BvS All Things Superman and Batman: An Open Discussion - - - - - - - - - - - Part 46

[Psycho_Sith]

....looks like Glenn Danzig to me

 

[Dk1201]

so Batman is in this movie

 

[Fallen Angel]

Batwho?

 

[MrsKent26]

Well folks, I got off my couch and went to see Cap2 today. Someone asked me about my thoughts on it and people seem to be posting theirs here, so I'll post mine. In relation to DC of course just to stay somewhat on topic.

Spoiler

I'll start with the good:

The fight scenes! They were amazing. Especially the first one on the boat. Cap was fast, efficient and everything one would expect from a solider. I would actually sit there waiting for another fight scene to come on because they were so awesome. Some annoying folks came late into the movie and I felt bad for them because they missed the best part (boat scene). I hope batman fights similar to Cap in this movie. Actually, I would like it if Superman fights a bit like that too because I'm hoping they don't go the tired "supes can't fight!" route for his whole movie career. Of course, it would have to be altered because of his powers, but the point is that Cap came off as a capable fighter and that's what I want for Supes and Bats.

The main good guys were also portrayed well. Evans fits the role well and looked great. Cap is a good example of a good guy that isn't a naive dupe either. He sticks to his ideals, but is also a badass. I've heard people say this is how Superman should be portrayed and I don't disagree. I would disagree with people who think mos Supes wasn't this though. I got a similar vibe from these two characters and I reckon that's appropriate. I like how they didn't use the Avengers costume for Cap because it sucked. They went back to the good one. Black Widow was also great. I love when a female character is capable, has an actual role in the plot and is only minimally sexualized (or not at all). She was written well. As were the supporting female roles. Fury is basically Samuel Jackson playing himself, but that's not a bad thing. It works for this role.

The not-so-good:

The villains weren't that great. The winter soldier didn't seem to get enough screen time. I was excited about him when he was introduced because the introduction was badass, but he was not much more than a henchman. There wasn't much tension there. Redford wasn't threatening either. He reminded me of cliched Bond villain (as did his plot). Again...just hollow. Nothing truly menacing (except perhaps when he just offed his own housekeeper). In comparison to the Nolan Bat villains and even Zod (who wasn't quite what I'd hoped he'd be) these villains are weak. I've had this feeling with all recent Marvel villains. DC just seems to be able to do this aspect better.

The music was very generic. I barely noticed it unless I made a point to. In contrast to the Zimmer scores we've gotten with Nolan films/MOS, the music was weak. We're lucky to have Zimmer.

This may seem like an odd complaint, but I don't like how advanced human technology is in this film. Unless I'm mistaken, this is supposed to take place in current time. It seems to be either futuristic or in a world unlike ours. There are a couple examples like the virtual meetings those officials had with Redford, Widow's disguise at the end, the huge Insight hanger, the ships....that seem far, far beyond what humanity should be capable of. I prefer the way the world in the Nolan films/MOS seems like ours and thus anything fantastic stands out. It's almost like humans have similar technology to what aliens might have in a DC universe. I find it causes me to feel a little detached from the movie's universe because it's a bit outlandish with the fancy technology. I hope DC doesn't go this route when the JL is formed.

The plot was nothing special. As I said above, it was cliche. I didn't like the whole Hydra bit. It was pretty much a standard action movie plot. The dialogue and script were decent, but I didn't get much emotion from this film. There were some good lighter moments. I found that, overall, this movie had much less of that "deflate the tension" humor that I loath from Marvel. This movie definitely did better with that aspect. I don't remember a single annoying or eye-roll worthy joke. However, the dialogue wasn't particularly moving or memorable either. I wouldn't say this script was much better than MOS. I also find it curious how MOS takes heat for not having enough emotion and yet this movie has almost none. Fury seemingly dies and it had no impact. The only moment that might have been emotional was when Cap refused to fight the winter soldier. But even that...was thin.

