Because I'm beyond bored with the comparison and the observation.
You can compare them, like you can compare anything, in the sense that this version of Batman and classic depictions of The Punisher are vigilantes that don't care for the well being of criminals and use guns and sometimes kill. You could say the same about Nolan's Batman as well.
But that's, frankly (heh), rather a shallow comparison and it's a shallow interpretation of the Punisher to boot. Being a vigilante and using guns and killing criminals is hardly all that makes The Punisher who he is.
You can be bored with it, but how is he not acting more like the Punisher compared to Batman? Fine, ill call him Rorschach from now on. Batfleck's defenders seem to gush about the surface stuff right? Well on the surface this Batman is acting the same way Punisher acts on the surface. Vengeance, guns, murder, to him he's getting them off the streets
forever,
his way. On the surface, Batman is not supposed to act like Punisher, like
that.
Sometimes kill?
...
I know it's a shallow interpretation of Punisher. Batfleck is not on Punishers level.
I don't care what could have happened in Batfleck's past, it's irrelevant because it's never talked about. As of now it doesn't exist. All that exists is an older Batman who is cruel, he looks at a Robin suit which in the context of the movie (not our knowledge of comics) could mean anything. It could mean Robin disappeared, died, was kidnapped, grew out of the costume. Joker toyed with Batman, and it means something to Bats. That's it. What else do we know about Bruce other than he's cruel and rich? Oh yeah, he plans out murders, kills to get thugs out of his way, he's sadistic about it, UNTIL he sees an alien sacrifice his life for mankind. So Bruce then starts feeling like the human race has some good left. "We can do better". We CAN, not we will over night, but we can strive to do better. No evidence that he will stop killing overnight. Only a scene where he warns Luthor that if he tries anything, he'll brand his ass. We're not sure if he was using it as a scare tactic or if it was a legit warning, threatening Lex to do the right thing or he'll be dead. I don't think Batman needed to go to prison with that in his hand in order to intimidate Luthor. He could have punched him in the face a few times or just told him straight up. I thought he was done with the branding/killing by this point? Which begs the question. Why even go there in the first place? Oh i know, they needed a scene where Lex has a bald head and hypes the audience up for the upcoming baddie in Justice League. Luthor was caught, thrown in prison. Old school batman (he's back to that right?) would be fine with that. That's the whole point of his crusade, catch em', lock em' up. He doesn't have to visit to make sure the villain got the message. From Lex's perspective Batman is still a murderous rage monster who brands people, and has been doing this for years. Im sure that's enough for Lex to know that if he escapes, Batman will find him. He's aware that Batman and Superman figured out that Lex was behind it all. He KNOWS Bats will be waiting for him to kill his ass. Why is the scene there? Could have just cut to Lex babbling about DING-DING and left it with Bruce talking about humanity to Diana.
BTW, this prison scene is AFTER the line at the cemetery. What an arc!
Lmao it's like "We'll show Bruce talking about how he'll do better by Superman, humanity is still good, but we'll bring Batman to Lex's cell ready to brand him right after. He'll try to punch him the brand, but chooses last second not to do it!". Soooo all that talk about doing better, yet next day Batman had branding/murder on his mind! LMFAO, this movie i tell ya!
If you want to just isolate this movie and pretend the comics have nothing to do with it, you can see this version of Batman as its own thing. Him killing, works for the movie even though we know the character and want him to behave differently. Fine, let's judge the movie by itself. It doesn't make the movie bad. What makes the movie bad or mediocre is the poor editing that sometimes ruins the flow of the story or confuses you, lack of character development/motivations, a frustrating tone, OK dialogue, annoying antagonists, one-note characters and not much difference in mood between the two leads. You have a couple of solid performances and some pretty cool visuals to keep your eyes glued for chunks of the film. That's basically it from my POV. Batman without a code is the least thing wrong with this movie!
we still don't know he won't kill again though. he just decided not to brand criminals anymore, starting with Lex. nothing in the movie says he ever had a no-kill code.
That's exactly right. As far as we know for sure, he's just a Batman who kills. We could speculate all we want about if he had a code or not, but until we see proof, he's a Bat-Killer.
He didn't even decide not to brand criminals anymore. We don't know that. He just didn't do it to Lex. Batman brands criminals on the streets so they can go to prison and die. Here, he went to prison, intending on branding him or to strike fear into him. There's no evidence that he won't brand somebody else in Gotham.
