The Dark Knight Rises You Have My Permission To Lounge

[shauner111]

Ahhh mah stomach hurts again, from the laughtaaah!

 

[JackWhite]

I thought he was going to have the modulated voice in the mech suit? Unless that was specifically for the trailer.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

Anyone seen the new Joker poster? That damaged tattoo just ruins it. I am fine with his overall apparel (why barefoot though?), bit that freaking tattoo sticks out like a boiling wart.

 

[shauner111]

Yeah his look is the only thing that annoys me about this movie. Everything else seems great.

I thought he was going to have the modulated voice in the mech suit? Unless that was specifically for the trailer.

I thought so too early on, i think we all did. Now it seems like he always has a robot voice, no matter the suit.

 

[The Joker]

Anyone seen the new Joker poster? That damaged tattoo just ruins it. I am fine with his overall apparel (why barefoot though?), bit that freaking tattoo sticks out like a boiling wart.

Lots of things ruin it, the damaged tattoo just stands out as the worst eye sore. I hate the bare feet thing almost as much as those stupid tattoos. That ugly design from The Batman cartoon was barefoot, too. Not surprising two of the ugliest Joker designs have something like that in common.

 

[BH/HHH]

I think it's perfect myself, looks like the Joker, just another version of it,

 

[The Joker]

I think it's perfect myself, looks like the Joker, just another version of it,

This eyesore looks like another version of the Joker, too. Still ugly as sin.

And calling the Leto design perfect.....well respecting opinions and all but wow. Perfectly bad is the only way I think the word perfect fits into a sentence for that.

 

[BH/HHH]

This eyesore looks like another version of the Joker, too. Still ugly as sin.

And calling the Leto design perfect.....well respecting opinions and all but wow. Perfectly bad is the only way I think the word perfect fits into a sentence for that.

Each to their own.

 

[The Shape]

Each to their own.

Good response. It's best that you don't engage further in that convo, as it will go nowhere.

Just keep liking what you like and feeling the way you feel.

 

[The Joker]

Each to their own.

Yeah of course, but calling a design perfect is a mighty strong label. I'm genuinely curious what other costume designs in CBMs do you consider perfect if any?

Also please don't take heed of theShape's post. Our discussion can go somewhere interesting as I am genuinely interested in hearing your thought process on this, and despite the implication of theShape's post I am not trying to stop you liking what you like, or to change your opinion, as anyone who knows me here will attest to.

It's that kind of attitude that prevents good discussions from taking place, and provokes hostilities. As if challenging or questioning someone's opinion can't go anywhere, or seen as some kind of attempt to stop someone from having the opinion they have.

 

[BH/HHH]

Yeah of course, but calling a design perfect is a mighty strong label. I'm genuinely curious what other costume designs in CBMs do you consider perfect if any?

Also please don't take heed of theShape's post. Our discussion can go somewhere interesting as I am genuinely interested in hearing your thought process on this, and despite the implication of theShape's post I am not trying to stop you liking what you like, or to change your opinion, as anyone who knows me here will attest to.

It's that kind of attitude that prevents good discussions from taking place, and provokes hostilities. As if challenging or questioning someone's opinion can't go anywhere, or seen as some kind of attempt to stop someone from having the opinion they have.

I've loved all the Joker designs in live action, Erm God it's hard to think haha. Do you just mean villains?

I thought the Gren Goblin costume in Spider-Man was perfect (that ones a joke )

The Shapes just looking out for me t:

But I'm fine continuing the discussion, I don't feel it's going anywhere it shouldn't be... Yet

 

[The Joker]

I've loved all the Joker designs in live action, Erm God it's hard to think haha. Do you just mean villains?

No it doesn't have to be villains it can be any character. I don't mean which ones you loved, I mean which ones do you consider perfect. I've loved many designs but I don't think they're perfect as there is always something I feel could be tweaked or changed. There's only a small handful of costumes I consider perfect in that there isn't anything I think needs altering, and truly captures the spirit of the comic book image like Iron Man, Reeve's Superman, and Sandman's in Spider-Man 3

I thought the Gren Goblin costume in Spider-Man was perfect (that ones a joke )

Lol three attempts at doing a Goblin, and Sony still haven't gotten the design right. Hopefully Marvel will fix that when they inevitably tackle the Goblin storyline down the road.