Sometimes I think (and say) that since TDK, DC movies are judged much more harshly than Marvel movies. People just demand perfection from them. Then I talk myself out of it and think I'm just being a paranoid fangirl. But dammit if this movie didn't all but confirm this theory (for me). This movie wasn't bad. I enjoyed it overall. It did entertain me. But MOS had more tension, more emotion, better music, better villain, and a slightly worse script and it got a lot harsher reviews than this movie. To me, that's odd. Yes, MOS was flawed and deserves many of its criticisms, but this movie had just as many flaws with half the complaints. Of course that's just my opinion and some might think this film is much better than MOS and that's ok. These are just my thoughts and I think that, thanks to a standard they set, DC gets raked over the coals in ways that Marvel does not.

In summary, I liked this movie overall. I'd give it a 7/10. I'll probably buy the DVD if only for the amazing fight scenes and solid character portrayals. I did find this better than most other Marvel movies, but not quite as amazing as some have said.

 

[Guts]

I think it's annoying when people say that this movie is overcrowded, even though only seven actors have been have been added to the franchise.

 

[Charlatan]

Well folks, I got off my couch and went to see Cap2 today. Someone asked me about my thoughts on it and people seem to be posting theirs here, so I'll post mine. In relation to DC of course just to stay somewhat on topic.

Spoiler

I'll start with the good:

The fight scenes! They were amazing. Especially the first one on the boat. Cap was fast, efficient and everything one would expect from a solider. I would actually sit there waiting for another fight scene to come on because they were so awesome. Some annoying folks came late into the movie and I felt bad for them because they missed the best part (boat scene). I hope batman fights similar to Cap in this movie. Actually, I would like it if Superman fights a bit like that too because I'm hoping they don't go the tired "supes can't fight!" route for his whole movie career. Of course, it would have to be altered because of his powers, but the point is that Cap came off as a capable fighter and that's what I want for Supes and Bats.

The main good guys were also portrayed well. Evans fits the role well and looked great. Cap is a good example of a good guy that isn't a naive dupe either. He sticks to his ideals, but is also a badass. I've heard people say this is how Superman should be portrayed and I don't disagree. I would disagree with people who think mos Supes wasn't this though. I got a similar vibe from these two characters and I reckon that's appropriate. I like how they didn't use the Avengers costume for Cap because it sucked. They went back to the good one. Black Widow was also great. I love when a female character is capable, has an actual role in the plot and is only minimally sexualized (or not at all). She was written well. As were the supporting female roles. Fury is basically Samuel Jackson playing himself, but that's not a bad thing. It works for this role.

The not-so-good:

The villains weren't that great. The winter soldier didn't seem to get enough screen time. I was excited about him when he was introduced because the introduction was badass, but he was not much more than a henchman. There wasn't much tension there. Redford wasn't threatening either. He reminded me of cliched Bond villain (as did his plot). Again...just hollow. Nothing truly menacing (except perhaps when he just offed his own housekeeper). In comparison to the Nolan Bat villains and even Zod (who wasn't quite what I'd hoped he'd be) these villains are weak. I've had this feeling with all recent Marvel villains. DC just seems to be able to do this aspect better.

The music was very generic. I barely noticed it unless I made a point to. In contrast to the Zimmer scores we've gotten with Nolan films/MOS, the music was weak. We're lucky to have Zimmer.

This may seem like an odd complaint, but I don't like how advanced human technology is in this film. Unless I'm mistaken, this is supposed to take place in current time. It seems to be either futuristic or in a world unlike ours. There are a couple examples like the virtual meetings those officials had with Redford, Widow's disguise at the end, the huge Insight hanger, the ships....that seem far, far beyond what humanity should be capable of. I prefer the way the world in the Nolan films/MOS seems like ours and thus anything fantastic stands out. It's almost like humans have similar technology to what aliens might have in a DC universe. I find it causes me to feel a little detached from the movie's universe because it's a bit outlandish with the fancy technology. I hope DC doesn't go this route when the JL is formed.

