Arrow Arrow General Discussion Thread - - - - - - - - - - Part 24

[antsman41]

The drama would be a bit undercut knowing that Darhk can't hurt her.

Since they healed her, or whatever they did this last episode... doesn't that negate her blocking ability against him?

 

[Supernova]

So the complain is no build up to William or how malcolm knows. Why does it matter? So much negative

Not negative just honest complaints of out of left field revelations put in there last minute.

Good example, season 1 of the flash, they showed us Harrison wells doing evil reverse flash things that could have been shown off screen but they still did it to build tension for what he might do with certain knowledge. if were going by common sense here and rules set up then only moira, Oliver and the girl knew she was pregnant, Moira paid off Oliver's girlfriend in a secret meeting at her house with a check the girlfriend never cashed so there technically wasn't a record of payout to be tracked by anyone.

Its just simple story telling that could really help setup potential drama for a show sorely lacking it for a season and a half now. that's why I said earlier if there going to waste time with felicity and her boring parents they could do something to setup Malcolm finding out and deciding to use or not use Oliver's secret against him depending on how there relationship played out.

 

[SpideyVille]

I'm more curious as to why Malcolm didn't just tell Damien that Oliver was the Green Arrow.

 

[Arrowshieldfan]

Telling Darhk about oliver is GA means thea will be target too
It similar to blood and slade where blood have no idea who The arrow is. He only knows slade want revenge

 

[Slade W]

Telling Darhk about oliver is GA means thea will be target too
It similar to blood and slade where blood have no idea who The arrow is. He only knows slade want revenge

Perhaps it could backfire on poor old Malcolm. If Darhk finds out who the boys father is, he could also target Thea. That would be two of Malcom's children dead because of his actions.

 

[superboy13]

Telling Darhk about oliver is GA means thea will be target too

Um... why? Darhk is already targeting Oliver Queen, the man. Thea is his sister. Seems she's already a target. In fact, Malcolm giving him the William intel can even protect Thea from being a target herself.

 

[Arrowshieldfan]

Maybe Malcolm will tell darhk the identity of GA but in exchange for something. Malcolm will want something big in return like healing his hand, helping with Vandal ash.

 

[superboy13]

Maybe Malcolm will tell darhk the identity of GA but in exchange for something. Malcolm will want something big in return like healing his hand, helping with Vandal ash.

Doubtful. Darhk doesn't really consider Green Arrow a threat, as evidenced by their latest encounter. If anything, Ollie is more of a threat to him.

 

[BlueLanternKal]

Honestly, I'm more concerned with the consequences of disbanding the League. Off top, there's going to be an influx of hitmen and assassins for hire on the black market. But in all his lunacy, I'm wondering if there's something to what Malcolm said. Allegedly, the League has kept global corruption in check for hundreds of years. Now that they're gone whose going to fill that vacuum?

They have also been fighting Darhk and HIVE for almost 200 years. I don't know. While Nyssa's heart may have been in the right place I'm starting to think she made a mistake.

Edit: After some more thinking they're basically an order of season 1 Olivers operating on a global scale. Yeah, even if Malcolm's the bad guy I can almost forsee an "I told you so" coming from him down the line.

 

[SpideyVille]

Honestly, I'm more concerned with the consequences of disbanding the League. Off top, there's going to be an influx of hitmen and assassins for hire on the black market. But in all his lunacy, I'm wondering if there's something to what Malcolm said. Allegedly, the League has kept global corruption in check for hundreds of years. Now that they're gone whose going to fill that vacuum?

They have also been fighting Darhk and HIVE for almost 200 years. I don't know. While Nyssa's heart may have been in the right place I'm starting to think she made a mistake.

Edit: After some more thing they're basically an order of season 1 Oliver operating on a global scale. Yeah, even if Malcolm's the bad guy I can almost forsee an "I told you so" coming from him down the line.

They weren't all bad though. We saw with Maseo, and even Malcolm when he first joined, that they were normally people looking for something bigger to believe in, and to restart. They basically gave their old lives away, and now they have them back.

 

[Slade W]

Honestly, I'm more concerned with the consequences of disbanding the League. Off top, there's going to be an influx of hitmen and assassins for hire on the black market. But in all his lunacy, I'm wondering if there's something to what Malcolm said. Allegedly, the League has kept global corruption in check for hundreds of years. Now that they're gone whose going to fill that vacuum?

They have also been fighting Darhk and HIVE for almost 200 years. I don't know. While Nyssa's heart may have been in the right place I'm starting to think she made a mistake.

Those are interesting points that you have made. It would be cool if the show explored the repercussions of the league disbanding sometime. In regards to what Malcolm said about the league keeping corruption in check and it serving an important purpose, I actually found his reasons for not giving it up to be understandable, even though I did not agree with him.

