BvS Ben Affleck IS Batman - - - - - Part 32

[batmanao23]

Has anybody else noticed how exceptionally thin Affleck's legs look in the Batsuit?

Like the photo of Affleck and Snyder on set. He looks incredibly top heavy .

Sounds about right

 

[ManWithNoName18]

Sometimes i like to go back and read earlier posts, this one in particular made me chuckle

so with today’s ComicCon announcement about the dark knight appearing along side the man of steel in the next big DC film, I've seen a lot of people elsewhere going epic crazy fan-casting who they want to don the cape and cowl.

A lot of that fan-casting though is, frankly, way off the mark and unlikely to happen. Because everyone and their mother seems to be making a few big mistakes. Like choosing an established name. Or casting way too old.


People like Jon Hamm or Ryan Gosling.


You want to know who’ll be the next caped crusader? Think younger, think unknown or barely known. Think Henry Cavill a year ago, think Christian Bale in 2004, think Tobey Maguire in 2000.


Also, think non-American born.


The next hero of the night is going to be someone between approximately 25 and 30, with maybe a few years lee-way on either end. He’s going to be someone with some experience under his belt, but not enough that people really know his name. And he’s not going to have been born in the US of A. How do I know this?


They’ve said before - I think it was Snyder and/or Goyer in an interview right after the film came out - that Man of Steel is the beginning of the new DC cinematic collective universe, and that Superman’s arrival on the scene is what inspires others to take on the mantle of being heroes. So take any thoughts of Batman being older, wiser, established, and throw them out the window. This Batman is going to be new to the scene and new to the job. Likewise, they won’t want either hero making the other look too old or too young. They’ll want them on even footing with each other.


At the same time they don’t want to upstage their new crown prince Superman. If they pick a “name" like Hamm or Gosling, it makes Cavill second-string. Because even with “Man of Steel" under his belt, he still doesn’t yet have that kind of instant recognition.


As for why the new guy will not be born in the US of A?


It’s a trend I’ve noticed.


The vast majority of superheroes aren’t played American born actors anymore. Likely because someone, somewhere, tested audiences and found that international audiences respond poorly to Americans playing heroes, but are more favorable to European or Australian’s playing them. Think about it. Wolverine, Batman, Superman, Thor, Spider-Man… all UK or Aussie. Sure, there are still some Americans playing heroes. RDJr's Iron Man, Captain America, whoever plays Hulk. But the trend has been going more and more towards non-American actors for these big tent-poles, and I doubt it'll change.



So… IMHO, what can can say about the next actor to play the Bat is...

25-30 years old
Likely not American born
Not a ‘name’ celebrity

missed every mark

 

[boocherhix]

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

Joe Kubert's Batman, yet another depiction of the character with a close likeness to Affleck

Source: The Internet

 

[Naked Shia]

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

 

[Val_Zod]

I'll be honest, I was immediately on-board with Ben Affleck as Batman. I was alongside a major minority that thought he was a great choice all around.

1. He's a talented director, and can lend his expertise to Snyder. Heck, it's probably through his involvement that they got Chris Terrio to do rewrites on the script.

2. Contrary to popular belief, he's a solid actor, and given his love for Batman, he'll look to get the character's mannerisms down better than any live actor before.

3. Given his huge name recognition, people will immediately discern him from Christian Bale, and get the idea that this is not Nolan's Batman.

4. And my favorite reason -

Spoiler

 

[Driller]

Aka the real Bruce Wayne...

Batman doesn't think of that persona as Bruce Wayne.

Just ask the DCAU Batman, the incarnation that everyone here treasures so much and compares all other versions to:

Terry McGinnis: How did you know you weren't hearing voices?
Bruce: Well, for one, I'm not psychotic.
Terry: Well, I hope your other answer's more convincing.
Bruce: Second, the voice kept calling me Bruce. That's not what I call myself.
Terry: Oh? What do you call yourself?
Bruce: (stare)
Terry: Oh. You would.

Aka the real Bruce Wayne...

Indeed.

Spoiler

That's just a temporary development, if not an outright out of character moment.

 

[Naked Shia]

Batman doesn't think of that persona as Bruce Wayne.

