No doubt about that, that's a must stories of that magnitude they can't squeeze into one film which is what we got here. If it was longer into two parts I really think the movie would've been received well it was just to much to tell and not enough in one movie.
Nobody has a budget for that anymore. People are already complaining about Thanos before his movie has even arrived. I've heard a lot of "Guess I'll have to do this myself (but first I'll sit around in my space throne for 12 movies before I show up)". The two parters are gimmicks and only work if there is proven economical return.
Remember your creative writing teacher telling you you had to cut material to meet a page limit, otherwise you get a warning if not a deduction? Sometimes you just have to work with what you have in the limited time frame of major motion picture story telling.
Apocalypse was butchered. We have to move on. We can complain if they **** it up again in the next reboot or time travel.
The fight felt rather small scaled than I'd like. I would be fine if the choreography was better. The only wow scenes were Quicksilver's little sequence against Apocalypse and the Phoenix which I did not see coming, so it was nice surprise. I thought the CGI was rather noticeable, but hey, what big budget film doesn't have noticeable CGI. I like the new cast, and was a little impress with how much screen time they had, namely Scott and Jean. I'm interested in the next film with these kids.
It would have been more awesome if we saw Magneto, Storm and Cyclops shooting at Apocalypse with all their might ( and Professor X telephatically ) , then when they're about to be beaten, Jean comes in and incinerates Apocalypse.
What the hell did Apocalypse need Charles for when he wad able to get in and control Charles during the Cerebro scene. He alsonfougjt Charles on the Astral plane i guess and he blocked Charles and shielded the others from his power. It seemed to me that Apocalypse had telepathy
Singer just took some far out there liberties with Apocalypse. He had none of his powers from the comic. It just wasn't Apocalypse. Why Singer and company continue to make head scratching changes are beyond me.
Yeah, I'm really mixed on this film. On one hand I think the X-Men students were awesome and I've been waiting a long time to see them get some attention. On the other they made horrible mistakes with the villains, including some major X-Men.
So while they are trying to improve on certain areas they are still making the same mistakes with poor development and creative license. Warren's transition alone to Archangel should have been something really powerful, that's a major X-Men arc that spans decades of solid stories. But they just threw it all away. Still shooting themselves in the foot far too often.
The horsemen and Apocalypse needed to be interesting for this story to work, and sadly only Mags as usual was given anything.
What the hell did Apocalypse need Charles for when he wad able to get in and control Charles during the Cerebro scene. He alsonfougjt Charles on the Astral plane i guess and he blocked Charles and shielded the others from his power. It seemed to me that Apocalypse had telepathy
Because Charles connected to him first. Apocalypse just get a good grip. The why he want Charle reveal the character deepness.
Apocalypse want to be everything , god. But he is alone where Charles is connected to everything and has a family. In a way Apocalypse is a lonely guy without a home, and ha want to destroy civilization, get tback to more natural ways. This is why he is for the rule of the fittest. This also make him a good antagonist, in the movie both Charles and Erik lost their home and most of his horsemen doesn't have one.
Was Apocalypse butchered though if the source material wasn't all that great to begin with? It's interesting that of all the complaints I've seen, butchering Apocalypse was not really the highest on the list. Boring yes, but it seems like most fans expected it.
Apocalypse has been a hyped villain since this series started 16 years ago so expectations were high. I think most who read the comics are familiar with AOA. Which is just epic in scope. While the modern readers look to Dark Angel saga. One of the most highly acclaimed Marvel books of the past two decades.
The frustrating thing I think is Apocalypse and his horsemen are villains who lend to very popular large and complex stories and this was not one. It was simple and poorly executed on the villains.
I can understand people being upset with their use of Apocalypse. It wasn't a great adaptation of the character and is a weak link in the movie. I think the actor playing him did fine with what they gave him and they tried to flesh him out a bit more than he's perceived to be in the comics, but ultimately he's not so impressive and the movie is definitely carried by the other characters.
On another note it does disappoint me that we likely won't see an Age of Apocalypse movie in live action.
Singer just took some far out there liberties with Apocalypse. He had none of his powers from the comic. It just wasn't Apocalypse. Why Singer and company continue to make head scratching changes are beyond me.
I honestly disagree with this notion. It feels like quite a bit of his movie power set came from the comics or the cartoons. Or at least had similarities to Apocalypse in the comics.
Transferring bodies to keep immortality: X-Men#97 (
) and Heroic Age X-Men Disintegration of humans:
Teleportation: -
,
,
Telekinesis and being so powerful in telepathy it requires take two psychics to take him on:
The only difference was his use of sand powers, which I have seen some argued was part of a transmutation/matter changing power set. Could his powers be more properly defined and his personality be more fleshed out. Yes. But I don't think following, or straying from, the comics was the problem in this case.
