BvS All Things Superman and Batman: An Open Discussion - Part 96

[DarkSentinel]

You dont see him inhale, but he smokes. Its in the pilot.

So...they can show him smoking if they edit properly? Novel, I guess.

Pointless. But novel.

 

[dhandler01]

It's lame and tired isn't it? The circle of life on the SuperheroHype message board forums....and it seems to the same people also. It's madness...

Oh well:

(not saying anyone is hating just love that gif)

Off topic but in the past 6 months my gf has bought me a sweet Superman shirt, a Bizarro one, Aquaman, Batman and just the other day The Flash! I am a One Man Justice League

 

[ЯɘvlveR]

Your comment about Goyer is interesting because for a time people thought Goyer was going to be the go-to guy for WB when it comes to all their superhero projects. But the turnaround has been swift in public opinion.

regarding goyer's place with wb, i wouldn't say he's out of the picture completely, but if there's one thing people who are against affleck should thank him is for that. he musts've read that script and thought it was ****. he seemed poised to be wb's go to guy because of nolan's bats, the ironic thing is he seems to have been usurped by the guy nolan had initially asked to direct man of steel, who seems to take after him in some aspects as a film maker in affleck.

I'd rather affleck holds their hand with the mosverse than goyer's dicksplashing ass.

 

[dhandler01]

So...they can show him smoking if they edit properly? Novel, I guess.

Pointless. But novel.

IIRC it is an NBC thing...trust me though it is obvious he smoked when you watch the pilot. (its near the end fyi) I enjoyed the hell out of the pilot

 

[Tv's Phil]

I don't consider myself dumb or lowest common denominator, I don't have incredibly high standards though, but I've never been able to wrap my head around the idea that so many people have such high standards for acting.
I mean, if you can give a line reading better than the average person and show any standard emotion, and most actors on network TV can, then the performance should blend into the production as part of the whole.
It's just rarely ever a thing that's an issue when watching something. Only if I'm watching a flat out B movie.

That's why I just don't get how many people claim a performance in a network or movie production is "cringe worthy" or embarrassing or just bad. They're generally average at worst to me. I just don't ever see bad that much if at all.
It doesn't mean they're all award winners but they're not outside the human ability to believably say lines and fake emotion.


I like to think more people are like me though.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

I'm guessing that Goyer is not only still going to get a writing credit of some kind for the actual finished film of BvS, and not only get a producing credit, but that all this talk of him being "demoted" is the usual fanboy projection and that he'll have a credit of some kind on every big screen DCE project for the next few years. Seriously... Who is actually talking about the "swift turnaround" of opinion on David Goyer other than the whiney asses on internet forums?

 

[ЯɘvlveR]

I'm guessing that Goyer is not only still going to get a writing credit of some kind for the actual finished film of BvS, and not only get a producing credit, but that all this talk of him being "demoted" is the usual fanboy projection and that he'll have a credit of some kind on every big screen DCE project for the next few years. Seriously... Who is actually talking about the "swift turnaround" of opinion on David Goyer other than the whiney asses on internet forums?

who else should be talking about it? he's a ****** writer not a hacker who released celebrity nudes. and i wouldn't so sure they'll be that indebted to him after all that nonsense he said about martian manhunter and she hulk.

 

[zryson]

I don't consider myself dumb or lowest common denominator, I don't have incredibly high standards though, but I've never been able to wrap my head around the idea that so many people have such high standards for acting.
I mean, if you can give a line reading better than the average person and show any standard emotion, and most actors on network TV can, then the performance should blend into the production as part of the whole.
It's just rarely ever a thing that's an issue when watching something. Only if I'm watching a flat out B movie.

That's why I just don't get how many people claim a performance in a network or movie production is "cringe worthy" or embarrassing or just bad. They're generally average at worst to me. I just don't ever see bad that much if at all.

There is lots of bad acting in the world of entertainment as any trip through the vast history of sci-fi or horror demonstrates in equal measure. And bad acting can impact upon the movie greatly. Especially when an actor is cast as the leading star, to carry the movie. Some people have it (talent) and others dont.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

who else should be talking about it? he's a ****** writer not a hacker who released celebrity nudes. and i wouldn't so sure they'll be that indebted to him after all that nonsense he said about martian manhunter and she hulk.

I have no idea what celebrity nudes and David Goyer have in common in the least, nor do I want to know why you do think they have anything in common.