The plot was nothing special. As I said above, it was cliche. I didn't like the whole Hydra bit. It was pretty much a standard action movie plot. The dialogue and script were decent, but I didn't get much emotion from this film. There were some good lighter moments. I found that, overall, this movie had much less of that "deflate the tension" humor that I loath from Marvel. This movie definitely did better with that aspect. I don't remember a single annoying or eye-roll worthy joke. However, the dialogue wasn't particularly moving or memorable either. I wouldn't say this script was much better than MOS. I also find it curious how MOS takes heat for not having enough emotion and yet this movie has almost none. Fury seemingly dies and it had no impact. The only moment that might have been emotional was when Cap refused to fight the winter soldier. But even that...was thin.

Sometimes I think (and say) that since TDK, DC movies are judged much more harshly than Marvel movies. People just demand perfection from them. Then I talk myself out of it and think I'm just being a paranoid fangirl. But dammit if this movie didn't all but confirm this theory (for me). This movie wasn't bad. I enjoyed it overall. It did entertain me. But MOS had more tension, more emotion, better music, better villain, and a slightly worse script and it got a lot harsher reviews than this movie. To me, that's odd. Yes, MOS was flawed and deserves many of its criticisms, but this movie had just as many flaws with half the complaints. Of course that's just my opinion and some might think this film is much better than MOS and that's ok. These are just my thoughts and I think that, thanks to a standard they set, DC gets raked over the coals in ways that Marvel does not.

In summary, I liked this movie overall. I'd give it a 7/10. I'll probably buy the DVD if only for the amazing fight scenes and solid character portrayals. I did find this better than most other Marvel movies, but not quite as amazing as some have said.

you're going to be disappointed by the tech in this next film then. I have a feeling that STAR Labs,LexCorp and Waynetech will have stuff that is similar to the tech of SHIELD. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that Bats will have a suit similar to Stark's waiting for a special occasion. as for holographic teleconferencing that is coming soon.

 

[Jake Cassidy]

I think it's annoying when people say that this movie is overcrowded, even though only seven actors have been have been added to the franchise.

Yeah and look who died in MOS. Jonathan, Jor-El, Lara, Zod, Faora, Hardy and Hamilton. 7. t:

 

[MrsKent26]

you're going to be disappointed by the tech in this next film then. I have a feeling that STAR Labs,LexCorp and Waynetech will have stuff that is similar to the tech of SHIELD. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that Bats will have a suit similar to Stark's waiting for a special occasion. as for holographic teleconferencing that is coming soon.

I will be disappointed then. I'm in favor of batman having classic gadgets (I want the bat plane, batmobile, grapple gun, smoke grenades, etc. to be included), but the stuff the humans have in the Marvel-verse is too much for my liking. It makes the whole universe seem like a fantasy place. I prefer the world to be like ours, but with fantasy things occurring when the heroes arrive. I like the contrast be fantastic and ordinary. Marvel is missing that. I really, really don't want batman to be like DC's Stark.

 

[RectusErectus]

Well folks, I got off my couch and went to see Cap2 today. Someone asked me about my thoughts on it and people seem to be posting theirs here, so I'll post mine. In relation to DC of course just to stay somewhat on topic.

Spoiler

I'll start with the good:

The fight scenes! They were amazing. Especially the first one on the boat. Cap was fast, efficient and everything one would expect from a solider. I would actually sit there waiting for another fight scene to come on because they were so awesome. Some annoying folks came late into the movie and I felt bad for them because they missed the best part (boat scene). I hope batman fights similar to Cap in this movie. Actually, I would like it if Superman fights a bit like that too because I'm hoping they don't go the tired "supes can't fight!" route for his whole movie career. Of course, it would have to be altered because of his powers, but the point is that Cap came off as a capable fighter and that's what I want for Supes and Bats.

