6.19 Nemesis - Discussion Thread (Spoilers)

[SamuraiSon6]

thank you as always KalKai t:

 

[KalKai]

Kal.. can I request that Clana one, only from a minute or so prior to that one, from where she first walked up to him.. the hands, the looks... me getting all mushy..

Here you go:

 

[Assassin]

I dont want to read all 9 pages, and I didnt see the first 20 min just incase they explained it, but that video lana was watching, what was that? Doomsday?

 

[Gold Samurai]

thanks kal kai!

man if lana is pushed the right way she can be as ruthless as lex no wonder she owns lex corp in the comics

 

[SamuraiSon6]

it was a video of a phantom attacking a reporter near some water(its the phantom that an episode earlier this season ended on)

 

[avidreader]

Awesome, awesome episode. Loved it to bits. Green K and all.

Thanks for all the fantastic gifs Kai.

I dont want to read all 9 pages, and I didnt see the first 20 min just incase they explained it, but that video lana was watching, what was that? Doomsday?

It was the phantom from the season premiere, Zod.

 

[Zorex]

I, too, was pretty dern bummed about the cutting of the repowering moment in the S6 premiere. Ah vell.

I forgot to say, though, how much I really liked the scene tonight where Lana arrives after Clark and Lex make it out. It was...a handful of things. Good things. It was a nice piece of the payoff after the building drama in the episode. Oh, and all the lies.

 

[Whiteflag]

Can't...

Stop...

Staring...

OMG!!! :heart: :heart: :heart:

 

[batnkevlar]

Awesome, awesome episode. Loved it to bits. Green K and all.

Thanks for all the fantastic gifs Kai.



It was the phantom from the season premiere, Zod.

It wasn't Zod... Zod's trapped in the crystal...

as for this new guy, project Aries, I think he might be the Bizzaro we'll be seeing... cuz like, in the TV comic Justice and Doom, there's a bad guy with the powers of Clark... keep that in mind...

 

[mellyM]

It wasn't Zod... Zod's trapped in the crystal...

as for this new guy, project Aries, I think he might be the Bizzaro we'll be seeing... cuz like, in the TV comic Justice and Doom, there's a bad guy with the powers of Clark... keep that in mind...

I think she was just saying the name of the premiere episode, which was Zod.

 

[MJZ]

Kal.. can I request that Clana one, only from a minute or so prior to that one, from where she first walked up to him.. the hands, the looks... me getting all mushy..

That was an amazing scene--definitely one of the best Clana scenes ever.

Anyways, killer ep--loved every bit of it.

 

[Superfreak]

another great epi to rack up for season 6.5.

-this is what will happen I think: Project Aries (otherwise known as Helo) will be the result of all of Lex's work with the Brainiac Vaccine and Kryptofreaks, to create the perfect weapon... Garenteed that in the finale (appropriately titled) that our last Phantom is going to find Aries, and possess him. Leading to the end of the Phantom Hunt, and the reopening of the fortress.


my only comment about this episode, is that Lana, shot the locks off of Lex's brief case, on a glass desk. Did anyone notice that? Is that even possible? I'm pretty sure that the desk would have shattered.

great epi.

 

[Serene]

Here you go:

Weird. I swear I posted a thank-you to you last night for these in this thread. It appears to have gone poof.

(or I screwed it up again. )

Thanks again, KalK.
I can't wait to watch this episode again. Adding this one into the S6 eps list will be a little difficult.

 

[Ultimate_Superman]

Nope, I just think that they never would have done this "recharging" scene if it wasn't in SR. Plus, they've exaggerated Clark's vulnerability to Kryptonite in this episode, another nod to SR. Wasn't it last week's episode that had Clark writhing in pain on the floor because of a meteor rock the size of someone's fist? Now, all of a sudden he's able to crawl through spaces surrounded by Kryptonite?

My God why does everything in here and the SR boards have to be SV vs SR with you guys. This **** is really getting old. SV is a great show and does justice to Superman IMO and so did the other project IMO. If you think SV borrowed stuff from the movie then fine, the movie borrowed almost the whole Kent farm scene from them. Just let it go already why can't we talk about a SV show or Tom Welling as Superman with out bringing up the movie.

 

[Riva]

I loved this epidode. It had some fantastic scenes between Clark and Lex, and Tom and Michael really sold their scenes. These were some of the best scenes the two have had together all season. It was almost a little bittersweet.

Lana finally started asking some questions of her own, and she was kind of relentless, which was cool. Not only in her pursuit of the truth, but also in realizing that with the Luthors, she may just have to resort to some manipulating of her own to get down to the heart of the matter.

There was a bit of glimpses of things to come in future eps too, with the prototype and everything.

Clark's look back at his friendship with Lex, and talk with Martha was also a little poignant.

The strongest part of the ep, even more than all the rest of the amazing stuff, was the acting. Tom, Michael and Kristin were all on their A game.

 

[SamuraiSon6]

another great epi to rack up for season 6.5.

