The Dark Knight Rises You Have My Permission To Lounge

[BatLobster]

Just got out of a Primus and Tool show. Both killed it, but since I'm still salty about Tool, I'll just say: Primus ****in killed it harder(as always).

Either way, it was a good show.

Awesome man. Still need to see Tool.

I saw Primus a couple years a ago, but it was when they were touring for the Willy Wonka album so it was a really weird show and I was not nearly stoned enough.

 

[Travesty]

I think that was my 8th or 9th Primus show? And I have no idea how many times I've seen Les Claypool outside of Primus doing whatever weird thing he does.

 

[BatLobster]

Nice, wow. Yeah, I'd love to see them again because truthfully the setlist last time was a bit disappointing, there was a lot I didn't get to hear.

Les is the man though.

 

[The Joker]

I just noticed Mike Engel is holding up a sign that says 'Hi Mom'. That so should have been in the movie.

Ledger's Joker managed to be legitimately scary and funny, often at the same time. That's a very important balance to have and I don't know if Leto's incarnation will be able to do that. There's been no indication that he'll be funny at all.

Well to be fair to Leto if you look at the trailers of TDK alone there was no indication Joker would be funny in them. We didn't see any of his dark humor moments in the trailers. So it could be the same case with Leto.

From memory-- Ledger did both, but Nolan was on set overseeing it for one of them. He was so confident in what he saw that he didn't even feel the need to be there for the second.

That's awesome. It's such a shame Heath passed away. He and Nolan seemed to really mesh well artistically. Nolan said in interviews that within 5 minutes of speaking to Heath he found out his ideas for how the Joker should be matched his own. Apart from coming back for TDKR, I think Nolan and Ledger would have worked together again on a non Batman related movie.

 

[BatLobster]

Yeah, it's still so sad to me that Heath never even got to see the finished movie. Especially knowing how much he loved that role. And beyond that, I definitely agree that he would've collaborated with Nolan again.

 

[The Shape]

Yup, that's one of the saddest things about his passing. Not only that he didn't get to see the finished film, but that he didn't get to experience the overwhelmingly positive response to his performance and all of the acclaim that came with it. I'm sure he would have loved to witness TDK-mania.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

Plus, how different (better) Rises could've been if the Joker was involved.

 

[shauner111]

Spoiler

As producer Charles Roven told Empire, Affleck's Batman "is not giving people a chance" in the new movie. "He is more than a vigilante," he explained. "He has become not only the cop, if you will, he has also become the jury and executioner."

Roven said that the change in Affleck's Batman comes from bitter experience. "He's seen the worst of what man can do," he said. "He's been darkened by it, he's tougher, he's angrier, I guess." While he wouldn't go into details about what, exactly, defines "the worst of what man can do," Roven did tease that this Batman has "lost those that are near and dear to him, and not necessarily from old age or disease."

Here. WE. GO.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

We already know this. He has said nothing new.

 

[The Joker]

That sounds like the a-hole kind of characterization of Batman that the member here, The Batman, loathes.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

I am fine with the characterization if it leads to an arc of him visibly changing into a less mopey person after his interaction with Supes. But this version of Supes is just as mopey he is. So I am not holding my breath.

 

[Chip Chipperson]

superman will be the light that guides Batman back to the man he once was, before Joker did what he did to Jason and Barbara

 

[Slade W]

I wonder did Joker leave Barbara paralyzed in this universe.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

Child molester Superman?

Spoiler

 

[Chip Chipperson]

Child molester Superman?

Spoiler

yeah, this was terrible on the part of Empire, what a crappy cover

 

[Greens]

Child molester Superman?

Spoiler

"Mommy, the man of steel made me do icky things!"

 

[Tacit Ronin]

One day I am gonna get a poster of Cavil's Superman smiling in a bright setting. One day.

 

[The Shape]

I am fine with the characterization if it leads to an arc of him visibly changing into a less mopey person after his interaction with Supes.

Same, and all signs point to exactly that happening.

 

[Chip Chipperson]

One day I am gonna get a poster of Cavil's Superman smiling in a bright setting. One day.

twist: he's snapping someone's neck in the process

 

[I Am The Knight]

One day I am gonna get a poster of Cavil's Superman smiling in a bright setting. One day.

And then you'll wake up.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

It doesn't matter. What matters is I believe it.

The top keeps on spinning.

 

[BH/HHH]

Yup, that's one of the saddest things about his passing. Not only that he didn't get to see the finished film, but that he didn't get to experience the overwhelmingly positive response to his performance and all of the acclaim that came with it. I'm sure he would have loved to witness TDK-mania.

Yeah it's a real shame, I'll never forget the night I found out he'd died. I couldn't believe it.

Plus, how different (better) Rises could've been if the Joker was involved.

Another shame, that movie could have really used him

 

[I Am The Knight]

It doesn't matter. What matters is I believe it.

The top keeps on spinning.

Oh goody then

 

[titansupes]

That's awesome. It's such a shame Heath passed away. He and Nolan seemed to really mesh well artistically. Nolan said in interviews that within 5 minutes of speaking to Heath he found out his ideas for how the Joker should be matched his own. Apart from coming back for TDKR, I think Nolan and Ledger would have worked together again on a non Batman related movie.

I always thought there was a big chance he'd have had the Cobb role in Inception.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

What the ****?! This was in the finished movie?

Yep.