But I'm fine continuing the discussion, I don't feel it's going anywhere it shouldn't be... Yet

Good

 

[Guts]

You can see that he's not barefoot throughout the entire movie.

 

[The Shape]

You can see that he's not barefoot throughout the entire movie.

No way, that's impossible...

 

[The Joker]

You can see that he's not barefoot throughout the entire movie.

I know, I never said he was. I said I hate the barefoot look. Since they've promoted the image several times as part of the marketing for the character, I'm guessing he must have it for a significant amount of time in the movie.

 

[BH/HHH]

No it doesn't have to be villains it can be any character. I don't mean which ones you loved, I mean which ones do you consider perfect. I've loved many designs but I don't think they're perfect as there is always something I feel could be tweaked or changed. There's only a small handful of costumes I consider perfect in that there isn't anything I think needs altering, and truly captures the spirit of the comic book image like Iron Man, Captain America's in The Winter Soldier, and Sandman's in Spider-Man 3

I'm quote open to changes, funnily enough (minus the bat nipples) I think the Val Kilmer Panther costume from Batman Forever is a near perfect (all black) Batman costume. Iron Man's is pretty flawless in all the Marvel films.

Which Cap costume? The one he has at the end or the one he has earlier in TWS? Cause I love the one he has later which is slightly updated from the one in The First Avenger.

For a look at a different take on costumes I thought Spider-Man's in the first Amazing Spider-Man I thought was perfect to. It was updated to brilliantly, I preferred it to the classic look and of course even though I'm a little bias I thought the Superman costume in Man of Steel was another update costume that was perfect (I actually don't know why they changed it for BvS even though I like that costume to).

Villain wise I agree Sandman was spot on, as I said all the Joker's, Loki looked very comics accurate I don't think they could have done that any better. Red Skull is probably my favourite comic advocated to screen villain in terms of look, that one was perfect.

Lol three attempts at doing a Goblin, and Sony still haven't gotten the design right. Hopefully Marvel will fix that when they inevitably tackle the Goblin storyline down the road.

Yeah they were all pants

I don't even know how you do it tbh, it's a tough one.

You can see that he's not barefoot throughout the entire movie.

They will CGI those out later

 

[Guts]

I know, I never said he was. I said I hate the barefoot look. Since they're promoting the image in posters and stuff as part of the marketing for the character, I'm guessing he must have it for a significant part of the movie.

He's bearfoot and wearing the Arkham sweat pants in the shot in the trailer where he's walking to Harley. So I guess he doesn't have any shoes in Arkham and when his gang breaks him out they brought him his cane and coat. Although I don't know why all the Joker promo images are from the Arkham breakout scene.

Also a lot of the designs from The Batman were horrible.

 

[BH/HHH]

He's bearfoot and wearing the Arkham sweat pants in the shot in the trailer where he's walking to Harley. So I guess he doesn't have any shoes in Arkham and when his gang breaks him out they brought him his cane and coat. Although I don't know why all the Joker promo images are from the Arkham breakout scene.

Also a lot of the designs from The Batman were horrible.

We agree there, some of them certainly were.

There designs for Superman, Green Lantern, Green Arrow, Hawkman, the Flash and Martian Manhunter were great though.

 

[The Joker]

I'm quote open to changes, funnily enough (minus the bat nipples) I think the Val Kilmer Panther costume from Batman Forever is a near perfect (all black) Batman costume. Iron Man's is pretty flawless in all the Marvel films.

Ok well minus bat nipples so there's a change right there you'd make

Which Cap costume? The one he has at the end or the one he has earlier in TWS? Cause I love the one he has later which is slightly updated from the one in The First Avenger.

Yeah the later one. The main one of TWS. Loved it.

For a look at a different take on costumes I thought Spider-Man's in the first Amazing Spider-Man I thought was perfect to. It was updated to brilliantly, I preferred it to the classic look and of course even though I'm a little bias I thought the Superman costume in Man of Steel was another update costume that was perfect (I actually don't know why they changed it for BvS even though I like that costume to).

Really you thought the first TASM one was perfect? The shoes had silver lining, the gloves design was all wrong, the costume looked like it was made from basketball material, and it didn't have the classic belt like design at the waist. Not to mention sometimes the crotch looked black; http://images.starpulse.com/news/bloggers/8/blog_images/andrew-garfield-is-spider-man.jpg

Although I absolutely LOATHE the second TASM movie, they made a massive improvement on the costume. That one was pretty close to perfect along with Raimi's.

