Days of Future Past 'Days Of Future Past' BOX-OFFICE worldwide prediction - Part 1

[TeeKay]

So what do you expect other studios to do run away from summer and christmas and let Disney have the box office all to itself?

No? I was just going by what I know. You can't deny that these Disney films are successful regardless of critical reception or not. With the exception of the Lone Ranger and John Carter, they have made a lot of money. Sometimes it's better to stay clear of them. Open two weeks before or two weeks after they debut. Other wise we would see something like this happening. Happened to MOS as well last year.

 

[SAUspartan]

This needs to be the original cast swan song.

No!

 

[Mikelus]

I don't think good wom or bad wom has anything to do with it. Even the best of the X-men franchise experieced and continue to experience big drops. In that way it is an anomaly, just like how Transformers is an anomaly in how bad wom and reviews don't seem to affect its gross.

We live in bizarro Earth, where people prefer vulgarity over quality.



Now more seriously, not only trash like Transformers make 1 billion, but
also:

Alice in Wonderland (2010): $1,025,467,110 (RT 51%)

Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides: $1,045,713,802 (RT 33%)


Unfortunately, what happened to DOFP is nothing new :

X-Men: Days of Future Past plummeted 74 percent to an estimated $9.4 million. That's a steeper drop than Fast & Furious 6's 72 percent; even with good word-of-mouth, it looks like Days of Future Past is going to be a typically front-loaded X-Men movie. At least it's holding up better than The Last Stand, which fell 77 percent at the same point.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=3850&p=.htm

And Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 2 had a drop of 72.0%, so this happens with well-received movies more often than some may think: http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=weekend&id=harrypotter72.htm

 

[danoyse]

No? I was just going by what I know. You can't deny that these Disney films are successful regardless of critical reception or not. With the exception of the Lone Ranger and John Carter, they have made a lot of money. Sometimes it's better to stay clear of them. Open two weeks before or two weeks after they debut. Other wise we would see something like this happening. Happened to MOS as well last year.

Disney has a huge fanbase as much as the superhero movies do. No one should be surprised when their movies do well.

Hell, I'm a Disney fan too, even though I haven't really enjoyed a lot of their recent live-action adaptations.

 

[Sevprince]

Not surprised by this. If fox really wants to grow the audiences for these movies than they need to bring something new and fresh to the table. You don't do that by keeping the old regime.

FC should have been complete reboot but now that they have soft in universe reboot is not too late to freshen things up. Bring in directors who can do spectacular action pieces, upgrade the production value, cast very good young actors for Storm, Jean and Cyclops and don't use them as window dressing. And of course, be mindful of how they portray women and minority. So far going by how the rest of FC cast and future newcomers have been all nothing but plot devices and canon fodder and very disposable, the future is not looking good.

Reduce the Wolverine obsession in both the movies and marketing.

Yes, this movie should be the swan song for the OT cast. We don't need them forced in new movies or bookend anything.

 

[danoyse]

Not surprised by this. If fox really wants to grow the audiences for these movies than they need to bring something new and fresh to the table. You don't do that by keeping the old regime.

FC should have been complete reboot but now that they have soft in universe reboot is not too late to freshen things up. Bring in directors who can do spectacular action pieces, upgrade the production value, cast very good young actors for Storm, Jean and Cyclops and don't use them as window dressing. And of course, be mindful of how they portray women and minority. So far going by how the rest of FC cast and future newcomers have been all nothing but plot devices and canon fodder and very disposable, the future is not looking good.

Reduce the Wolverine obsession in both the movies and marketing.

Yes, this movie should be the swan song for the OT cast. We don't need them forced in new movies or bookend anything.

You're aware the movie hasn't flopped, right?

 

[TeeKay]

Disney has a huge fanbase as much as the superhero movies do. No one should be surprised when their movies do well.

Hell, I'm a Disney fan too, even though I haven't really enjoyed a lot of their recent live-action adaptations.

Couldn't have said it better myself. I was very surprised Alice in Wonderland grossed over a billion. That movie wasn't good at all. How the hell did it make that much money?

Not surprised by this. If fox really wants to grow the audiences for these movies than they need to bring something new and fresh to the table. You don't do that by keeping the old regime.

FC should have been complete reboot but now that they have soft in universe reboot is not too late to freshen things up. Bring in directors who can do spectacular action pieces, upgrade the production value, cast very good young actors for Storm, Jean and Cyclops and don't use them as window dressing. And of course, be mindful of how they portray women and minority. So far going by how the rest of FC cast and future newcomers have been all nothing but plot devices and canon fodder and very disposable, the future is not looking good.

