BvS Ben Affleck IS Batman - - Part 26

[Travesty]

I think Balebats listens to nothing but Ludacris.

 

[Chip Chipperson]

I mean, even this scene from Begins worked nicely

 

[Spamtron]

are you not entertained?

and that was the lighter, more maneuverable suit...

 

[Chip Chipperson]

and that was the lighter, more maneuverable suit...

Maybe he was better off wearing hockey pads

 

[Spamtron]

I mean, even this scene from Begins worked nicely

That did work, but it did not show off any of Batman's fighting skill so that you could see it in action... just the end results of his tactics really. Nolan tried to show more of the fight itself happening in the sequels, with some of the results recently posted.

 

[Travesty]

Maybe he was better off wearing hockey pads

Hezz not wurring hoskey padzzzz!

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

The Nolan zealots should be coming any second now, god forbid one didn't enjoy one thing about that series.

 

[Chip Chipperson]

The Nolan zealots should be coming any second now, god forbid one didn't enjoy one thing about that series.

Actually I found that they've been pretty cool about it.

 

[BatFan1979]

I mean, even this scene from Begins worked nicely

Yeah- they definitely got that scene right...I love the almost horror movie aspect when the goons are checking on their missing buddy. The eeriness of those spooky whispers while they approached the boxcar was great. I'd love it if we got more of that secret, fast, "scary" Batman in the first part of BvS - as our first introduction to Batfleck. Then again, a more direct in-your-face approach may be refreshing as well...

 

[hafizbat]

The Nolan zealots should be coming any second now, god forbid one didn't enjoy one thing about that series.

No offense, but I've noted that most of your posts are, without provocation, talking about haters or other types of posters you don't like, or about how you don't care what anyone says to you, etc etc rather than actually adding to the discussion. You sound a bit paranoid and overly defensive.

 

[Astro13Zombie]

are you not entertained?

What they really need to do is ensure the Batsuit is heavy enough to slow it right down, so Batman's limbs flail around like a drunken man's who is drowning in a freezing river.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

No offense, but I've noted that most of your posts are, without provocation, talking about haters or other types of posters you don't like, or about how you don't care what anyone says to you, etc etc rather than actually adding to the discussion. You sound a bit paranoid and overly defensive.

Put me on ignore.

 

[hafizbat]

I'm glad they've upped Batman's skill set over the years. Its what happens when any character reaches a high level of popularity. Superman went through the same thing when he was the top hero, so why not Batman?

In my experience, a lot of Superman (and in the case of the CBR forums, Wonder Woman) fans pretty much resent Batman and his popularity. They hate Batgod, but only because they want their preferred hero as top dog.

Definitely. I've always thought it's remarkable how Captain America and Iron Man are nearly equal in popularity in the MCU. In the Civil War, one can easily imagine half the audience rooting for Iron Man and half for Cap. That's what the DCCU should be striving for, but I don't think MoS was a good start in that regard.

 

[shauner111]

I always saw that fight as Blake tripping the dude who falls. Sweeping his legs. But maybe i have to watch it over. And the scene zooms by so quick, that i honestly have no idea who would catch that on first or second viewing unless their eyes are not on Batman. And that baffles me a bit, because it's a fight sequence, why wouldn't your eyes be on Batman and what he's doing? It's something that fanboys have nitpicked and seen only because they're watching it multiple times. Mistakes like this always happen in action movies, it's not a big deal because most people have their eyes on the center of the action anyway.

I happen to love that scene and think the choreography is fine. It's great actually because it shows Bats taking them all down but he has a bit of a limp going. He's older, he hasn't done this for a while. Reminds me of DKReturns. He still gets the job done and Blake feels like a little kid again watching this.

 

[steve4991]

Yeah- they definitely got that scene right...I love the almost horror movie aspect when the goons are checking on their missing buddy. The eeriness of those spooky whispers while they approached the boxcar was great. I'd love it if we got more of that secret, fast, "scary" Batman in the first part of BvS - as our first introduction to Batfleck. Then again, a more direct in-your-face approach may be refreshing as well...

I really think hard about how they're gonna introduce him in the suit. It may start out stealthy, with criminals being grabbed and hoisted into the shadows. He may be introduced as an overbearing shadow in the midst of smoke bombs. Or maybe its a view of the ground in a warehouse and with a loud thud and in a plume of debri and dust, his feet, his knee and his fist hit the ground with serious force from above and we see him with white eyes staring intently into his target. BUUUUUTTTT I'm just speculating here....

 

[ozne99]

What's worse, Bale's fighting in The Dark Knight Rises or Ben's in the park scene in Daredevil?

 

[Jekecy]

I always saw that fight as Blake tripping the dude who falls. Sweeping his legs. But maybe i have to watch it over. And the scene zooms by so quick, that i honestly have no idea who would catch that on first or second viewing unless their eyes are not on Batman. And that baffles me a bit, because it's a fight sequence, why wouldn't your eyes be on Batman and what he's doing? It's something that fanboys have nitpicked and seen only because they're watching it multiple times. Mistakes like this always happen in action movies, it's not a big deal because most people have their eyes on the center of the action anyway.