Why do you as a Superman fan consider the MOS suit more perfect than say Reeve's?

Villain wise I agree Sandman was spot on, as I said all the Joker's, Loki looked very comics accurate I don't think they could have done that any better. Red Skull is probably my favourite comic advocated to screen villain in terms of look, that one was perfect.

Oh yes, good shout out for Loki and Red Skull. They were pretty darn accurate. I still can't wrap my head around thinking all the Jokers have been perfect, unless you mean perfect for what the directors were trying to do with them.

Yeah they were all pants

I don't even know how you do it tbh, it's a tough one.

What you don't think green spandex with purple elf boots and a night cap won't translate well into live action?

They will CGI those out later

I'd rather they do that for the tattoos instead

 

[The Joker]

He's bearfoot and wearing the Arkham sweat pants in the shot in the trailer where he's walking to Harley. So I guess he doesn't have any shoes in Arkham and when his gang breaks him out they brought him his cane and coat. Although I don't know why all the Joker promo images are from the Arkham breakout scene.

Nor do I. But it's a concern because it's the look they've been pushing most to the public. The bare chest look being the other. None of the pimp looking suits like in that pic you posted. Which might mean the Arkham scenes are not the only time he has that barefoot look.

Also a lot of the designs from The Batman were horrible.

Yeah they were. As soon as I saw the barefoot Leto Joker it brought back bad memories of the Joker from that show.

 

[BH/HHH]

Ok well minus bat nipples so there's a change right there you'd make

That's why I said near-perfect

Yeah the later one. The main one of TWS. Loved it.

Totally agree, brilliant. Much better than what he wore in the first Avengers, which was Erm shall we say not very good t:

Really you thought the first TASM one was perfect? The shoes had silver lining, the gloves design was all wrong, the costume looked like it was made from basketball material, and it didn't have the classic belt like design at the waist. Not to mention sometimes the crotch looked black; http://images.starpulse.com/news/bloggers/8/blog_images/andrew-garfield-is-spider-man.jpg

I just thought it was a perfect update, thought it just looked great. I honestly preferred it to the one they changed it to in the sequel. I guess I just thought it was cool lol

Why do you as a Superman fan consider the MOS suit more perfect than say Reeve's?

Don't get me wrong I love the classic suit, although I think the suits from the old days haven't aged well. Thankfully Reeve's performance is so good, he takes away from that and it's of its time. Again, we're talking updating the suit for the modern day and I though the MOS nailed, it the texture, the S, the cape.mpretty flawless IMO. Much btpetter than the New 52 redesign which is terrible (I prefer the T-Shirt and cape look to it aswell).

Oh yes, good shout out for Loki and Red Skull. They were pretty darn accurate. I still can't wrap my head around thinking all the Jokers have been perfect, unless you mean perfect for what they directors were trying to do with them.

I just think all the Joker's looked great, even Romero's which should have ages but I don't think it has. I think you could do any of the Joker looks in a movie today and they'd still look great. The one constant in all of them (again I'm talking live action only cause even I don't like that The Batman design). I think you look at all of them and you see the Joker. Well I do t:

What you don't think green spandex with purple elf boots and a night cap won't translate well into live action?

I'd rather they do that for the tattoos instead

 

[Guts]

They will CGI those out later

David Ayer: Dammit Jared I told you to go barefoot!

 

[BH/HHH]

David Ayer: Dammit Jared I told you to go barefoot!

 

[The Joker]

That's why I said near-perfect

Oh apologies, I misread that

Actually since you mention Schumacher, Poison Ivy's outfit in the Botanical Gardens scene and several other scenes was pretty damn perfect, and Uma was smoking hot with lovely long red hair like Ivy should have. I'd put her as one of the perfect design ones.

Totally agree, brilliant. Much better than what he wore in the first Avengers, which was Erm shall we say not very good t:

Haha well I call the first Cap one passable. Certainly didn't bother me. It was more a working in progress type thing. It helped that he was in the old WW2 time, and the costume was more kind of kooky old school.

I just thought it was a perfect update, thought it just looked great. I honestly preferred it to the one they changed it to in the sequel. I guess I just thought it was cool lol

Now there's an unpopular opinion (not that that's a bad thing). Most people drool all over the TASM 2 suit. While I think it's great I don't think it's the be all end all of Spidey suits.

