Age of Ultron Early Avengers 2 Box Office Prediction Thread - Part 2

We're pretty much at a crawl at this point so I don't know why I'm doing this, but for anyone still interested:

Tuesday gross: $502,192

Domestic: $445,730,903
Foreign: $917,200,000
Global: $1,362,930,903
 
We're pretty much at a crawl at this point so I don't know why I'm doing this, but for anyone still interested:

Tuesday gross: $502,192

Domestic: $445,730,903
Foreign: $917,200,000
Global: $1,362,930,903

Keep up the good work. :cwink:
 
AoU isn't really going to move up in a big way until the next release...assuming it's big there, of course.
 
He tweeted a congratulations because Jurassic World's success raises Chris Pratt's profile and in turn helps out Guardians of the Galaxy 2. Marvel is great at PR and making money.

And Chris is going to be in other Marvel movies besides GotG 2. I'm sure Marvel has him for a multi-picture deal at a very reasonable price.

If they do a Indy series remake with him, he's going to end up making some major bank (or maybe he'll just end up being a bank).
 
If Indy takes off with Chris Pratt as the lead that dude will be going through the stratosphere.
 
I just hope he starts to stretch his acting muscles a little more and not just playing himself in every role.
 
I just hope he starts to stretch his acting muscles a little more and not just playing himself in every role.

What??? You don't think he stretching his acting muscles by being in The Magnificent 7?? :woot:

I hear what you're saying, but when you are being offered these GIGANTIC roles, it's got to be tough to turn one away. I mean, I get that Chris playing Indy is like hitting a change up right in your wheelhouse, but if I'm being flooded with offers like JW and sequels, GotG and sequels, Indy and sequels, etc........I mean saying no sounds kind of nuts to me.
 
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What??? You don't think he stretching his acting muscles by being the The Magnificent 7?? :woot:

I hear what you're saying, but when you are being offered these GIGANTIC roles, it's got to be tough to turn one away. I mean, I get that Chris playing Indy is like hitting a change up right in your wheelhouse, but if I'm being flooded with offers like JW and sequels, GotG and sequels, Indy and sequels, etc........I mean saying no sounds kind of nuts to me.
Oh by all means continue making the dough if they're offering it.
 
Movie is still showing at both theaters here in my town, hoping to catch it one more time. So there's another 15 bucks :)
 
Still showing in over 15 theaters down in these parts.
 
The Judge isn't really the same kind of movie as JW, GOTG and Lego though, which are all franchise movies. It doesn't have that same mainstream appeal.

They are franchise movie, sure, but still all three massively overachieved
Very few expected those three to make as much money as they did
 
My strategy, and I think this is what Marvel is doing, would be to focus on "smaller" properties leading up to IW. Movies like GotG, Dr. Strange, Captain Marvel, Inhumans, Black Panther, Ant-Man.....who am I forgetting??? I think at least a couple of those movies are going to hit it big. While I'm a huge fan of CM and would love to see it kick, I personally think Dr. Strange has the best chance. Then you assemble that group a la the first Avengers movie. Build from the bottom up.

I think Marvel is a victim of its own doing, every movie is a quest for bigger stakes, while it is understandable in the Avengers movies, people eventually get sick of 'World in peril' at the end of every Marvel movie, like a critic rightly said, 'You aren't really interesting in the final set piece, when you know they would be back at it in another year'. Also nobody dies, there is no feeling of danger or urgency, even non-powered human beings like Black Widow and Hawkeye waltz past the Chitauri and Vibranium bots.
Yeah Quicksilver died, but it was a token death, hardly built up

I want the individual movies coming up to be more personal, no more 'Saving the world'. Marvel best movie is Iron Man 1 and in the final set piece there wasn't much of a threat to the world/city or even the neighborhood, just the fact that Tony's and Pepper's life was in danger was enough
 
I absolutely love Chris Pratt and wish him nothing but the best, but NO ONE draws huge numbers with The Judge type of movies. There are, of course, exceptions.

True but at least expect a RDJ movie to do 200M WW, however small, 'The Judge' did 83mil of a 50mil budget, it was a failure, indie movies do more
 
True but at least expect a RDJ movie to do 200M WW, however small, 'The Judge' did 83mil of a 50mil budget, it was a failure, indie movies do more

I wouldn't expect a movie with RDJ, Chris Pratt, Charlize Theron, or whomever to pull in $200M with your "artsy" (for lack of a better word in my arsenal at the moment) type of family drama or romance type of movie. It "could" happen, but I certainly wouldn't expect it and the odds are it won't happen. Look at the movies this year that made even $150M (so far). They are either family cartoon type of movies that parents get guilt tripped into taking their children to see (you have no idea how many times my daughter saw The Lion King or Shrek) or they are action (generally franchise) type of movies. Occasionally you get a 50 Shades or Pitch Perfect 2 that just clicks with a certain demographic and it beats expectations. The Judge had some high expectations early on, but the reviews weren't that strong and it didn't do that well. Those sorts of things happen to everyone. People won't turn out in big numbers, or at least you won't get the repeat viewers needed to turn a movie into a behemoth just because so and so is in it.