The main good guys were also portrayed well. Evans fits the role well and looked great. Cap is a good example of a good guy that isn't a naive dupe either. He sticks to his ideals, but is also a badass. I've heard people say this is how Superman should be portrayed and I don't disagree. I would disagree with people who think mos Supes wasn't this though. I got a similar vibe from these two characters and I reckon that's appropriate. I like how they didn't use the Avengers costume for Cap because it sucked. They went back to the good one. Black Widow was also great. I love when a female character is capable, has an actual role in the plot and is only minimally sexualized (or not at all). She was written well. As were the supporting female roles. Fury is basically Samuel Jackson playing himself, but that's not a bad thing. It works for this role.

The not-so-good:

The villains weren't that great. The winter soldier didn't seem to get enough screen time. I was excited about him when he was introduced because the introduction was badass, but he was not much more than a henchman. There wasn't much tension there. Redford wasn't threatening either. He reminded me of cliched Bond villain (as did his plot). Again...just hollow. Nothing truly menacing (except perhaps when he just offed his own housekeeper). In comparison to the Nolan Bat villains and even Zod (who wasn't quite what I'd hoped he'd be) these villains are weak. I've had this feeling with all recent Marvel villains. DC just seems to be able to do this aspect better.

The music was very generic. I barely noticed it unless I made a point to. In contrast to the Zimmer scores we've gotten with Nolan films/MOS, the music was weak. We're lucky to have Zimmer.

This may seem like an odd complaint, but I don't like how advanced human technology is in this film. Unless I'm mistaken, this is supposed to take place in current time. It seems to be either futuristic or in a world unlike ours. There are a couple examples like the virtual meetings those officials had with Redford, Widow's disguise at the end, the huge Insight hanger, the ships....that seem far, far beyond what humanity should be capable of. I prefer the way the world in the Nolan films/MOS seems like ours and thus anything fantastic stands out. It's almost like humans have similar technology to what aliens might have in a DC universe. I find it causes me to feel a little detached from the movie's universe because it's a bit outlandish with the fancy technology. I hope DC doesn't go this route when the JL is formed.

The plot was nothing special. As I said above, it was cliche. I didn't like the whole Hydra bit. It was pretty much a standard action movie plot. The dialogue and script were decent, but I didn't get much emotion from this film. There were some good lighter moments. I found that, overall, this movie had much less of that "deflate the tension" humor that I loath from Marvel. This movie definitely did better with that aspect. I don't remember a single annoying or eye-roll worthy joke. However, the dialogue wasn't particularly moving or memorable either. I wouldn't say this script was much better than MOS. I also find it curious how MOS takes heat for not having enough emotion and yet this movie has almost none. Fury seemingly dies and it had no impact. The only moment that might have been emotional was when Cap refused to fight the winter soldier. But even that...was thin.

Sometimes I think (and say) that since TDK, DC movies are judged much more harshly than Marvel movies. People just demand perfection from them. Then I talk myself out of it and think I'm just being a paranoid fangirl. But dammit if this movie didn't all but confirm this theory (for me). This movie wasn't bad. I enjoyed it overall. It did entertain me. But MOS had more tension, more emotion, better music, better villain, and a slightly worse script and it got a lot harsher reviews than this movie. To me, that's odd. Yes, MOS was flawed and deserves many of its criticisms, but this movie had just as many flaws with half the complaints. Of course that's just my opinion and some might think this film is much better than MOS and that's ok. These are just my thoughts and I think that, thanks to a standard they set, DC gets raked over the coals in ways that Marvel does not.

In summary, I liked this movie overall. I'd give it a 7/10. I'll probably buy the DVD if only for the amazing fight scenes and solid character portrayals. I did find this better than most other Marvel movies, but not quite as amazing as some have said.

You shouldn't really get too held up on the technology in comic book films. They're living in a world where a guy can build an exoskeleton in a cave....



WITH A BOX OF SCRAPS!!!

 

[DA_Champion]

You shouldn't really get too held up on the technology in comic book films. They're living in a world where a guy can build an exoskeleton in a cave....



