Arrow Arrow General Discussion Thread - Part 10

[Matt.S99]

Huntress, BC, Nyssa, and Felicity. Yaaaa!!

Will Nyssa "disown" her father and try to distance herself from the LOA?

 

[Nathan]

I wonder how they'll redeem Helena. I can see Nyssa stopping with the killing, just to honor Sara's wish. But Helena is completely unpredictable, and has really no code of conduct.

And someone get on photoshop already. I need a Birds of Prey Poster with Sara, Nyssa, Helena and Felicity.

 

[Matt.S99]

Helena has always been a bit unpredictable on on her own agenda in the comics. Just not as radical as Arrows version. She's pretty stone cold in Arrow.

Also I know people don't really want to see more Batman villains but I'd like to see Ivy. Tho it may be really similar to count vertigo, she can use some sort of toxin to control people and explain how she has built an immunity to them over time.

 

[Shikamaru]

They should avoid using Batman villains IMO. Let Green Arrow stand on his own. I still think doing Ra's can be a bit of a problem down the line (which isn't a problem at the moment, though).

 

[sebandres23]

I seriously doubt Gotham will be apart of the Arrowverse. Unless, of course, Gotham is set in the 80s/90s, which would be pretty interesting.

 

[Loki882]

The problem with GA is that he doesn't really have much of a rogue's gallery in the comics. He has his sort-of rivalry with Merlyn, Count Vertigo, and that's kind of it. The show almost has to pull from other areas of the DCU. Flash, on the other hand, doesn't have to do this as much because he has a pretty large and established rogue's gallery.

 

[Nathan]

I'm fine with the lesser known Batman villains appearing on the show, or those that are basically C-D level villains.

The one villain I would like to see, though I don't know if the character is actually strictly associated wit Batman, would be Copperhead.

 

[Shikamaru]

The problem with GA is that he doesn't really have much of a rogue's gallery in the comics. He has his sort-of rivalry with Merlyn, Count Vertigo, and that's kind of it. The show almost has to pull from other areas of the DCU. Flash, on the other hand, doesn't have to do this as much because he has a pretty large and established rogue's gallery.

Yeah, but I think using the really well known Batman villains would be a mistake. Especially since GA has a history of being known as just a poor man's Batman. Characters like Firefly and Deadshot aren't a problem (plus Deadshot isn't just a Batman villain), but using someone like Poison Ivy wouldn't be a good idea.

I would like to see more takes similar to Deathstroke. He was never much of a Green Arrow villain, but he really feels like a GA villain in this show. Him and Merlyn are technically the only true "rogues gallery" that GA has in this show (also Blood but he works for Deathstroke).

 

[Infinity9999x]

Yeah, but I think using the really well known Batman villains would be a mistake. Especially since GA has a history of being known as just a poor man's Batman. Characters like Firefly and Deadshot aren't a problem (plus Deadshot isn't just a Batman villain), but using someone like Poison Ivy wouldn't be a good idea.

I would like to see more takes similar to Deathstroke. He was never much of a Green Arrow villain, but he really feels like a GA villain in this show. Him and Merlyn are technically the only true "rogues gallery" that GA has in this show (also Blood but he works for Deathstroke).

Agreed. I've really enjoyed what they're doing with the LOA on Arrow so far, but if Ra's shows up and Batman doesn't in Arrow, I'll be annoyed. You just don't do Ra's without Batman being involved in some way. That's akin to having Doc Ock show up on the new Daredevil tv series without referencing Spider-man. (Yes, I know the two properties can't intermingle, but I'm just using this as an example).

Ra's is one of the biggest rouge's in Batman's gallery. They're going to have to acknowledge the connection.

 

[hopeless]

Just a thought but what if Ra's brings back Tommy to become the Red Hood?

He has that Lazarus Pit after all and if they're going to introduce powers why not a mythical series of locations that allow the dead to be revived after all he's chasing after Malcolm and who better to use against him than Malcolm's own son?

 

[Shikamaru]

Agreed. I've really enjoyed what they're doing with the LOA on Arrow so far, but if Ra's shows up and Batman doesn't in Arrow, I'll be annoyed. You just don't do Ra's without Batman being involved in some way. That's akin to having Doc Ock show up on the new Daredevil tv series without referencing Spider-man. (Yes, I know the two properties can't intermingle, but I'm just using this as an example).

Ra's is one of the biggest rouge's in Batman's gallery. They're going to have to acknowledge the connection.

I agree. I hope they acknowledge the connection in some way. I'll be happy enough with a single line such as "The detective is busy doing this other thing so this is the perfect time to strike". Or even say Batman is "dead" or missing, without him ever appearing except for maybe a cameo after Ollie defeats Ra's.

 

[Infinity9999x]

Just a thought but what if Ra's brings back Tommy to become the Red Hood?

He has that Lazarus Pit after all and if they're going to introduce powers why not a mythical series of locations that allow the dead to be revived after all he's chasing after Malcolm and who better to use against him than Malcolm's own son?

I don't mind the idea of Tommy coming back, but not as the Red Hood. Firstly, the Red Hood is strictly a Batman villain, a villain with close emotional and personal ties to Batman, and he should stay that way. Secondly, this show doesn't need to add any more Batman villains, unless it decides to start having Batman pop up in it now and then.

 

[Ultra Nolanite]

There was this villain called Magpie in Beware the Batman.

Since they axed that show Arrow should take her, she was great.

 

[Matt.S99]

 

[Shikamaru]

There was this villain called Magpie in Beware the Batman.

Since they axed that show Arrow should take her, she was great.

Magpie could work. She wasn't a Batman villain though.

 

[Silver Surfer]

The show could just create new villains, Batman Beyond was awesome at it.

 

[Nathan]

Sweet. Helena definitely needs an update though. Next to Sara and Nyssa, she doesn't really look all that special. The comic influences are way too subdued.

 

[Matt.S99]

I think if they make the cross on her jacket white/off white, it will stand out more.

 

[Matt.S99]

Magpie could work. She wasn't a Batman villain though.

Was that the villain based off of Gaga? She was pretty cool.

 

[Nathan]

I think if they make the cross on her jacket white/off white, it will stand out more.

I think the purple also needs to be more visible. With Deathstroke having obvious blue armor and orange accents, and Nyssa having lots of clearly visible red, there's no excuse anymore that Huntress looks almost black, unless she has a bright light shining on her.

More purple and a white cross, would definitely help to make it looks less bland. But I still hope for a minor update. She's been gone for a while. Her costume could have gotten damaged over time.

 

[Human Torch]

Personally,I could do without more Nyssa,especially as a member of the BOP.

 

[Matt.S99]

I think for what it is it's a cool costume and I like that they did incorporate purple and the cross. They just need to be more visible. I also like how her eye makeup is purple and not just black.

 

[Rorschach2012]

Helena has always been a bit unpredictable on on her own agenda in the comics. Just not as radical as Arrows version. She's pretty stone cold in Arrow.

Also I know people don't really want to see more Batman villains but I'd like to see Ivy. Tho it may be really similar to count vertigo, she can use some sort of toxin to control people and explain how she has built an immunity to them over time.

if they're going to do Ivy on tv, save her for the Gotham show

 

[Nathan]

What other Birds could you see eventually showing up on the show? Lady Blackhawk would be an easy character. I still want Katana. Vixen would be pretty neat too. Her powers seem to be simple enough, to be pulled off on TV.

 

[Rorschach2012]

Edit... my theory doesn't make sense now that i think about it..