Both RDJ and Robert Duvall are both top notch actors (I can't think of ANYONE who I would say is clearly better than Duvall) and if they get the right script and the right director, they have the ability to help a movie pull in big, big numbers. The money, however, is going to the cartoon, action genre for the time being. That a movie doesn't do well isn't all on the actor. They can do their job quite well and the movie still might not do well at the BO. That, IMO, is exactly what happened in The Judge. It was a well acted movie that didn't garner huge BO numbers. A fine effort by both RDJ and Duvall.
 
I think Marvel is a victim of its own doing, every movie is a quest for bigger stakes, while it is understandable in the Avengers movies, people eventually get sick of 'World in peril' at the end of every Marvel movie, like a critic rightly said, 'You aren't really interesting in the final set piece, when you know they would be back at it in another year'. Also nobody dies, there is no feeling of danger or urgency, even non-powered human beings like Black Widow and Hawkeye waltz past the Chitauri and Vibranium bots.
Yeah Quicksilver died, but it was a token death, hardly built up

I want the individual movies coming up to be more personal, no more 'Saving the world'. Marvel best movie is Iron Man 1 and in the final set piece there wasn't much of a threat to the world/city or even the neighborhood, just the fact that Tony's and Pepper's life was in danger was enough

I don't think we've seen enough of MCU films to say for sure that this is the direction they are going. You might be right though and certainly there have been enough of "the world's gonna end" movies that you could come to that conclusion. Let's see how the next phase of movies play out. Feige seems like a pretty shrewd operator and he might be on top of this, but only time will tell.

Personally, I don't WANT the heroes to die. I want QS in the Avengers like he was back in the 2nd year of Avengers comics. We all want different stuff and nothing is going to satisfy everyone.
 
I partially agree with Spiderdevil on the subject.

I think going bigger is essentially going nowhere when it comes to long term plans for the Marvel universe. Even though I think it's debatable wether or not they actually went bigger with AOU which is basically the Avengers dealing with a threat that is not all that different from Loki and his Chitauri army (or if you think going bigger is just moving the fight to countries other than US, I'd give you that one) and the scope of the film was I think pretty much on the same scale (in the first film you had NY being destroyed by alien army, in the second a small eastern european city is flying).

Now in general I must say that after a decade of super hero films and TV Shows dealing with the threat of global destruction (wether it's from DC or Marvel, wether it's the world like in MoS or TA or the titular hero's hometown, like in Arrow or The Dark Knight Rises) the film and TV Shows that I come to like the most are those dealing with smaller stakes and I think it was refreshing after 3 films in phase 2 either dealing with the destruction of the world (CATWS) or the universe itself (GoTG, TDW) to have Marvel release, what I think is the greatest thing ever made when it comes to comic book adaptations, the Daredevil show on Netflix with a main character who "just want(s) to make (his) city a better place". It was a breath of fresh air in a landscape of stakes that are sometimes so high that you can't care about them anymore.

I think MS needs to find a balance in Phase 3, maybe lower the stakes and scope of the solo films and then go crazy on Infinity War to reinforce the idea that they are going to be event films that you shouldn't skip and not just your usual Marvel moment in theaters. It seems that this is the road that they may be taking with Ant-Man (with Pym saying in the trailer that's "it's not about saving the world") and I think it might pay off.
 
I personally can't believe JW is out out doing both avengers movies
Man that's a cheesy movie
 
I think Marvel is ahead a few steps.

They map out these movies far in advance so they know when to change up tempo.

AOU was just filler. Disney and Marvel knew they could put things into cruise control and still make around the same as TA globally.

But you better believe Civil War won't be another army of robots/aliens movie.

People forget how many times people have claimed Marvel Studios has jumped the shark. It happen every other year.
 
I think some people might already be forgetting what these Marvel movies are, what the purpose of the cinematic universe was meant to be. These are comic books on screen, meant to be watched exactly how you read comics. That is to say with the knowledge that the heroes likely aren't going to die and they'll be back for another adventure.

The Marvel brass is well aware of the nature of these movies (talking specifically about there being a feeling of constant continuation and no fear of characters dying etc.) because these movies - and this universe as a whole - were never designed to follow the normal format of movies. Again, they're comic books on screen, practically a completely different medium if you will.
 