Just ask the DCAU Batman, the incarnation that everyone here treasures so much and compares all other versions to:

Terry McGinnis: How did you know you weren't hearing voices?
Bruce: Well, for one, I'm not psychotic.
Terry: Well, I hope your other answer's more convincing.
Bruce: Second, the voice kept calling me Bruce. That's not what I call myself.
Terry: Oh? What do you call yourself?
Bruce: (stare)
Terry: Oh. You would.


That's just a temporary development, if not an outright out of character moment.

this is one take. it's not the only one. There isn't one true take. There are several valid takes.

The DCAU batman from the first three seasons of TAS is not the same as the one from season 4 of JL and JLU.

 

[Snakewise]

Sometimes i like to go back and read earlier posts, this one in particular made me chuckle

so with today’s ComicCon announcement about the dark knight appearing along side the man of steel in the next big DC film, I've seen a lot of people elsewhere going epic crazy fan-casting who they want to don the cape and cowl.

A lot of that fan-casting though is, frankly, way off the mark and unlikely to happen. Because everyone and their mother seems to be making a few big mistakes. Like choosing an established name. Or casting way too old.


People like Jon Hamm or Ryan Gosling.


You want to know who’ll be the next caped crusader? Think younger, think unknown or barely known. Think Henry Cavill a year ago, think Christian Bale in 2004, think Tobey Maguire in 2000.


Also, think non-American born.


The next hero of the night is going to be someone between approximately 25 and 30, with maybe a few years lee-way on either end. He’s going to be someone with some experience under his belt, but not enough that people really know his name. And he’s not going to have been born in the US of A. How do I know this?


They’ve said before - I think it was Snyder and/or Goyer in an interview right after the film came out - that Man of Steel is the beginning of the new DC cinematic collective universe, and that Superman’s arrival on the scene is what inspires others to take on the mantle of being heroes. So take any thoughts of Batman being older, wiser, established, and throw them out the window. This Batman is going to be new to the scene and new to the job. Likewise, they won’t want either hero making the other look too old or too young. They’ll want them on even footing with each other.


At the same time they don’t want to upstage their new crown prince Superman. If they pick a “name" like Hamm or Gosling, it makes Cavill second-string. Because even with “Man of Steel" under his belt, he still doesn’t yet have that kind of instant recognition.


As for why the new guy will not be born in the US of A?


It’s a trend I’ve noticed.


The vast majority of superheroes aren’t played American born actors anymore. Likely because someone, somewhere, tested audiences and found that international audiences respond poorly to Americans playing heroes, but are more favorable to European or Australian’s playing them. Think about it. Wolverine, Batman, Superman, Thor, Spider-Man… all UK or Aussie. Sure, there are still some Americans playing heroes. RDJr's Iron Man, Captain America, whoever plays Hulk. But the trend has been going more and more towards non-American actors for these big tent-poles, and I doubt it'll change.



So… IMHO, what can can say about the next actor to play the Bat is...

25-30 years old
Likely not American born
Not a ‘name’ celebrity

missed every mark

Thing that had me chuckling from the past that I completely missed out on when it happened was the rumor that Affleck was being replaced because of fans disapproving and thus why the film was delayed.

 

[Naked Shia]

Remember when there were rumors that beastfleck was furious because he challenged Henry to a weigh contest, and Henry won so Beastfleck wanted to leave the sets? Good times.

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

That's just a temporary development, if not an outright out of character moment.

You mean Batman coming to the realization that he's been Bruce Wayne all along? That's not an out-of-character moment, it's character progression. He essentially gained a new perspective on himself. It's not like he decided to hang up the cape and cowl or to abandon the playboy Bruce persona there and then.

Moreover, even if this breakthrough of his, as previously told by Ed Brubaker, isn't picked up on again by other writers, it doesn't really matter. What the character came to learn toward the end of the arc is what the readers already know: that Batman is the truest incarnation of Bruce Wayne, whereas the face he often shows the world is the performance/act. So, Jekecy's point still stands.