I happen to love that scene and think the choreography is fine. It's great actually because it shows Bats taking them all down but he has a bit of a limp going. He's older, he hasn't done this for a while. Reminds me of DKReturns. He still gets the job done and Blake feels like a little kid again watching this.

It's not so much the choreography that caught me on first watch, but the fact he was surrounded by armed guards who would not only rather swing their guns at him than pull the trigger, but do it individually and stand idly while their comrades are getting taken down.

I can't think of a dumber way to stage that scene.

 

[steve4991]

What's worse, Bale's fighting in The Dark Knight Rises or Ben's in the park scene in Daredevil?

How about the first fight with Bane? Banes missed punches were so fast, the breeze knocked Batman right over..

 

[Alonsovich]

I'd like a detective mode + predator type scene, like in the Arkham games, honestly. It would be freaking cool to see him go through air ducts and such, hunting thugs like prey, not seeing him anywhere, just seeing something taking out the thugs fast, brutally and unexpected and from his own POV with the night vision.

 

[Boom]

Holy ****, Alonsovich. It's been an age.

 

[steve4991]

It's not so much the choreography that caught me on first watch, but the fact he was surrounded by armed guards who would not only rather swing their guns at him than pull the trigger, but do it individually and stand idly while their comrades are getting taken down.

I can't think of a dumber way to stage that scene.

Same with the rooftop fight with Catwoman.

"No guns, no killing." - Not sure if he was talking to Catwoman or the guards.

I mean, I get that he had to fight his way out, but why not use smoke/flashbang/batarang/small explosives/EMP to get out, not just have the guards stand there and take their turns.

 

[Alonsovich]

Holy ****, Alonsovich. It's been an age.

Heh... Back from the dead, mate... t:

 

[shauner111]

It's not so much the choreography that caught me on first watch, but the fact he was surrounded by armed guards who would not only rather swing their guns at him than pull the trigger, but do it individually and stand idly while their comrades are getting taken down.

I can't think of a dumber way to stage that scene.

But they're encountering Batman. It's not just a random guy or a soldier. They're stunned, trained or not. That's what Batman does to people when he appears out of nowhere.

 

[craigdbfan]

I agree. Batgod's an overused term anyway. Bruce Wayne isn't just a regular guy; he's a fictional peak human, just like Kal-El is a fictional alien from the planet Krypton. Peak humans (specifically the way they're defined in the DC universe) and Kryptonians don't exist in the real world, and that's perfectly fine. Movies, particularly those rooted in fantasy, need not always adhere to the limits and laws of the real world. If we can have an undiluted Superman in MoS, batteries, powers, and ridiculous disguise included; if we can have an actual peak human in the form of the MCU's Captain America; then we can sure as hell have a peak human Batman!

Thank you, thank you, thank you. You get it. I loathe the counterintuitive double-standard that so many DC fans exhibit. I've always found it amusing when people complain about how Batman would never be able to last a second against Superman, batgod blah blah. Um hello? Superman by definition is a godlike character. There is no law of physics that allows Superman to have every superpower you can think of while Batman MUST be limited to the most basic human abilities. They're both fiction. This is why I appreciate TDKR and Morrison's work. They have the guts to push limits, and they're well aware that this is fiction, the only limit is your imagination.

I'm glad they've upped Batman's skill set over the years. Its what happens when any character reaches a high level of popularity. Superman went through the same thing when he was the top hero, so why not Batman?

In my experience, a lot of Superman (and in the case of the CBR forums, Wonder Woman) fans pretty much resent Batman and his popularity. They hate Batgod, but only because they want their preferred hero as top dog.

While many view the term "Batgod" as negative, I actually love it. Like most of you have mentioned he's the peak human. I love that he represents the persistence hunting methods of early humans combined with the intellect of modern man. He's a renaissance man through and through and I think that's one of the big aspects that people love about the character.

Anyway I just hope we get a much, much, much more elaborate Batman in terms of fighting. A combination of Arkham fighting and the glorious relentless fighting from The Protector. I know I've posted this before but I would probably faint if they give us a one shot scene (no shaky cam nonsense) of a Batman tired of BS and just barging in and kicking ass in a beautiful yet raw way.

 

[regwec]

The Nolan zealots should be coming any second now, god forbid one didn't enjoy one thing about that series.

I always saw that fight as Blake tripping the dude who falls. Sweeping his legs. But maybe i have to watch it over. And the scene zooms by so quick, that i honestly have no idea who would catch that on first or second viewing unless their eyes are not on Batman. And that baffles me a bit, because it's a fight sequence, why wouldn't your eyes be on Batman and what he's doing? It's something that fanboys have nitpicked and seen only because they're watching it multiple times. Mistakes like this always happen in action movies, it's not a big deal because most people have their eyes on the center of the action anyway.

I happen to love that scene and think the choreography is fine. It's great actually because it shows Bats taking them all down but he has a bit of a limp going. He's older, he hasn't done this for a while. Reminds me of DKReturns. He still gets the job done and Blake feels like a little kid again watching this .

Heh... Back from the dead, mate... t:

Ms Bellucci is a fair bit older and wiser than when I last saw you post.