WITH A BOX OF SCRAPS!!!

Or build 52 distinct suits in one year while battling depression.

 

[Leevor]

The almost futuristic technology in the MCU definitely gives it a fantastic comic-book/sci-fi feel, and I actually think it kind of makes sense. In a world where geniuses like Tony Stark, Hank Pym and presumably Reed Richards exist, that's just the kind of technological advancement you'd expect.

 

[MrsKent26]

^ Well, Marvel can keep it. I just don't want the DCU adapting that. The Marvel universe is not much like ours.

 

[Leevor]

It's pretty much inevitable that some advanced technology will be in the DCCU too, though. If this universe continues to evolve, we're presumably going to have the Watchtower, Boom Tubes, androids, etc.

I also want it to be at least aesthetically more grounded than the MCCU, but either way, the DCCU is not going to stay like our universe for long.

 

[Micromind]

Well folks, I got off my couch and went to see Cap2 today. Someone asked me about my thoughts on it and people seem to be posting theirs here, so I'll post mine. In relation to DC of course just to stay somewhat on topic.

Spoiler

I'll start with the good:

The fight scenes! They were amazing. Especially the first one on the boat. Cap was fast, efficient and everything one would expect from a solider. I would actually sit there waiting for another fight scene to come on because they were so awesome. Some annoying folks came late into the movie and I felt bad for them because they missed the best part (boat scene). I hope batman fights similar to Cap in this movie. Actually, I would like it if Superman fights a bit like that too because I'm hoping they don't go the tired "supes can't fight!" route for his whole movie career. Of course, it would have to be altered because of his powers, but the point is that Cap came off as a capable fighter and that's what I want for Supes and Bats.

The main good guys were also portrayed well. Evans fits the role well and looked great. Cap is a good example of a good guy that isn't a naive dupe either. He sticks to his ideals, but is also a badass. I've heard people say this is how Superman should be portrayed and I don't disagree. I would disagree with people who think mos Supes wasn't this though. I got a similar vibe from these two characters and I reckon that's appropriate. I like how they didn't use the Avengers costume for Cap because it sucked. They went back to the good one. Black Widow was also great. I love when a female character is capable, has an actual role in the plot and is only minimally sexualized (or not at all). She was written well. As were the supporting female roles. Fury is basically Samuel Jackson playing himself, but that's not a bad thing. It works for this role.

The not-so-good:

The villains weren't that great. The winter soldier didn't seem to get enough screen time. I was excited about him when he was introduced because the introduction was badass, but he was not much more than a henchman. There wasn't much tension there. Redford wasn't threatening either. He reminded me of cliched Bond villain (as did his plot). Again...just hollow. Nothing truly menacing (except perhaps when he just offed his own housekeeper). In comparison to the Nolan Bat villains and even Zod (who wasn't quite what I'd hoped he'd be) these villains are weak. I've had this feeling with all recent Marvel villains. DC just seems to be able to do this aspect better.

The music was very generic. I barely noticed it unless I made a point to. In contrast to the Zimmer scores we've gotten with Nolan films/MOS, the music was weak. We're lucky to have Zimmer.

This may seem like an odd complaint, but I don't like how advanced human technology is in this film. Unless I'm mistaken, this is supposed to take place in current time. It seems to be either futuristic or in a world unlike ours. There are a couple examples like the virtual meetings those officials had with Redford, Widow's disguise at the end, the huge Insight hanger, the ships....that seem far, far beyond what humanity should be capable of. I prefer the way the world in the Nolan films/MOS seems like ours and thus anything fantastic stands out. It's almost like humans have similar technology to what aliens might have in a DC universe. I find it causes me to feel a little detached from the movie's universe because it's a bit outlandish with the fancy technology. I hope DC doesn't go this route when the JL is formed.

