Apocalypse X-Men Apocalypse News and Discussion - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 42

[spideyboy_1111]

nothing was wrong with her costume... but it didn't really make sense with the rest of the horsemen. Storm should have had alot of skin exposed too imo...

i didn't agree with the whip, but as i said before, its about owning the look

 

[Kal-El.9859]

Psylocke in the movie was just such a cliché and she looked ridiculous. The same costume with actual pants would have been so much better. Silent Ninja assasin in a bikini. Seriously? It is 2016 and they give us a female comic book character wearing a bikini. When she is using her whip I couldn't believe how ridiculous she looked. Why a whip? Is there anything more ridiculous (borderline sexist) for a women to use as a weapon?

She is wearing a bikini, jumping around and she needs to be careful not to show the entire world her vulvar...she was wearing skin-colored panties to make sure her vagina was not in the open...

no, just no!

Nah...she looked hot. Don't be a hater.

 

[X-Maniac]

Psylocke in the movie was just such a cliché and she looked ridiculous. The same costume with actual pants would have been so much better. Silent Ninja assasin in a bikini. Seriously? It is 2016 and they give us a female comic book character wearing a bikini. When she is using her whip I couldn't believe how ridiculous she looked. Why a whip? Is there anything more ridiculous (borderline sexist) for a women to use as a weapon?

She is wearing a bikini, jumping around and she needs to be careful not to show the entire world her vulvar...she was wearing skin-colored panties to make sure her vagina was not in the open...

no, just no!

LOL... it was not that bad.

Catwoman has a whip, Wonder Woman has a lasso, Psylocke's psychic whip was just a way of capturing her opponent from a distance and showed she can shape her telekinetic energy into weapons of her choosing.

She's also made a flail (spiked ball and chain) in the comics. And a bow and arrow.

I think more characterisation that expressed her fierceness (and thus perhaps showing she didn't feel she needed any armour) would have gone a long way to satisfying any criticism.

And we have been coping perfectly well with Mystique being stark naked, helped by some very strategically placed groups of scales on upper and lower body!

 

[Kal-El.9859]

LOL... it was not that bad.

Catwoman has a whip, Wonder Woman has a lasso, Psylocke's psychic whip was just a way of capturing her opponent from a distance and showed she can shape her telekinetic energy into weapons of her choosing.

She's also made a flail (spiked ball and chain) in the comics. And a bow and arrow.

I think more characterisation that expressed her fierceness (and thus perhaps showing she didn't feel she needed any armour) would have gone a long way to satisfying any criticism.

And we have been coping perfectly well with Mystique being stark naked, helped by some very strategically placed groups of scales on upper and lower body!

Everyone's a critic...

 

[RLAAMJR.]

For me Psylocke was awesome in the movie.

 

[BeholdMe]

I also wanted Storm to show a bit more skin, she dosent really get cold and i just didnt want her so covered up which is why im not a fan of the costume she had on the end. The Horseman costume was miles better though. The Psylocke costume was a service to fans, i frankly dont see what the issue was people asked for a comic accurate costume and that is exactly what they received.

 

[Legion]

I know some people didn't like it as much but QS knocking Apocalypse around was pretty awesome.

I appreciate the fact that they involved QS in someway but that scene was kind of corny. I really think they missed an opportunity to have a showdown between QS and Magneto. I think that could have been a really interesting scene and the revelation that QS was Magneto's son should have been the catalyst for Magneto to switch sides.

But yea I think Apocalypse vs QS could have been much better, especially if Apocalypse had his comic book abilities.

 

[Kal-El.9859]

I may be the only one but I loved Sophie as Jean. I liked the costume at the end, I just wish it was more like the cartoon costume. I actually really like this concept art of Elle Fanning as Jean...
I put it in spoilers because it's pretty big

Spoiler

 

[fobi]

I might be late on this but I just caught another line from TAS. The scene where Jean was having her nightmare, Xavier told her that "People fear what they don't understand." Storm said that to Jubilee in the Night of the Sentinels episode. I know that's not necessarily an uncommon saying but I just clearly remember it from the show.

 

[def28]

LOL... it was not that bad.

Catwoman has a whip, Wonder Woman has a lasso, Psylocke's psychic whip was just a way of capturing her opponent from a distance and showed she can shape her telekinetic energy into weapons of her choosing.

She's also made a flail (spiked ball and chain) in the comics. And a bow and arrow.

I think more characterisation that expressed her fierceness (and thus perhaps showing she didn't feel she needed any armour) would have gone a long way to satisfying any criticism.