I partially agree with Spiderdevil on the subject.

I think going bigger is essentially going nowhere when it comes to long term plans for the Marvel universe. Even though I think it's debatable wether or not they actually went bigger with AOU which is basically the Avengers dealing with a threat that is not all that different from Loki and his Chitauri army (or if you think going bigger is just moving the fight to countries other than US, I'd give you that one) and the scope of the film was I think pretty much on the same scale (in the first film you had NY being destroyed by alien army, in the second a small eastern european city is flying).

Now in general I must say that after a decade of super hero films and TV Shows dealing with the threat of global destruction (wether it's from DC or Marvel, wether it's the world like in MoS or TA or the titular hero's hometown, like in Arrow or The Dark Knight Rises) the film and TV Shows that I come to like the most are those dealing with smaller stakes and I think it was refreshing after 3 films in phase 2 either dealing with the destruction of the world (CATWS) or the universe itself (GoTG, TDW) to have Marvel release, what I think is the greatest thing ever made when it comes to comic book adaptations, the Daredevil show on Netflix with a main character who "just want(s) to make (his) city a better place". It was a breath of fresh air in a landscape of stakes that are sometimes so high that you can't care about them anymore.

I think MS needs to find a balance in Phase 3, maybe lower the stakes and scope of the solo films and then go crazy on Infinity War to reinforce the idea that they are going to be event films that you shouldn't skip and not just your usual Marvel moment in theaters. It seems that this is the road that they may be taking with Ant-Man (with Pym saying in the trailer that's "it's not about saving the world") and I think it might pay off.

I've always said "If you talk enough, you're going to say things that are both stupid and smart". Believe me on this one as I've got a lot of experience.

I think that there needs to be an ebb and flow between and within movies. The original Avengers is getting ready to run its course. I think they're bringing in "lesser" characters than the big 3 (Thor, IM, CA) and setting us up for what is, hopefully, a big Avengers movie a few/several years down the road. I think Marvel believes that at least a couple of the upcoming movies (BP, CM, DS, AM, etc.) will hit it big and set the stage for yet another Super Hero team up. That's the direction I'd be heading.
 
Both RDJ and Robert Duvall are both top notch actors (I can't think of ANYONE who I would say is clearly better than Duvall) and if they get the right script and the right director, they have the ability to help a movie pull in big, big numbers. The money, however, is going to the cartoon, action genre for the time being. That a movie doesn't do well isn't all on the actor. They can do their job quite well and the movie still might not do well at the BO. That, IMO, is exactly what happened in The Judge. It was a well acted movie that didn't garner huge BO numbers. A fine effort by both RDJ and Duvall.


Agreed ofc but its funny how per bobDivaJr fanboys Judge failure isnt bcause of bob but Iron Mans & Avengers success is mostly bcause of him.

Iron Man and Avengers would have made the exact same money if they had any good+ actor in the same role.

It is proven again and again that audiences dont go to movies cause of one single actor. Sure he can boost the movie but thats about it.
 
Agreed ofc but its funny how per bobDivaJr fanboys Judge failure isnt bcause of bob but Iron Mans & Avengers success is mostly bcause of him.

Iron Man and Avengers would have made the exact same money if they had any good+ actor in the same role.

It is proven again and again that audiences dont go to movies cause of one single actor. Sure he can boost the movie but thats about it.

Well that's funny because the only reason why I watch Avengers movies is because of Cap/Evans I'm following his journey and only his journey, same with DCCU I'm following Batman/Affleck journey and only his journey.
 
Agreed ofc but its funny how per bobDivaJr fanboys Judge failure isnt bcause of bob but Iron Mans & Avengers success is mostly bcause of him.

Iron Man and Avengers would have made the exact same money if they had any good+ actor in the same role.

It is proven again and again that audiences dont go to movies cause of one single actor. Sure he can boost the movie but thats about it.

Yeah, sure, whatever. As long as it's been proven, there's not much to say.
 
I think Marvel is ahead a few steps.

They map out these movies far in advance so they know when to change up tempo.

AOU was just filler. Disney and Marvel knew they could put things into cruise control and still make around the same as TA globally.

But you better believe Civil War won't be another army of robots/aliens movie.

People forget how many times people have claimed Marvel Studios has jumped the shark. It happen every other year.

I agree here. While they always knew AoU would be filler, they also knew it'd be okay and wouldn't harm what they've done so far or how they''ll move forward. From this point on I honestly expect the stories to differentiate greatly & surpass the first two phases in many ways.

Still, as a comic book fan I'm incredibly pleased that the MCCU exists & has been done so well, it's all of my childhood dreams rolled into one very cohesive franchise.
 
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