Reduce the Wolverine obsession in both the movies and marketing.

Yes, this movie should be the swan song for the OT cast. We don't need them forced in new movies or bookend anything.

 

[Sevprince]

You're aware the movie hasn't flopped, right?

Yes. I said if they want to grow their audiences.

 

[Blackout]

$72 million in China and $22 million in Korea as of Saturday

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Any movie opening against a Disney film either live action or animated is bound to lose. With the exception of the Lone Ranger and John Carter, all the Disney films have been successful so far. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong. I liked Malificent and Angelina Jolie is still a big draw. Honestly I didn't expect this big of a drop for X-Men especially that big opening week-end and all the great reviews it was getting. I'm not sure if it's bad WOM or that Malificent is that good (even though critics are split on the film). I saw Malificent a while ago and I liked it (7.5/10) but I wasn't sure how well it was gonna do.

The amount of money is the question here. Maleficent isn't opening to such an amount that it would stop DoFP from having its own fair share this weekend. I SEE SPIDEY's point is that a lot of the HYPE has spent the last year giving MOS crap in pretty much every major Box Office or review thread, because MOS dropped hard on its second weekend. Yet the individual fanbases for TASM2 and DoFP are now trying to excuse their own drops, including using the old "competition" argument. None of these films came up against two other films opening to a combined $150m like MOS did.

So what I SEE SPIDEY is asking, if DoFP was so well received by the public, why the need to find "excuses" now? It didn't fly last year. I SEE SPIDEY is pointing out the fanboy tendencies.

We live in bizarro Earth, where people prefer vulgarity over quality.



Now more seriously, not only trash like Transformers make 1 billion, but
also:

Alice in Wonderland (2010): $1,025,467,110 (RT 51%)

Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides: $1,045,713,802 (RT 33%)


Unfortunately, what happened to DOFP is nothing new :




And Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 2 had a drop of 72.0%, so this happens with well-received movies more often than some may think: http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=weekend&id=harrypotter72.htm

Bringing up Deathly Hallows Part 2 is a non-starter. You can't look at films that set a record on go on to gross $381m domestically, and then compare. When you start off so big, a 70% drop doesn't matter as much. Really, it doesn't matter at all, because by the end of the second weekend, they have already covered their production budget just on domestic gross.

Disney has a huge fanbase as much as the superhero movies do. No one should be surprised when their movies do well.

Hell, I'm a Disney fan too, even though I haven't really enjoyed a lot of their recent live-action adaptations.

I guess I am in the minority, but I have been enjoying quite a few of Disney's live action offerings the last few years. Tron, The Lone Ranger, John Carter, The Muppets, Oz, and Saving Mr. Banks. I liked them, and in the case of The Lone Ranger and The Muppets, I loved them.

 

[danoyse]

Yes. I said if they want to grow their audiences.

One step at a time.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

You're aware the movie hasn't flopped, right?

Don't be blinded by Hugh's backside danoyse. Search your feelings, you know it to be true.

$72 million in China and $22 million in Korea as of Saturday

That will translate to about $20m for Fox so far.

 

[Liam_H]

Bringing up HP or Twilight isn't really the best example. Those two are the most front loaded franchises out there.

 

[danoyse]

So what I SEE SPIDEY is asking, if DoFP was so well received by the public, why the need for "excuses" now? It didn't fly last year. I SEE SPIDEY is pointing out the fanboy tendencies.

As with every box office thread, and this is not singling anyone out, it's just a general attitude in every one of these discussions, there's a certain level of lecturing from I Told You So Mountain that's wears on nerves as much overly optimistic fanboys can. There are really no winners in this discussion, it turns into the same thing every time.

I guess I am in the minority, but I have been enjoying quite a few of Disney's live action offerings the last few years. Tron, The Lone Ranger, John Carter, The Muppets, Oz, and Saving Mr. Banks. I liked them, and in the case of The Lone Ranger and The Muppets, I loved them.

Hated John Carter, haven't seen Lone Ranger. Loved the two Muppets movies. Loved the earlier Pirates movies, but they need to retire that series.

I'm more of an animated Disney movie fan, especially the musicals. Saw Aladdin on Broadway last night, it was awesome.

 

[Ms. Marvel]

The last HP opened to $169.2 M so it's not surprise it dropped 72%.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Well, all the articles on the X-Men series being front loaded once again hold water. Even the good ones drop hard.