And we have been coping perfectly well with Mystique being stark naked, helped by some very strategically placed groups of scales on upper and lower body!

I'm sure there was a good way to use the whip and show other tk weapons but here it was just dumb, as was the match up with Beast. That lasso should have cut his head off, and since Beast doesn't use Weapons that limits the fight potential. If they only want her for a fight scene then putting her against foes like Spiral, The Hand, Sentinels, Shadow King or other telepaths is the way to go.

All the sword training Munn did was not put to good use at all and the characters power strengths is with being a telepath. It's been said a billion times but if they can't capture why a character works with their personality or powers then best not to use them, as it does the studio and character no favors. She was thrown in here last minute cause she's hot, they are running out of fan favs to introduce and there was a fight scene. Not cause they had an interesting take on her powers be it telekinetic weapons, telepathy or Katanas. Plus she was void of character. Just wasn't worth it.

Not that it's Munn's fault but the costume was the only thing I think the character had going for her. She looked like Psylocke, but the the character and fighting style were not here.

 

[psylockolussus]

Psylocke was fierce and was the best horsemen in the movie especially compare to the disaster that was Storm! Anyway, I'm glad that they gave her the bikini! Thats her classic costume in the comics!

 

[DavidHaller]

she is wearing a bikini and heels for crying out loud!...I thought Olivia Munn looked extremely uncomfortable in many scenes and even seemed to have struggled to walk in those absurd heels.

Why is a warrior not wearing cloth that protect her body from harm? I don't think Mystique's nudity is an adequate comparsion. Especially not for a character that is fantastically portrayed as a strong, opinionated woman in more than three movies. Mystique's nudity is nearly political. Psylocke's nudity is pointless.

Her costume is not even used in the comic books anymore for a reason. Because it is sexist, objectifing and totally ridiculous looking.

Psylocke's costume is a great example that comic book accuracy is most of the time a huge mistake as soon as comic books are adapted for different media.

 

[def28]

she is wearing a bikini and heels for crying out loud!...I thought Olivia Munn looked extremely uncomfortable in many scenes and even seemed to have struggled to walk in those absurd heels.

Why is a warrior not wearing cloth that protect her body from harm? I don't think Mystique's nudity is an adequate comparsion. Especially not for a character that is fantastically portrayed as a strong, opinionated woman in more than three movies. Mystique's nudity is nearly political. Psylocke's nudity is pointless.

Her costume is not even used in the comic books anymore for a reason. Because it is sexist, objectifing and totally ridiculous looking.

Psylocke's costume is a great example that comic book accuracy is most of the time a huge mistake as soon as comic books are adapted for different media.

Her current outfit in the comics isn't really that different from the classic other then the leggings. The completely full sleeved body suit with a giant X didn't stay around for that long in the comics and was never close to being the most popular.

As seen below, I think the Remender Uncanny X-Force or the current Uncanny X-Men outfit would have been the best option. But these are not radical departures from her classic costume at all.

 

[Dark Raven]

Finally saw Apocalypse.

I was wondering why Angel, Psylocke and Storm didn't join in on the attack against Apocalypse. It would've been great if they turned on him as well. Storm kind of joined in at the very end, but for most of the time she just sat there passively. I was also hoping Psylocke would join the X-Men at the end instead of fleeing. It almost makes her more of an anti-hero or villain, a bit like Rebecca Romijn's Mystique.

How come no-one seems to have aged since the 1960s. If they make another sequel set in the 90s and everyone looks the same, that will not only be completely stretching it, but are we expected to believe that only just 10 years after in the 2000s that James McEvoy is suddenly going to look like Patrick Stewart? Even in the 80s he should be looking like Captain Picard in Star Trek: TNG, at least in age.

 

[DavidHaller]

Her current outfit in the comics isn't really that different from the classic other then the leggings. The completely full sleeved body suit with a giant X didn't stay around for that long in the comics and was never close to being the most popular.

As seen below, I think the Remender Uncanny X-Force or the current Uncanny X-Men outfit would have been the best option. But these are not radical departures from her classic costume at all.

the fundamental difference between both costumes? Pants! You know, this thing very progressive women wear from time to time to mimic men...

And Greg Land is really the worst artist in history. What a sexist moron! It is beyond me how this guy finds work.

sorry, but this costume is just so bad and borderline vulgar. She is not even capable to wear this costume without fake leg-skin stockings because otherwise we would all see her vagina!!!

