Black Panther Sequel ideas...

[CFE]

As much as I enjoyed the film (just saw it a second time today), a part of me feels like they very nearly crammed a trilogy's worth of potential into it.

It's been discussed at length that villains are one of Marvel's weaker links. You wonder why that is...and you realize that part of it is that the villains are typically not allowed to stick around beyond the one movie they feature in.

Because of a choice like that, the hero isn't given an opportunity to have history with the villain...which would not only create a cinematic version of the comic book trope of repeat battles without literally being that...but would allow characters and their relationships with each other to develop and become fleshed out.

The exception to this is Bucky's journey as the Winter Soldier. "Winter Soldier" pits him and Cap against one another, but he doesn't outright die...he saves Steve and disappears while Steve and Sam decide to go after him. It leaves things unresolved so that you're interested in the story continuing.

So imagine if the entire first "Black Panther" movie played with Killmonger's identity not revealed and through circumstances he managed to escape.

So in "Black Panther 2," you'd have a sense of purpose for T'Challa in his near obsessive quest to find and capture Killmonger...bring him to justice...and there'd be political drama because his obsession could conflict with his duties to the throne, all great character material and so on. And in "2," Killmonger is finally captured, brought back to Wakanda and it's revealed that's what he wanted all along and THAT is when you have that great scene in the throne room where he reveals his parentage and his connection to the royal bloodline...and he challenge's and defeats T'Challa, who's presumed dead by the end of the movie, giving you your cliffhanger and hook for "Black Panther 3," with T'Challa's mother, Shuri, Nakia and Ross fleeing as exiles into the mountains.

See. You could actually do some "Game of Thrones," family dynasty level drama with this material. Have Killmonger's identity and T'Challa's emotional reaction to it be a longer thread throughout more than just one movie. And have Black Panther fight other villains along the way, etc etc.

And then, that line of Killmonger's about being buried at sea, as awesome as it was in the movie, is even more so and earned at the end of a trilogy.

I don't know. Again, loved the movie as is, but the structure of it felt a little like three movies in one to me.

 

[eon001]

As much as I enjoyed the film (just saw it a second time today), a part of me feels like they very nearly crammed a trilogy's worth of potential into it.

It's been discussed at length that villains are one of Marvel's weaker links. You wonder why that is...and you realize that part of it is that the villains are typically not allowed to stick around beyond the one movie they feature in.

Because of a choice like that, the hero isn't given an opportunity to have history with the villain...which would not only create a cinematic version of the comic book trope of repeat battles without literally being that...but would allow characters and their relationships with each other to develop and become fleshed out.

The exception to this is Bucky's journey as the Winter Soldier. "Winter Soldier" pits him and Cap against one another, but he doesn't outright die...he saves Steve and disappears while Steve and Sam decide to go after him. It leaves things unresolved so that you're interested in the story continuing.

So imagine if the entire first "Black Panther" movie played with Killmonger's identity not revealed and through circumstances he managed to escape.

So in "Black Panther 2," you'd have a sense of purpose for T'Challa in his near obsessive quest to find and capture Killmonger...bring him to justice...and there'd be political drama because his obsession could conflict with his duties to the throne, all great character material and so on. And in "2," Killmonger is finally captured, brought back to Wakanda and it's revealed that's what he wanted all along and THAT is when you have that great scene in the throne room where he reveals his parentage and his connection to the royal bloodline...and he challenge's and defeats T'Challa, who's presumed dead by the end of the movie, giving you your cliffhanger and hook for "Black Panther 3," with T'Challa's mother, Shuri, Nakia and Ross fleeing as exiles into the mountains.

See. You could actually do some "Game of Thrones," family dynasty level drama with this material. Have Killmonger's identity and T'Challa's emotional reaction to it be a longer thread throughout more than just one movie. And have Black Panther fight other villains along the way, etc etc.

And then, that line of Killmonger's about being buried at sea, as awesome as it was in the movie, is even more so and earned at the end of a trilogy.

I don't know. Again, loved the movie as is, but the structure of it felt a little like three movies in one to me.

Yea it's frustrating the way the kill villains, but Zemo is still alive and he has history with T'chala.

 

[Dboi]

Personally, I feel like the sequel should be how wakanda challenges the world and question T'Challa's decision of exposing Wakanda to the world whether it was a good idea or not.

