TheOnlyOmega
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Didn't everyone say that about Peyton Hillis last year too?Meh, it's just one game & the opening game at that, I wouldn't count Cruz out so soon.
Didn't everyone say that about Peyton Hillis last year too?Meh, it's just one game & the opening game at that, I wouldn't count Cruz out so soon.
Meh, it's just one game & the opening game at that, I wouldn't count Cruz out so soon.
In as much as I hate to see the Cowboys win a game, I love seeing the Giants lose more
Yeah, my family called & let me know about this. Damn shame, met the guy twice after games at M&T, nice guy. We have him to thank for giving us the Ravens.
My prayers go out to his family.
I'll drink to that!In as much as I hate to see the Cowboys win a game, I love seeing the Giants lose more
Heh, it's probably a good thing there aren't any Browns fans on this board.
Genesis said:Yeah my family called & told me about that earlier today. I've actually met the guy 2 times while living in Baltimore & I can say that the guy was very personable. Some people who reach that status tend to shy away, be in a rush to get away from the fans but Art was a legit nice guy, actually took the time to ask me some questions about the team, how long I'd been a fan. Still one of the funniest things I can remember considering how dignified the guy was:
"Ya know what, son? I hate the goddamn Steelers, it's a feeling in the pit of my gut, it's not a choice."
Guy's done so much for the League & the NFL just lost one of the last remnants of a special era. THIS is the man resonsible for representing the owners & getting the NFL slots on television for Sundays & MNF.
Heh, I thought about ya when this went up at TWF.
I always found it odd that for Baltimore to get a team back they had to put Cleveland through the same crap Robert Irsay did with Baltimore. Thankfully it all worked out and the Browns are back. Having to watch that football team is punishment enough for Cleveland
I always found it odd that for Baltimore to get a team back they had to put Cleveland through the same crap Robert Irsay did with Baltimore. Thankfully it all worked out and the Browns are back. Having to watch that football team is punishment enough for Cleveland
I always found it odd that for Baltimore to get a team back they had to put Cleveland through the same crap Robert Irsay did with Baltimore. Thankfully it all worked out and the Browns are back. Having to watch that football team is punishment enough for Cleveland
Well, it all worked out. Baltimore has a team, Indy has a team, and Cleveland has a team.Irsay took every remnant of a football franchise with him, he left the proverbial cupboards bare, it was as if there had never been a franchise in Baltimore. Unfortunately it occurred during an era where legal action on that scale was not widely used or endorsed, so it simply went unaccounted for.
To be absolutely honest, Art Modell left Cleavland after the city leaders refused to give the franchise a new deal for a stadium. Now he too attempted to strip Cleavland of any trace of a football legacy but thankfully, the city actually had the temerity AND a better environment which allowed them to sue to keep their colors, history, records, etc. & a promise from the NFL that they would receive a replacement team.
In the end, the Ravens started from scratch as to history, colors, etc. & Cleavland retained all that they were, minus the team itself until it was replaced.
Ironically, it was the Irsay midnight creep in '84 that laid the groundwork for Cleavland to reclaim it's rights to the Browns in '95. The judges deemed the acts & results of Irsay's move to be so detrimental & unfair that the move was mentioned as evidence in the Cleavland move.