Who talks like this? "Indebted"? You're right. He's a film maker involved with a genre we all like. No one was talking about giving up our first born to him.

The point is, the talk of him being "demoted" comes from no place but the fevered minds of the fanboy community online. His script was given a re-write by Terrio. David's a big boy that has been involved with film making for some time now. It's probably not the first time this has happened to him, not due to quality, but because that's the process of making Hollywood product.

As for comments about characters... He doesn't like J'onn and he said something about She-Hulk? So... He as a creative person can't talk about his druthers when it comes to the genre EVER? But you and I can here on the home of the whiny ass fanboy? I seem to remember that Joss Whedon, whose work on FIREFLY/SERENITY, ASTONISHING X-MEN and AVENGERS I loved BTW, said he had no use for Wonder Man, yet no crying and gnashing of teeth was heard.

 

[zryson]

regarding goyer's place with wb, i wouldn't say he's out of the picture completely, but if there's one thing people who are against affleck should thank him is for that. he musts've read that script and thought it was ****. he seemed poised to be wb's go to guy because of nolan's bats, the ironic thing is he seems to have been usurped by the guy nolan had initially asked to direct man of steel, who seems to take after him in some aspects as a film maker in affleck.

I'd rather affleck holds their hand with the mosverse than goyer's dicksplashing ass.

I dont think Goyer is out of the picture completely (he is still involved with BvS after all) but I do think its great Affleck brought in Terrio to look over the script, and change it. No doubt it needed improvement.

 

[NoLaNitE007]

Oh well:

(not saying anyone is hating just love that gif)

Off topic but in the past 6 months my gf has bought me a sweet Superman shirt, a Bizarro one, Aquaman, Batman and just the other day The Flash! I am a One Man Justice League

 

[NoLaNitE007]

I have no idea what celebrity nudes and David Goyer have in common in the least, nor do I want to know why you do think they have anything in common.

Who talks like this? "Indebted"? You're right. He's a film maker involved with a genre we all like. No one was talking about giving up our first born to him.

The point is, the talk of him being "demoted" comes from no place but the fevered minds of the fanboy community online. His script was given a re-write by Terrio. David's a big boy that has been involved with film making for some time now. It's probably not the first time this has happened to him, not due to quality, but because that's the process of making Hollywood product.

As for comments about characters... He doesn't like J'onn and he said something about She-Hulk? So... He as a creative person can't talk about his druthers when it comes to the genre EVER? But you and I can here on the home of the whiny ass fanboy? I seem to remember that Joss Whedon, whose work on FIREFLY/SERENITY, ASTONISHING X-MEN and AVENGERS I loved BTW, said he had no use for Wonder Man, yet no crying and gnashing of teeth was heard.

You maybe my new best buddy in here....

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

You maybe my new best buddy in here....

HA. Well, c'mon. It's the truth. We might as well have T-Shirts with the Hype logo made up with that in quotes on the back: SUPERHEROHYPE FORUMS "Home of the Whiny Ass Fanboy!"

 

[NoLaNitE007]

Oh well:

(not saying anyone is hating just love that gif)

Off topic but in the past 6 months my gf has bought me a sweet Superman shirt, a Bizarro one, Aquaman, Batman and just the other day The Flash! I am a One Man Justice League

 

[Ultra Nolanite]

I don't consider myself dumb or lowest common denominator, I don't have incredibly high standards though, but I've never been able to wrap my head around the idea that so many people have such high standards for acting.
I mean, if you can give a line reading better than the average person and show any standard emotion, and most actors on network TV can, then the performance should blend into the production as part of the whole.
It's just rarely ever a thing that's an issue when watching something. Only if I'm watching a flat out B movie.

That's why I just don't get how many people claim a performance in a network or movie production is "cringe worthy" or embarrassing or just bad. They're generally average at worst to me. I just don't ever see bad that much if at all.
It doesn't mean they're all award winners but they're not outside the human ability to believably say lines and fake emotion.


I like to think more people are like me though.

I know exactly what you mean. Sometimes people just completely bury and actor like Stephen Amell in Arrow and I just scratch my head going "Are my standards really that low ? Because I thought it was pretty decent to good"

And people are just ripping this dude up. I dunno, I don't need to be driven to tears everytime an actor opens his or her mouth I guess.

 

[ЯɘvlveR]

I have no idea what celebrity nudes and David Goyer have in common in the least, nor do I want to know why you do think they have anything in common.

i made a comparison to your query. figure it out.