(Elizabeth 'look at my vagina!' Braddock)

 

[Dark Raven]

How would we all see her vagina? During the Olympics when female gymnasts wear leotards and female divers wear swimsuits and they do all kinds of acrobatic moves, do we constantly see their vaginas on display?

It's not called Rhythmic Vagina Gymnastics or Vagina Diving.

 

[GuestStar2004]

How come no-one seems to have aged since the 1960s. If they make another sequel set in the 90s and everyone looks the same, that will not only be completely stretching it, but are we expected to believe that only just 10 years after in the 2000s that James McEvoy is suddenly going to look like Patrick Stewart? Even in the 80s he should be looking like Captain Picard in Star Trek: TNG, at least in age.

what you mean like bald? well technically the character is bald now, or his facial structure will suddenly change to match Stewart's? yeah that one will require a Suspension of disbelief anyway

gotta admit stewart looks good for a guy in his 90s in DOFP though.

 

[def28]

the fundamental difference between both costumes? Pants! You know, this thing very progressive women wear from time to time to mimic men...

Which is what I said. Otherwise it's not very different at all. Betsy has almost always had a similar outfit, and even when her costume changes it goes back to something more akin to her popular classic outfit. Acting like there was some ultra permanent change in the comics is just nonsense. It changed to a full body suit for later volumes of UXF and the all female X-Men. Two comics which were not very popular and are now gone. It didn't stay long. Her current costume design (not specially talking about artists) in Uncanny X-Men is fine.

Ever seen Psylockes Horsemen outfit from the comics? The films version is actually very tame to her one time horsemen appearance in the comics which was less then 5 years ago.

 

[GuestStar2004]

It was quite daring we even got the psylocke outfit from bryan singer

 

[def28]

It was quite daring we even got the psylocke outfit from bryan singer

I think that's another thing. We are not used to getting comic accurate X-Men costumes at all. The fact Betsy's was as close as it was brought alot of hype to the character. The costume did not work against her here at all.

 

[DOBSON10]

The only bad thing about Psylocke in the movie was her lack of dialogue/role in the movie. The costume was awesome, her powers looked good, her fighting was good. Overall I was happy with the outcome and glad to see an actual comics accurate costume for once in a Singer X-Film. It's most of the rest of the movie that sucked.

Now Apocalypse and his costume on the other hand.... SMFH...

 

[Dark Raven]

what you mean like bald? well technically the character is bald now, or his facial structure will suddenly change to match Stewart's? yeah that one will require a Suspension of disbelief anyway

gotta admit stewart looks good for a guy in his 90s in DOFP though

I partly meant facial structure, but that is a suspension of disbelief as to their looks matching, because they're played by two different actors. I'm mostly talking about how in the first X-Men movie which was made in 2000, Patrick Stewart looks much older than James McAvoy might be if there is an X-Men sequel set during the 90s, which is only 10 years (or possibly less if it's in the mid 90s) away from 2000.

And Stewart is not in his 90s. He is only 76 now and was 70 in X-Men.

In ST: TNG he was in his 50s.

Which is why I said the only difference is leggings. Otherwise it's not very different at all. Besty has always had had a similar outfit. Acting like there was some ultra permanent change in the comics is just nonsense. It changed for later volumes of UXF and the all female X-Men. Two comics which were not very popular and are now gone. It didn't stay long.

Ever seen Psylockes Horsemen outfit from the comics? The films version is actually very tame to her one time horsemen appearance in the comics which was less then 5 years ago.

Who is Besty? Someone's BFF?

 

[def28]

 

[BeholdMe]

Her current outfit in the comics isn't really that different from the classic other then the leggings. The completely full sleeved body suit with a giant X didn't stay around for that long in the comics and was never close to being the most popular.

As seen below, I think the Remender Uncanny X-Force or the current Uncanny X-Men outfit would have been the best option. But these are not radical departures from her classic costume at all.

I would've liked here to have this costume on for the movie but honestly I don't see the problem with what she had on, it's not like they just created this costume from nothing it was inspired by one of her most popular costumes and it's not as revealing as people are making it out to be. Though I would've preferred one of her current costumes it was a nice service to fans, let's just hope they keep the momentum going with the next film comes out and we keep the comic accurate costumes. It's just they didn't really give Munn lots to do and we never really got to know the character Psylocke. She did have some stand out scenes briefly but her along with Storm and Archangel were just background most of the movie it was sad because she did all that training and you really didn't see it utilized that much. This are the issues I speak of when I say they dropped the ball with this film and could've made it so better.

 

[def28]

Agreed