Even when toned down and more grounded in this movie, he is still somewhat of an op supervillain, and personality was more or less in line with the comics and 90'a cartoon but I think should have been more fleshed out and ideals delved into.
It took the X-Men(Cyclops, Quicksilver, Jean going full Phoenix , Professor X, and Beast) and a Storm and Magneto with increased power set in both the physical and astral world in order to take him down. But unfortunately it was scaled down with so-so choreography so it didn't really show off how epic it felt honestly
I thought the X-men would fight Apocalypse, but they didnt which made using him as a villian a complete waste. I wanted to see all those characters team up to take him down as opposed to an [BLACKOUT]individual psychic battle with Xavier and Jean just walking out and going Phoenix on him. Oh I guess Quicksilver and Mystique got some hits but there was no team work or big fight sequence with him[/BLACKOUT]
I thought the X-men would fight Apocalypse, but they didnt which made using him as a villian a complete waste. I wanted to see all those characters team up to take him down as opposed to an [BLACKOUT]individual psychic battle with Xavier and Jean just walking out and going Phoenix on him. Oh I guess Quicksilver and Mystique got some hits but there was no team work or big fight sequence with him[/BLACKOUT]
[BLACKOUT]they all attacked him after Jean pretty much destroyed him. We did not see them team up to take him out in his powered up form with him fighting back. At that point, he just stood there helpless and took their attacks but there was no actual fight between him and the group[/BLACKOUT]
Bryan probably thought what made apocalypse more powerful was that he didn't need to physically attack back, the character felt he was a god and could kill with a blink of an eye if he wished.
I honestly disagree with this notion. It feels like quite a bit of his movie power set came from the comics or the cartoons. Or at least had similarities to Apocalypse in the comics.
Transferring bodies to keep immortality: X-Men#97 (
) and Heroic Age X-Men Disintegration of humans:
Teleportation: -
,
,
Telekinesis and being so powerful in telepathy it requires take two psychics to take him on:
The only difference was his use of sand powers, which I have seen some argued was part of a transmutation/matter changing power set. Could his powers be more properly defined and his personality be more fleshed out. Yes. But I don't think following, or straying from, the comics was the problem in this case.
Even when toned down and more grounded in this movie, he is still somewhat of an op supervillain, and personality was more or less in line with the comics and 90'a cartoon but I think should have been more fleshed out and ideals delved into.
It took the X-Men(Cyclops, Quicksilver, Jean going full Phoenix , Professor X, and Beast) and a Storm and Magneto with increased power set in both the physical and astral world in order to take him down. But unfortunately it was scaled down with so-so choreography so it didn't really show off how epic it felt honestly
Yeah, I don't get the complaints about his power set either. He had a lot of the same powers as in the comics/cartoon. Would I have liked to see a little more? Like him growing in the real world? Of course I would, but I was also happy with what we got and what it took to take him down. As Moira pointed out in the movie [BLACKOUT]the combined efforts of the X-Men was not enough to take him down, even with help from a powered up Magneto, if it wasn't for Pheonix Apocalypse would would have beat their combined might, which was significant.[/BLACKOUT]
I can understand people being upset with their use of Apocalypse. It wasn't a great adaptation of the character and is a weak link in the movie. I think the actor playing him did fine with what they gave him and they tried to flesh him out a bit more than he's perceived to be in the comics, but ultimately he's not so impressive and the movie is definitely carried by the other characters.
On another note it does disappoint me that we likely won't see an Age of Apocalypse movie in live action.
Yeah, I don't get the complaints about his power set either. He had a lot of the same powers as in the comics/cartoon. Would I have liked to see a little more? Like him growing in the real world? Of course I would, but I was also happy with what we got and what it took to take him down. As Moira pointed out in the movie [BLACKOUT]the combined efforts of the X-Men was not enough to take him down, even with help from a powered up Magneto, if it wasn't for Pheonix Apocalypse would would have beat their combined might, which was significant.[/BLACKOUT]
I agree I don't get the power complaints with. For instance when she disintegrate Caliban's gun or any building I just thought they were pay homage to one of the optimism horsemen powers. One of Famine powers was to disintegrate organic matter.
my younger sister who liked supehero movies, thought this film was unique and interesting. She really loved Jean. Plus the MCU does a bad job with their villans alot of the time, I thought Apocalypse was intimidating and threatening. I like the God-like evil presence.
my younger sister who liked supehero movies, thought this film was unique and interesting. She really loved Jean. Plus the MCU does a bad job with their villans alot of the time, I thought Apocalypse was intimidating and threatening. I like the God-like evil presence.
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