 

[Driller]

You mean Batman coming to the realization that he's been Bruce Wayne all along? That's not an out-of-character moment, it's character progression. He essentially gained a new perspective on himself. It's not like he decided to hang up the cape and cowl or to abandon the playboy Bruce persona there and then.

Moreover, even if this breakthrough of his, as previously told by Ed Brubaker, isn't picked up on again by other writers, it doesn't really matter. What the character came to learn toward the end of the arc is what the readers already know: that Batman is the truest incarnation of Bruce Wayne, whereas the face he often shows the world is the performance/act. So, Jekecy's point still stands.

I meant that I don't see DC letting Batman keep that mindset for long, and I feel it should probably have taken more than that to make him adopt it in the first place.

 

[ThePhantasm]

Has anybody else noticed how exceptionally thin Affleck's legs look in the Batsuit?

Like the photo of Affleck and Snyder on set. He looks incredibly top heavy .

He can skip leg day, that's why he has a batmobile

 

[jfurioso]

it is neither affleck nor stuntfleck, since it's not even bruce wayne in the costume. It's actually the first joker suiting up as batman in order to fight Jaker todd.

Ah, I remember an old comic where the Joker did disguise himself as Batman. As did another character. And kissed Catwoman while at it, too.

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

I meant that I don't see DC letting Batman keep that mindset for long, and I feel it should probably have taken more than that to make him adopt it in the first place.

Well, what you're seeing there is the culmination of a story that spanned the course of 33 issues; it isn't just a one-shot. Within the proper context, I can tell you it does feel very earned.

 

[AnneFan]

Today I bought the Batfleck BvS poster. It's a great image, and looks good on a wall.

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

Found this on Jason Fabok's Twitter page. For those who don't know, he's the artist currently working on Justice League.

https://***********/JasonFabok/status/492649237906477057

 

[matt47]

lol that's awesome

 

[The Shield]

Found this on Jason Fabok's Twitter page. For those who don't know, he's the artist currently working on Justice League.

https://***********/JasonFabok/status/492649237906477057

I freaking love this artist!! I've been stalking the internet trying to find anything and everything he's drawn. I just finished reading his blog about illustrating the amazo virus. He goes on to say they put some unreal deadlines on him to put out the the first two stories of Darkside war. I hate that he had to leave bc I LOVE his work on JL. Although he says Superman was tough for him to illustrate originally in Amazo Virus I love his style of Supes. I wish he'd go to Superman stand alone like Jim Lee did with For tomorrow

 

[spiderral]

I'll be honest, I was immediately on-board with Ben Affleck as Batman. I was alongside a major minority that thought he was a great choice all around.

1. He's a talented director, and can lend his expertise to Snyder. Heck, it's probably through his involvement that they got Chris Terrio to do rewrites on the script.

2. Contrary to popular belief, he's a solid actor, and given his love for Batman, he'll look to get the character's mannerisms down better than any live actor before.

3. Given his huge name recognition, people will immediately discern him from Christian Bale, and get the idea that this is not Nolan's Batman.

4. And my favorite reason -

Spoiler

I'm not sure if that was an intentional joke but it sure did make me laugh.

 

[Mrs. Wayne]

Found this on Jason Fabok's Twitter page. For those who don't know, he's the artist currently working on Justice League.

https://***********/JasonFabok/status/492649237906477057

Haha, that's neat!

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

Haha, that's neat!

It is. As you may know, I've never been a huge proponent of The New 52 or whatever it's called now -- but one or two of the early solicits for JL's Darkseid War, specifically those featuring Fabok's designs, recently piqued my curiosity. So, I decided to check it out and have so far been enjoying his pencils on the title; the story itself isn't bad either.

 

[Mrs. Wayne]

I've read only a little of the first part of JL: DK War, it was good so far. I need to catch up. Might take me awhile since I have a lot of school stuff to read.

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

I've read only a little of the first part of JL: DK War, it was good so far. I need to catch up. Might take me awhile since I have a lot of school stuff to read.

Yeah, I wanted to get a feel of what Johns' writing is like as well since he'll be collaborating w/ Affleck on the upcoming stand-alone Batman film.

Good luck with school. Too bad you can't take a course on Batgod. lol