Basically there have been incidents where the use of vibranum has caused causalities around the United states and the Black Panther is questioned as to whether he is even capable of ruling over his country and can't look after his vibranium, which causes some tension with the United States. Meanwhile we realise that someone from Wakanda/African has been in cahoots with the intelligence agency in the United States cause some sort of war between both nations. So we have a story where T'Challa has to face challenges from within Wakanda and outside Wakanda almost forcing him to break as a human being due to an incident that affects a certain family member.

This could be the dark knight of the Black Panther franchise. Just a thought.

 

[Aximili86]

What would be really ballsy would be if they sort of went the opposite way, like "there's a reason T'Chaka and all his forebears resisted engaging & supporting the outside world". Unexpected take.

They'd never do it, though. They'll probably keep towing the "Killmonger had a point despite his methods!" line.

 

[onDgrind]

Think I know what's going to happen in the sequel, Thanos attacks Wakanda, they loose lots of their citizens, Mbaku blames Tchalla for bringing the Avengers to Wakanda, he goes to war with Tchalla

 

[pxrple]

What would be really ballsy would be if they sort of went the opposite way, like "there's a reason T'Chaka and all his forebears resisted engaging & supporting the outside world". Unexpected take.

They'd never do it, though. They'll probably keep towing the "Killmonger had a point despite his methods!" line.

lol who is "they"? the script writers? because Wkabi mentioned how letting immigrants in would in turn mean "bringing in their problems". T'challa told Killmonger in the throne room that vibranium was too dangerous to risk being put in the wrong hands and how his duty was to Wakanda and not to the outside world, i'm sure in the comics there are more explanations given for their isolation.

The audience/critics, not the writers, are the ones talking about how Killmonger was a compelling but misguided villain because he was.

 

[Aximili86]

Well, that's a point.

I mean, personally I figure Wakanda probably should engage a little more, and there's internal logic behind T'Challa doing so. But yeah, a really interesting & controversial move would be T'Challa eventually seeing it as a mistake, opening up Wakanda to a thousand different threats and stuff.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Well, obviously Wakanda has opened itself up to the world. Focusing the sequel on the benefits to everyone else and how it is maybe hurting Wakanda is one way to go.

 

[Boy Scout]

What would be really ballsy would be if they sort of went the opposite way, like "there's a reason T'Chaka and all his forebears resisted engaging & supporting the outside world". Unexpected take.

They'd never do it, though. They'll probably keep towing the "Killmonger had a point despite his methods!" line.

They could easily do both. T’Challa’s new point of view would most likely still end up being the correct one (according to the film), but that doesn’t mean that opposing sides can’t have perfectly valid points.

 

[Chance Jackson]

Think I know what's going to happen in the sequel, Thanos attacks Wakanda, they loose lots of their citizens, Mbaku blames Tchalla for bringing the Avengers to Wakanda, he goes to war with Tchalla

I think Thanos' invasion of Wakanda will lend some cred to the Isolationist group in BP2; tribes who would blame T'Challa for all their recent troubles even though he had nothing to do with it.

It's pretty much the only way to do it but it would make M'Baku a pretty lousy villian

 

[tamron]

I totally understand why people would want Namor and Doom as villains in a BP movie but I wouldn't want them introduced into the MCU in that capacity. Both of their histories are just way too rich. Build up to them perhaps.

Namor, in particular, should be more Winter Soldier, presented as grey instead of an outright villain. Maybe even take it back to his Silver Age reintroduction in the Marvel Universe when Johnny Storm found him with amnesia and a beard and restored him. Basically swapping Torch for T'Challa and/or Shuri. "Another broken white boy to fix!"

If Namor starts out waging war on Wakanda, it's so much harder to present him as heroic later. And I think a great Namor adaptation would walk that line. Part of his draw in the comics to me is you never quite know what he'll do.

 

[Aximili86]

Thing is, I'm not even sure Kevin & Co would be up for a total full solo Namor movie, y'know? Maybe down the line if the well starts running dry (not that Namor's not an awesome character, he so is, but...priority-wise, can't really see him as a major one), but if we want to see Namor it's probably a better chance of getting him as a T'Challa villain or part of some Illuminati story.

*Shrugs* I'd be cool with him as a Panther villain. Just don't make him entirely evil, keep the anti-hero aspect of him but both guys are headbutting over national/kingdom interests. Same way neither Steve nor Tony were painted as entirely right or wrong in CW - do that here, but just make Namor a bit more of a ruthless bastard. Yet still with Atlantis' prosperity at heart.