-this is what will happen I think: Project Aries (otherwise known as Helo) will be the result of all of Lex's work with the Brainiac Vaccine and Kryptofreaks, to create the perfect weapon... Garenteed that in the finale (appropriately titled) that our last Phantom is going to find Aries, and possess him. Leading to the end of the Phantom Hunt, and the reopening of the fortress.


my only comment about this episode, is that Lana, shot the locks off of Lex's brief case, on a glass desk. Did anyone notice that? Is that even possible? I'm pretty sure that the desk would have shattered.

great epi.

good theory on project ares...it probably will go down like that

the brief case on the glass desk did bother me, but the rest of the episode was so great that didnt slow me down

 

[dark_b]

good:
-clark-lex
-recharging

dumb:
-smart lana. she was nto smart but ok nice try
-the gun on the desk....i mean WTF? and then she lies to him. like he wont notice that two bullets are missing. extreme bad writting.
-chloe walking to the bomb squads. nice lets walk everywhere.
-lana. holly **** how can you make this girl even more dumber? well the writters have really a talent.
-clark.....kryptonite. smallville fans complaining about that in SR now when it is in SV .....nothhing. way to go my friends.

 

[AgentPat]

-clark.....kryptonite. smallville fans complaining about that in SR now when it is in SV .....nothhing. way to go my friends.

Why don't people actually *read* a thread before making a statement like this?

...they've exaggerated Clark's vulnerability to Kryptonite in this episode, another nod to SR. Wasn't it last week's episode that had Clark writhing in pain on the floor because of a meteor rock the size of someone's fist? Now, all of a sudden he's able to crawl through spaces surrounded by Kryptonite?

...about the K effects... well, they haven't been very consistent in Smallville, so I wouldn't call that a nod either.

...SV has never been consistent with the way they portray the effects of Kryptonite on Clark, unfortunately. He's actually *injested* the stuff and lived. It's dumb; I agree. But it has ZERO to do with the equally lame portrayals of K on Superman in SR. Guess we can chalk it up to artistic license, and what's required in the plot - not that it makes it right.

...Smallville in and of itself has had inconsistencies in the effects of Kryptonite on Clark. It's due to having different writers on serialized TV, it's no "nod" to SR.

As has already been pointed out, SV is notoriously inconsistent with the severity of how green K affects Clark. The green K effect is directly proportional to how disabled the story needs Clark to be.

It's a flaw of the show, which I freely admit. ...it's probably one of the biggest nitpicks of the show, next to the clichés of characters being serendipitously knocked out when Clark is doing his thing, or Lex being shot or kidnapped. That sort of stuff.

In Nemisis, Clark was weakened by the Kryptonite so much he had trouble walking. He couldn't break the chains, push rocks away, or lift a freakin' island. LOL The caves were covered with Kryptonite DUST, which was pointed out when Chloe wiped it off the shoulder of one of he rescue workers.

What people *should* be complaining about is how in the world Kryptonite would get that far underground? THAT didn't make sense, not the effects of the K *dust* on Clark.

 

[avidreader]

I think she was just saying the name of the premiere episode, which was Zod.

That's exactly what I meant.

So I'm thinking that Lana and Lionel had a big chat, but we just werent privy to what it entailed. However, I would have to think that if Lionel filled Lana in on everything, he would have had to tell her that Clark is from Krypton. This phantom must be out for revenge on Clark, and that's why Lionel and MM are trying to protect him.

 

[Captivated]

Why don't people actually *read* a thread before making a statement like this?

In Nemisis, Clark was weakened by the Kryptonite so much he had trouble walking. He couldn't break the chains, push rocks away, or lift a freakin' island. LOL The caves were covered with Kryptonite DUST, which was pointed out when Chloe wiped it off the shoulder of one of he rescue workers.

What people *should* be complaining about is how in the world Kryptonite would get that far underground? THAT didn't make sense, not the effects of the K *dust* on Clark.

You're right... how DID meteor rock get all over tunnels that were so far underground?

I was a little distracted by Lana shooting the case on a GLASS table... and the way Clark was able to walk at all, with so much Kryptonite everywhere... But I still LOVED the episode!

I have NO idea what Lionel is up too now. Was he lying to Lana, or does he know something and IS actually trying to protect Clark. He's the only one who knows that Lana knows about Clark... I wonder what he told her.

Lana obviously realizes how high the stakes are... she KNOWS Lex tricked her... and their conversation about the wedding was intense. Lana is learning a trick or too from the Luthors, but I hope she isn't too changed by this evil association.

Pretty much every scene was emotional and intense. What a great show!

 

[blksuperman2]

Well how did Kryptonite get placed in ancient artifacts located in CHina?



Hmmmmm?

 

[Migu-EL]

I knew that Lionel was trying to protect Clark by threating Lana. I didn't think that they would turn Lionel back into the MB. It would have been too predictable.


All in all Nemesis was a very entertaining and solid episode.

 

[Kebab gud]

That dude from Battlestar Galactica is Metallo (metallo is my guess)

 

[jr24tw]

I knew that Lionel was trying to protect Clark by threating Lana. I didn't think that they would turn Lionel back into the MB. It would have been too predictable.

Yeah but someone who is 100% good wouldn't feed a person to the lions. Which is what Lionel did. He knew what his son did to her. He knew what she would be trapped in. And he didn't give a damn.

 

[avidreader]

Yeah but someone who is 100% good wouldn't feed a person to the lions. Which is what Lionel did. He knew what his son did to her. He knew what she would be trapped in. And he didn't give a damn.

I think Lionel looks at the big picture and to hell with how we get there.