When he first refused to hand it over, I thought it was purely for selfish reasons, but when he explained the importance of the league and why it was essential for it to be in the right hands, my opinion changed. Now my view is that he wanted it for both selfish reasons (ie the status, legacy and power that comes with being the leader of the LOA) and for the good of the world (I believe Malcolm really thinks that he is best person for the job and that he and the league were providing an essential service for the world).

It seems that as much as Malcolm loves Thea (and he clearly does love her, and that was the point of the scene with him talking about remembering her as a child), he considers what he views as his life's mission to be more important. I don't agree with him, but I understand him.

 

[Arrowshieldfan]

 

[Paradox1]

i think there will be ramifications to the disbandment of the league. Some organization will rise and fill that void left by them. The evil you know Is almost always better than the evil you don't know.

 

[SpideyVille]

So Paul Blackthorne posted a photo of him wearing a wig. There's speculation that we may get another Flashback episode (which didn't end well when they did it for Moira) or we will be seeing him on Legends of Tomorrow.

 

[Arrowshieldfan]

So Paul Blackthorne posted a photo of him wearing a wig. There's speculation that we may get another Flashback episode (which didn't end well when they did it for Moira) or we will be seeing him on Legends of Tomorrow.

I think Lance with hair is a flashback scene with Laurel. I doubt it either of them is the death. It too obvious I think the producer say it suppose to be "shocking"

 

[Herolee10]

If Malcolm isn't killed off by the end of this season, then the producers have literally gone past the "overkill" point.

Malcolm, as a character, has already stayed longer than he should have as a main character for this show. I get that John Barrowman is a great actor and fun guy to be around, but there's no reason why he should still be involved after this season, especially if his actions leads to the death of Oliver' son or another close companion.

And if Oliver goes on about how he still can't kill Malcolm after losing yet another person due to Malcolm's actions, then Oliver has officially become Malcolm's *****.

 

[zenith16]

If Malcolm isn't killed off by the end of this season, then the producers have literally gone past the "overkill" point.

Malcolm, as a character, has already stayed longer than he should have as a main character for this show. I get that John Barrowman is a great actor and fun guy to be around, but there's no reason why he should still be involved after this season, especially if his actions leads to the death of Oliver' son or another close companion.

And if Oliver goes on about how he still can't kill Malcolm after losing yet another person due to Malcolm's actions, then Oliver has officially become Malcolm's *****.

I'm pretty sure it's William's mother that'll die so they can have Oliver raise the kid with felicity and while it's true Malcolm should bumped off for it with in the story, it'll likely not happen for awhile with what he set up with savage and his other personal plans . Malcolm is oliver arch enemy and he'll be around to the end of the show and possible when it end still likely be alive possibly.

 

[Arrowshieldfan]

Malcolm won't die he being set up as the season 5 villain.

 

[Herolee10]

Nobody wants Malcolm as the big bad for any season. What more can you do with the guy?

 

[Reek]

no one wants it, but its pretty clear Merlyn is going to be the end game villain IMO.

 

[Slade W]

no one wants it, but its pretty clear Merlyn is going to be the end game villain IMO.

How do you know no one wants Malcolm as the final villain? What is this based on, or is it you just passing off your opinion as a fact?

 

[Reek]

Nobody wants Malcolm as the big bad for any season. What more can you do with the guy?

no one wants it, but its pretty clear Merlyn is going to be the end game villain IMO.

How do you know no one wants Malcolm as the final villain? What is this based on, or is it you just passing off your opinion as a fact?

I'm clearly not the only one to say it, so tone down the condescension... and yes my opinions are ALWAYS FACTUAL.

I just think Merlyn should have died in season 1. But my FACTUAL opinion is that Merlyn has been written like **** (as well as others) the past 2 seasons.

How Barrowman holds down his food with some of his dialogue is admirable.

 

[Slade W]

I'm clearly not the only one to say it, so tone down the condescension... and yes my opinions are ALWAYS FACTUAL.

I just think Merlyn should have died in season 1. But my FACTUAL opinion is that Merlyn has been written like **** (as well as others) the past 2 seasons.

How Barrowman holds down his food with some of his dialogue is admirable.

I didn't mean to sound condescending. That is one other person. Merlyn being written like **** is not a fact either, again that is your opinion. I have enjoyed Barrowman the past two seasons, but right now I would not want him as the final villain. But, if the writers decided to go that way, I would trust the writers, as they always do a very good job with the main villain of the season. Barrowman is popular though, and I am sure that a lot of people would like him as the main villain. I am interested to know what will happen in the end with the character. Will he go out trying to redeem himself, or will he die as a villain?

 

[Primal Slayer]

So Paul Blackthorne posted a photo of him wearing a wig. There's speculation that we may get another Flashback episode (which didn't end well when they did it for Moira) or we will be seeing him on Legends of Tomorrow.

We are. MG said they were writing flashbacks that involved Laurel.

 

[Hunter Rider]

I agree with Slade, Malcolm has been a more interesting character this season.