 

[tamron]

I don't expect a full Namor movie at all (when I say adaptation, I mean of the character), especially not short term with Aquaman on the horizon, but I think he should be positioned basically as the Hulk replacement.

Just as the jade giant can pop up in an Avengers or a Thor and especially if the Fox deal is consummated, Namor should have the latitude to appear in a Fantastic Four or an X-Men movie just as easily as a BP. He's been around forever as a comic character and thus has enough history with everyone to adapt from that you should leverage it rather than making him a one-shot.

If he's introduced dropping tidal waves on Wakanda, which it feels like some would want, I just think future appearances become less likely because a threat on that level would most likely have to be put down.

 

[javonstokess]

I can see the sequel being a mix of the "Enemy of the State" storylines and Hudlin's first storyline.

Basically, it's (aspects of )the US vs. Wakanda. Hopefully they use Achebe as the main villain. Totally different from Killmonger.

 

[Dboi]

I can see the sequel being a mix of the "Enemy of the State" storylines and Hudlin's first storyline.

Basically, it's (aspects of )the US vs. Wakanda. Hopefully they use Achebe as the main villain. Totally different from Killmonger.

Same thing I was thinking of. Maybe with someone working with the rogue US intelligence agency working with Achebe i.e. Killmonger's mom as a surprise villain.

Funny we never heard anything about her except for the fact that she fell in love with N'Jobu.

 

[antonydelfini]

Well, obviously Wakanda has opened itself up to the world. Focusing the sequel on the benefits to everyone else and how it is maybe hurting Wakanda is one way to go.

This is the best way to go with the sequel. Also, a revolution from Wakandans who disapprove of T'Challa as a king ala Ta-Nehisi Coates' "A Nation Under Our Feet" storyline would be ideal IMO.

 

[Stark Bauer]

I think they should focus on casting the best possible actors.

Here are my suggestions:

- David Oyelowo
- Gugu Mbatha Raw
- Morgan Freeman
- Whoopi Goldberg
- Oprah
- Wesley Snipes
- Jamie Foxx

Marvel has already cast many of the best actors of African descent...

 

[Stark Bauer]

I totally understand why people would want Namor and Doom as villains in a BP movie but I wouldn't want them introduced into the MCU in that capacity. Both of their histories are just way too rich. Build up to them perhaps.

Namor, in particular, should be more Winter Soldier, presented as grey instead of an outright villain. Maybe even take it back to his Silver Age reintroduction in the Marvel Universe when Johnny Storm found him with amnesia and a beard and restored him. Basically swapping Torch for T'Challa and/or Shuri. "Another broken white boy to fix!"

If Namor starts out waging war on Wakanda, it's so much harder to present him as heroic later. And I think a great Namor adaptation would walk that line. Part of his draw in the comics to me is you never quite know what he'll do.

True but both Spider Man and BP were introduced in CW

 

[Raiden]

I think they should focus on casting the best possible actors.

Here are my suggestions:

- David Oyelowo
- Gugu Mbatha Raw
- Morgan Freeman
- Whoopi Goldberg
- Oprah
- Wesley Snipes
- Jamie Foxx

Marvel has already cast many of the best actors of African descent...

You forgot Denzel Washington, Olivia Spencer, and Kerry Washington.

When they start casting for BP2, I think all the prominent black actors in Hollywood will be making a call to Ryan Coogler and the casting director for a role. The hard part is to turn some of them down.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

Denzel for achebe

 

[DeadStroke]

Just throwing an actor out there. Even though he's on DCTV as Martian Manhunter.

David Harewood

 

[Aximili86]

Holy ****, I didn't even put together that J'onn on Supergirl is the warlord guy from Blood Diamond. That's awesome.

 

[Gladius Nova]

You forgot Denzel Washington, Olivia Spencer, and Kerry Washington.

When they start casting for BP2, I think all the prominent black actors in Hollywood will be making a call to Ryan Coogler and the casting director for a role. The hard part is to turn some of them down.

Octavia Spencer?

 

[Tg11]

Djimon Hounsou even though he has been a part of the Marvel universe already playing a character in Guardians of the Galaxy I would definitely want to see him in the Black Panther universe especially as Achebe

Or I would go with David Oyelowo as Achebe

I would have said Chiwetel if he weren't a part of the MCU already playing Mordo but still

Or how about Michael Jai White?

 

[Raiden]

Octavia Spencer?

Yeah, typo there.