right age.

 

[Tilapia]

We aren't used to having weak villains in X-Men. It's known for having some of the best rogues. Apocalypse was an all powerful bore. Every cliché into one. Poe Dameron was given nothing to work with. Hell, at least Isaacs was willing to wear the makeup, unlike some other divas in this franchise. Hoult may have to go too. Are they still dating one another in real life? I'm really getting tired of human form beast. If that is something Deadpool can do away with for an updated older Beast, or even recasting a younger Beast and using Mo Cap then count me on board.

One more thing, one actor I would like to see return would be Marsden to establish X-Force. He could play off well with Deadpool and get him to join. Also the Cable connection there. We don't need everyone back, but he's an actor that was so badly underutilized that there is potential to use him in X-Force.

 

[Raiden]

We aren't used to having weak villains in X-Men. It's known for having some of the best rogues.

X-Men is used to having Magneto as the only important villain.

 

[Brother Jack]

Singer in the LA Times:

“I recently met [Oscar-winning director] Danny Boyle — he and I have known of each other for many years but never met. He was prepping ‘Steve Jobs’ at the time and I was doing this and he said, ‘Are you going to be doing ‘X-Men’ movies forever?’ And I didn’t actually say no. The reality is, even though I’m very desperate to jump to something completely different, I’ve spent so many years in this universe and I love this cast and the characters so much, I just don’t see myself abandoning them forever. Perhaps as a consultant, as a producer, even as a director, I could see myself returning in the future. Just right now, once this one is done, I’d like to do something really different.”

I think he should step down as director. Let someone new come in to take care of the new cast. Whether it's Matthew Vaughn or someone else.

 

[Sithborg]

He is already taking a break.

 

[Saitou Hajime]

I still don't understand why they feel this next film has to be set in the 1990s. How does that time period serve the plot? In my opinion, XA being set in the 80s did absolutely nothing for the story line. Just bad hair, bad clothes and great music. Why can't it just be set in the modern day alongside Deadpool's universe?

Because then they couldn't continue to milk the period setting gimmick again.

 

[RLAAMJR.]

He is already taking a break.

A long break please.

 

[psyonic]

Perhaps we won't get a new X-Men team movie until after New Mutants, Wolverine and Deadpool 2.. I doubt Gambit is happening anytime soon. So Maybe 2019. X1,X2,X3 all had three year gaps and so did FC and DoFP. There was only 2 in between DoFP and XA. Let's have the X-Men take a breather xD