But hands down that TASM suit is the worst of all the Spidey movie suits in my book for the aforementioned reasons. I think they heard the fan complaints and that's why it got a total revamp, and with no explanation. Spidey just has it in the sequel from the get-go. It was like 'Yeah lets just pretend he had this one all along' lol.

Don't get me wrong I love the classic suit, although I think the suits from the old days haven't aged well. Thankfully Reeve's performance is so good, he takes away from that and it's of its time. Again, we're talking updating the suit for the modern day and I though the MOS nailed, it the texture, the S, the cape.mpretty flawless IMO. Much btpetter than the New 52 redesign which is terrible (I prefer the T-Shirt and cape look to it aswell).

That's fair enough. For all my complaints of MOS, the suit isn't one of them. I thought it looked pretty good. Maybe I'm wearing some nostalgia goggles but my heart still lies with the classic Reeve ones as best. See this is why I like gauging other's insights, even if I don't agree with it, it's cool to hear why they feel that way. I can understand your opinion by asking you to elaborate.

This shaped up to be a very good discussion I think

I just think all the Joker's looked great, even Romero's which should have ages but I don't think it has. I think you could do any of the Joker looks in a movie today and they'd still look great. The one constant in all of them (again I'm talking live action only cause even I don't like that The Batman design). I think you look at all of them and you see the Joker. Well I do t:

Well The Batman was just for analogy purposes of how a design can still look like the Joker and be ugly as hell. As a Joker fan I hate disliking the look of my favorite villain. Especially when such a brilliant actor is playing him with such promise. Honestly Leto's potential for excellence, and the script's potential to give him some amazing material to work with, are the things that's keeping me from writing him off.

And yeah Cesar Romero along with Burgess Meredith, Frank Gorshin, Adam West, Burt Ward....all PERFECT designs.

 

[BH/HHH]

Oh apologies, I misread that

Actually since you mention Schumacher, Poison Ivy's outfit in the Botanical Gardens scene and several other scenes was pretty damn perfect, and Uma was smoking hot with lovely long red hair like Ivy should have. I'd put her as one of the perfect design ones.

I think I need a closer inspection

Haha well I call the first Cap one passable. Certainly didn't bother me. It was more a working in progress type thing. It helped that he was in the old WW2 time, and the costume was more kind of kooky old school.

From the First Avenger? I really liked that but the updated version in TWS was better. It was just the helmet on the Avengers one that I could stand,

Now there's an unpopular opinion (not that that's a bad thing). Most people drool all over the TASM 2 suit. While I think it's great I don't think it's the be all end all of Spidey suits.

But hands down that TASM suit is the worst of all the Spidey movie suits in my book for the aforementioned reasons. I think they heard the fan complaints and that's why it got a total revamp, and with no explanation. Spidey just has it in the sequel from the get-go. It was like 'Yeah lets just pretend he had this one all along' lol.

Maybe I just have different tastes, I am a fussy eater, could stem from that t:

That's fair enough. For all my complaints of MOS, the suit isn't one of them. I thought it looked pretty good. Maybe I'm wearing some nostalgia goggles but my heart still lies with the classic Reeve ones as best. See this is why I like gauging other's insights, even if I don't agree with it, it's cool to hear why they feel that way. I can understand your opinion by asking you to elaborate.

Hey nothing wrong with that, nostalgia is why Superman the Novie will forever be my favourite CBM and probably why Batman (1989) will always be my favourite Batman film. Funny cause I can watch those films and reenact them word for word yet I never tire of them and it doesn't matter what mood I'm in. I can always watch them

This shaped up to be a very good discussion I think :

Lol I see what you did there but no pun on my side, I agree it's been good t:

Well The Batman was just for analogy purposes of how a design can still look like the Joker and be ugly as hell. As a Joker fan I hate disliking the look of my favorite villain. Especially when such a brilliant actor is playing him with such promise. Honestly Leto's potential for excellence, and the script's potential to give him some amazing material to work with, are the things that's keeping me from writing him off.

And yeah Cesar Romero along with Burgess Meredith, Frank Gorshin, Adam West, Burt Ward....all PERFECT designs.

I think from memory (been a while since I saw it) didn't they improve the Joker costume on the Batman?

Maybe they'll change his look abit in his next appearance (which I'm assuming with be in the next Batman film. Maybe he will just give such a good performance that the design won't bother you as much.

on that final part