The plot was nothing special. As I said above, it was cliche. I didn't like the whole Hydra bit. It was pretty much a standard action movie plot. The dialogue and script were decent, but I didn't get much emotion from this film. There were some good lighter moments. I found that, overall, this movie had much less of that "deflate the tension" humor that I loath from Marvel. This movie definitely did better with that aspect. I don't remember a single annoying or eye-roll worthy joke. However, the dialogue wasn't particularly moving or memorable either. I wouldn't say this script was much better than MOS. I also find it curious how MOS takes heat for not having enough emotion and yet this movie has almost none. Fury seemingly dies and it had no impact. The only moment that might have been emotional was when Cap refused to fight the winter soldier. But even that...was thin.

Sometimes I think (and say) that since TDK, DC movies are judged much more harshly than Marvel movies. People just demand perfection from them. Then I talk myself out of it and think I'm just being a paranoid fangirl. But dammit if this movie didn't all but confirm this theory (for me). This movie wasn't bad. I enjoyed it overall. It did entertain me. But MOS had more tension, more emotion, better music, better villain, and a slightly worse script and it got a lot harsher reviews than this movie. To me, that's odd. Yes, MOS was flawed and deserves many of its criticisms, but this movie had just as many flaws with half the complaints. Of course that's just my opinion and some might think this film is much better than MOS and that's ok. These are just my thoughts and I think that, thanks to a standard they set, DC gets raked over the coals in ways that Marvel does not.

In summary, I liked this movie overall. I'd give it a 7/10. I'll probably buy the DVD if only for the amazing fight scenes and solid character portrayals. I did find this better than most other Marvel movies, but not quite as amazing as some have said.

Great review ! Pretty much sums up my views on CA: TWS.

I don't think that suddenly BvS will get some high tech movie tone as Snyder has established a "real world" feel to Metropolis.

 

[IncognitoWalrus]

I remember people thought a while back that all the destruction in Metropolis would allow LexCorp to rebuild it as a more futuristic city.

 

[Jekecy]

^ Well, Marvel can keep it. I just don't want the DCU adapting that. The Marvel universe is not much like ours.

It's not really Marvel's to hold. You open up any bat-title from the past decade or so, and Wayne is in possession of incredibly advanced tech at his disposal. That's the nature of a billionaire who constantly seeks to improve his arsenal.

I don't believe we'll get anything approaching full-blown futuristic sci-fi. But I fully expect tech being utilized which is "not too distant in the future".

 

[Invader34]

Without MCU style technology I'm not sure how Batman would survive the potential throw down he's supposed to have with Superman. If the fight does happen in the movie they're gonna need some decent fantasy level tech to suggest Bats thought he might actually stand a chance against the super powered alien.

 

[sportjames23]

I will be disappointed then. I'm in favor of batman having classic gadgets (I want the bat plane, batmobile, grapple gun, smoke grenades, etc. to be included), but the stuff the humans have in the Marvel-verse is too much for my liking. It makes the whole universe seem like a fantasy place. I prefer the world to be like ours, but with fantasy things occurring when the heroes arrive. I like the contrast be fantastic and ordinary. Marvel is missing that. I really, really don't want batman to be like DC's Stark.

It's ironic that, back in the day, Marvel Comics were said to be more realistic/grounded in reality than DC Comics. Marvel's characters were said to be more relatable than DC's godlike characters. Ooh, and Marvel had the real NYC, even though DC has NYC, too--and Marvel has just as many fictional cities/countries as DC (can you find Latveria, the Savage Land or Wakanda on a map?) It's an argument I never bought into, but that was said for years.

The irony to me is that now, Marvel's movies seem to go for the more fantastic elements, whereas WB's (not DC--WB makes the movies) comic book movies tend to be more character driven and have less fantastic elements than their counterparts. Sure, Man of Steel had much action and special effects, but it seemed to be more tempered than what Marvel has produced. I'm not saying one is better than the other, as I actually enjoy what both studios are producing and I like that they have different styles.