I wouldn't call this film a flop or anything. I think FOX will be happy with the BO that the movie ends up snagging. But, clearly the X-Men franchise has a very visible ceiling at this point. Doesn't look like this will become a potential billion dollar property or grow in the manner, say, Cap did with TWS. Regardless of quality.

 

[marvelrobbins]

SO the trilogy and wolverine films have basiclly been erased from contunity and that's not enough for some people. I am in the minority that ending doesn't matter much if you erased
everything the OT cast was in.

The X-Men in comics were often said to protect a world that hates and fears them.The prejudice alague wasn't imvented for films.

 

[danoyse]

Well, all the articles on the X-Men series being front loaded once again hold water. Even the good ones drop hard.

I wouldn't call this film a flop or anything. I think FOX will be happy with the BO that the movie ends up snagging. But, clearly the X-Men franchise has a very visible ceiling at this point. Doesn't look like this will become a potential billion dollar property or grow in the manner, say, Cap did with TWS. Regardless of quality.

We're just cooler than everyone else, that's what it essentially boils down to.

 

[T"Challa]

As for the fatigue reasoning: X-men is seven films in, but isn't James Bond in film number 23? Skyfall was also sort of a love letter to the franchise and character, yet it made a HUGE amount over its predecessor. Bringing Bond back to its Connery heydays.

The difference is Skyfall works very well as a standalone movie. Explaining Skyfall to someone who has never seen a James Bond movie would be waaay easier than explaining DOFP to someone who doesn't know anything about the X-men.

 

[danoyse]

SO the trilogy and wolverine films have basiclly been erased from contunity and that's not enough for some people. I am in the minority that ending doesn't matter much if you erased
everything the OT cast was in.

The X-Men in comics were often said to protect a world that hates and fears them.The prejudice alague wasn't imvented for films.

Well, I would go onto Facebook and curse out all of my friends who haven't seen it....but I'm not a jerk, so I'm not going to do that.

It is what it is. And it's not terrible at all, so there no need to be so down about it.

 

[TeeKay]

The amount of money is the question here. Maleficent isn't opening to such an amount that it would stop DoFP from having its own fair share this weekend. I SEE SPIDEY's point is that a lot of the HYPE has spent the last year giving MOS crap in pretty much every major Box Office or review thread, because MOS dropped hard on its second weekend. Yet the individual fanbases for TASM2 and DoFP are now trying to excuse their own drops, including using the old "competition" argument. None of these films came up against two other films opening to a combined $150m like MOS did.

So what I SEE SPIDEY is asking, if DoFP was so well received by the public, why the need to find "excuses" now? It didn't fly last year. I SEE SPIDEY is pointing out the fanboy tendencies.

I totally got where she's coming from. I don't think any film can open bigger than a Disney film opening week-end. X-Men dropping this big baffled me as well considering the critical reception and the huge opening week-end. It's going to drop almost as big as TLS. MOS had Monsters University and WWZ (which was a surprise), I didn't expect it to come out on top.

 

[JP]

I will remember you (didi da da da)
Will you remember me (didi da da da)
Don't let your life pass you by
Weep not for the memories



RIP X-Men Box Office numbers

 

[Rock Sexton]

Well, all the articles on the X-Men series being front loaded once again hold water. Even the good ones drop hard.

I wouldn't call this film a flop or anything. I think FOX will be happy with the BO that the movie ends up snagging. But, clearly the X-Men franchise has a very visible ceiling at this point. Doesn't look like this will become a potential billion dollar property or grow in the manner, say, Cap did with TWS. Regardless of quality.

Said it before and I'll say it again ....... they have got to get away from the war on mutants and Eric/Charles dichotomy. It's been done to death already. Hopefully AOA steers away from all of that.

 

[marvelrobbins]

well now there are only 2 X_men films In contunity.

Skyfall Isn't a fair compession.They rebooted with Casino Royale.That was number 3 In
reboot series. Just like Star Trek and Star Trek Into Darkness are parts 1 and 2 of a more star wars like Trek series.

 

[Rock Sexton]

Any movie opening against a Disney film either live action or animated is bound to lose. With the exception of the Lone Ranger and John Carter, all the Disney films have been successful so far. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong. I liked Malificent and Angelina Jolie is still a big draw. Honestly I didn't expect this big of a drop for X-Men especially that big opening week-end and all the great reviews it was getting. I'm not sure if it's bad WOM or that Malificent is that good (even though critics are split on the film). I saw Malificent a while ago and I liked it (7.5/10) but I wasn't sure how well it was gonna do.

As said before though, Malifecent is going to do $70 million. That is not some juggernaut weekend swallowing up every potential movie-goer in sight.