Who talks like this? "Indebted"?

people talk like that. i promise you it's an actual word.

The point is, the talk of him being "demoted" comes from no place but the fevered minds of the fanboy community online. His script was given a re-write by Terrio. David's a big boy that has been involved with film making for some time now. It's probably not the first time this has happened to him, not due to quality, but because that's the process of making Hollywood product.

he was the script writer initially. apparently, his script got rewritten. that sounds like a demotion.

As for comments about characters... He doesn't like J'onn and he said something about She-Hulk? So... He as a creative person can't talk about his druthers when it comes to the genre EVER? But you and I can here on the home of the whiny ass fanboy? I seem to remember that Joss Whedon, whose work on FIREFLY/SERENITY, ASTONISHING X-MEN and AVENGERS I loved BTW, said he had no use for Wonder Man, yet no crying and gnashing of teeth was heard.

neither you or I get paid for doing his kind of work (that i know of anyway) how is a legitimate comparison? and yeah, he's a creative person. probably the first in history who's had detractors for his art, since the critiquing of art had been an alien concept till we arrived at the 21st century, where the ssh boards were born.

what whedon said about wonder man doesn't compare to what goyer said about she-hulk.

 

[ЯɘvlveR]

HA. Well, c'mon. It's the truth. We might as well have T-Shirts with the Hype logo made up with that in quotes on the back: SUPERHEROHYPE FORUMS "Home of the Whiny Ass Fanboy!"

so long as there's a t-shirt for his arch enemy, the "old guy complaining about the kids skateboarding on the sidewalk".

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

I think it's fair to say, even with differing tastes taken into account, that for many a role or even certain genres or film tones, that yes, acting is important to the finished product, and that also, there ARE differing levels of quality when it comes to acting. Arnell is an acceptable to good actor to my eyes. The chick that plays Laurel on ARROW? She's horrible.

I mean, there's a big reason that you don't see many of the teen stars of NICK or DISNEY live action shows go on to greater things. They were acceptable as child actors in frankly, mediocre material. Once that time of their lives passes and they are being considered for parts against people with greater talent, they fall by the way side. Now, does every actor, especially in CBM or superhero projects of any kind, have to always be Streep/Lewis level? No. Sometimes for entertainment purposes you don't need a deep method approach or the like. But I'd dare say many people would point out that there are differences of performance from actors and that they do make or break many a show or film.

 

[ЯɘvlveR]

some actors are only as good as the script.

dicksplash! that line was so bad that the bus popped a tire and tried to commit suicide whilst filled with a bunch of kids.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Because... Kids never say stupid **** like "dicksplash"? Especially those between a certain age, say 11 to 16? Before replying, really think about the stupid ****, the odd words, phrases and sayings that you and your buddies came up with when you were that age.


No, of course... I forget, every one and their friends were Kurt muthacussin' Vonnegut when they were kids.

 

[ЯɘvlveR]

I'm just bustin your balls relax.

 

[Chip Chipperson]

So we're getting a deadpool movie in February 2016 and BvS comes out a month later

What a time to be alive.

 

[Black Narcissus]

A solo WW film will be a tough act for WB. My fear is that the studio will change Diana to make her modern but will do away with the elements which have made her endure for so many decades. As for the Flash, looking at the terrible costume they gave the new actor in the TV series, I'm not really hopeful of WB pulling off a solo Flash movie either. If they couldnt make GL work, the chances are slim they can make a successful franchise out of The Flash.

How does this make any sense? You fear a lot of things, friend.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

How does this make any sense? You fear a lot of things, friend.

The Z-Man's response will be:

A. Totally unconnected to anything you actually wrote and somehow segue into something about toy tie-ins or be another dig at WB and/or MOS.

B. A mini-tirade about how because the costume is not exactly like the comic book that it's too much of a deviation from the source. He will then, two posts later talk about how the Flash has to be an alien if he has super powers. This will make his statement about how things should be like the comics appear strange to say the least.

C. An inane recounting of how movie studios create films to make money and how they hope to capitalize on current trends to do so, but he'll word it as though somehow this is the first time anyone has thought of this obvious line of thinking.

 

[zryson]

some actors are only as good as the script.

dicksplash! that line was so bad that the bus popped a tire and tried to commit suicide whilst filled with a bunch of kids.

When it comes to superhero movies/shows, the acting tends to be a mixed bag. Some actors really deliver incredible performances, while others tend to give confused weak performances.