Over on the Marvel movie board, there's a discussion 2003's Hulk, and why it didn't fare as well as current Marvel movies have. I saw it when it first came out (haven't seen it in a while, though), but from what I remember, it was more grounded and character driven than later Marvel efforts. Thinking back on it, seems like Hulk was more like WB's output than a Marvel movie. And come to think of it, Green Lantern felt more like a Marvel movie than a WB movie. Heh.

 

[DA_Champion]

Thinking back on it, seems like Hulk was more like WB's output than a Marvel movie. And come to think of it, Green Lantern felt more like a Marvel movie than a WB movie. Heh.

Agreed.

 

[Micromind]

Without MCU style technology I'm not sure how Batman would survive the potential throw down he's supposed to have with Superman. If the fight does happen in the movie they're gonna need some decent fantasy level tech to suggest Bats thought he might actually stand a chance against the super powered alien.

Batman should not elevate himself to powers level of Superman which will be very difficult), rather Batman should fins means to de-power Superman before fighting with him.

But, my guess is that Batman will do neither in the movie, he will put psychological pressure on Superman and defeat him, mental games.

 

[MrsKent26]

It's ironic that, back in the day, Marvel Comics were said to be more realistic/grounded in reality than DC Comics. Marvel's characters were said to be more relatable than DC's godlike characters. Ooh, and Marvel had the real NYC, even though DC has NYC, too--and Marvel has just as many fictional cities/countries as DC (can you find Latveria, the Savage Land or Wakanda on a map?) It's an argument I never bought into, but that was said for years.

The irony to me is that now, Marvel's movies seem to go for the more fantastic elements, whereas WB's (not DC--WB makes the movies) comic book movies tend to be more character driven and have less fantastic elements than their counterparts. Sure, Man of Steel had much action and special effects, but it seemed to be more tempered than what Marvel has produced. I'm not saying one is better than the other, as I actually enjoy what both studios are producing and I like that they have different styles.

Over on the Marvel movie board, there's a discussion 2003's Hulk, and why it didn't fare as well as current Marvel movies have. I saw it when it first came out (haven't seen it in a while, though), but from what I remember, it was more grounded and character driven than later Marvel efforts. Thinking back on it, seems like Hulk was more like WB's output than a Marvel movie. And come to think of it, Green Lantern felt more like a Marvel movie than a WB movie. Heh.

I like the grounded approached more. I know that the current fad is to hate that word, but I don't care. There are a few reasons why I usually prefer DC movies and their current trend of grounding things just a bit is one of them. They still add fantasy, but it's contrasted with reality. I find the contrast striking and easier for me to immerse myself in. I find all the extensive shots of huge technology more suited to alien life than humans. It's not that humans shouldn't have technology and I expect batman too, but I really hope they don't go wild with it. It makes things less interesting.

I agree about Hulk and GL too.

 

[D.P.]

And come to think of it, Green Lantern felt more like a Marvel movie than a WB movie. Heh.

It probably would have been less criticized if it was a Marvel movie too.

 

[FeedOnATreeFrog]

i dont know about that. MCU fans talk about IM2 like it was as bad as Fantasic Four or something.

That being said, if GL was a MCU movie, there would be a lot of comments about how Marvel has a movie about talking fish aliens before WB could get a WW on screen

 

[T"Challa]

It probably would have been less criticized if it was a Marvel movie too.

B.S. Green Lantern got crap reviews because it was a crap movie. Audiences hated it as well and it flopped at the box office as a result. It didn't satisfy any demographic on a large enoght scale.

Critics don't have some vendetta against DC movies, a lot of these critics have been reviewing movies for decades and they've seen the best and the worst of these big blockbusters. Most of them don't give a s*** about Marvel or DC. They just review the film for what it is and give their opinion

 

[snpklsdmbldr]

I honestly I don't want them to introduce Kryptonite at all. it's the most convenient, easy and abused way of harming Superman. but if they are going to use it, it should somehow de-power him a bit but not completely, unlike in Superman Returns where it made Supes a complete wuss yet he was able to lift a huge Kryptonite island. it's very contradicting.