Tacit Ronin
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I wonder if he would've tweeted this had it been BvS that broke the record.t:
I don't think he ever entertained the notion, give that it's so unlikely.
I wonder if he would've tweeted this had it been BvS that broke the record.t:
We're pretty much at a crawl at this point so I don't know why I'm doing this, but for anyone still interested:
Tuesday gross: $502,192
Domestic: $445,730,903
Foreign: $917,200,000
Global: $1,362,930,903
He tweeted a congratulations because Jurassic World's success raises Chris Pratt's profile and in turn helps out Guardians of the Galaxy 2. Marvel is great at PR and making money.
I just hope he starts to stretch his acting muscles a little more and not just playing himself in every role.
Oh by all means continue making the dough if they're offering it.What??? You don't think he stretching his acting muscles by being the The Magnificent 7??t:
I hear what you're saying, but when you are being offered these GIGANTIC roles, it's got to be tough to turn one away. I mean, I get that Chris playing Indy is like hitting a change up right in your wheelhouse, but if I'm being flooded with offers like JW and sequels, GotG and sequels, Indy and sequels, etc........I mean saying no sounds kind of nuts to me.
The Judge isn't really the same kind of movie as JW, GOTG and Lego though, which are all franchise movies. It doesn't have that same mainstream appeal.
My strategy, and I think this is what Marvel is doing, would be to focus on "smaller" properties leading up to IW. Movies like GotG, Dr. Strange, Captain Marvel, Inhumans, Black Panther, Ant-Man.....who am I forgetting??? I think at least a couple of those movies are going to hit it big. While I'm a huge fan of CM and would love to see it kick, I personally think Dr. Strange has the best chance. Then you assemble that group a la the first Avengers movie. Build from the bottom up.
I absolutely love Chris Pratt and wish him nothing but the best, but NO ONE draws huge numbers with The Judge type of movies. There are, of course, exceptions.
True but at least expect a RDJ movie to do 200M WW, however small, 'The Judge' did 83mil of a 50mil budget, it was a failure, indie movies do more
I think Marvel is a victim of its own doing, every movie is a quest for bigger stakes, while it is understandable in the Avengers movies, people eventually get sick of 'World in peril' at the end of every Marvel movie, like a critic rightly said, 'You aren't really interesting in the final set piece, when you know they would be back at it in another year'. Also nobody dies, there is no feeling of danger or urgency, even non-powered human beings like Black Widow and Hawkeye waltz past the Chitauri and Vibranium bots.
Yeah Quicksilver died, but it was a token death, hardly built up
I want the individual movies coming up to be more personal, no more 'Saving the world'. Marvel best movie is Iron Man 1 and in the final set piece there wasn't much of a threat to the world/city or even the neighborhood, just the fact that Tony's and Pepper's life was in danger was enough
I partially agree with Spiderdevil on the subject.
I think going bigger is essentially going nowhere when it comes to long term plans for the Marvel universe. Even though I think it's debatable wether or not they actually went bigger with AOU which is basically the Avengers dealing with a threat that is not all that different from Loki and his Chitauri army (or if you think going bigger is just moving the fight to countries other than US, I'd give you that one) and the scope of the film was I think pretty much on the same scale (in the first film you had NY being destroyed by alien army, in the second a small eastern european city is flying).
Now in general I must say that after a decade of super hero films and TV Shows dealing with the threat of global destruction (wether it's from DC or Marvel, wether it's the world like in MoS or TA or the titular hero's hometown, like in Arrow or The Dark Knight Rises) the film and TV Shows that I come to like the most are those dealing with smaller stakes and I think it was refreshing after 3 films in phase 2 either dealing with the destruction of the world (CATWS) or the universe itself (GoTG, TDW) to have Marvel release, what I think is the greatest thing ever made when it comes to comic book adaptations, the Daredevil show on Netflix with a main character who "just want(s) to make (his) city a better place". It was a breath of fresh air in a landscape of stakes that are sometimes so high that you can't care about them anymore.
I think MS needs to find a balance in Phase 3, maybe lower the stakes and scope of the solo films and then go crazy on Infinity War to reinforce the idea that they are going to be event films that you shouldn't skip and not just your usual Marvel moment in theaters. It seems that this is the road that they may be taking with Ant-Man (with Pym saying in the trailer that's "it's not about saving the world") and I think it might pay off.
Both RDJ and Robert Duvall are both top notch actors (I can't think of ANYONE who I would say is clearly better than Duvall) and if they get the right script and the right director, they have the ability to help a movie pull in big, big numbers. The money, however, is going to the cartoon, action genre for the time being. That a movie doesn't do well isn't all on the actor. They can do their job quite well and the movie still might not do well at the BO. That, IMO, is exactly what happened in The Judge. It was a well acted movie that didn't garner huge BO numbers. A fine effort by both RDJ and Duvall.
Agreed ofc but its funny how per bobDivaJr fanboys Judge failure isnt bcause of bob but Iron Mans & Avengers success is mostly bcause of him.
Iron Man and Avengers would have made the exact same money if they had any good+ actor in the same role.
It is proven again and again that audiences dont go to movies cause of one single actor. Sure he can boost the movie but thats about it.
Agreed ofc but its funny how per bobDivaJr fanboys Judge failure isnt bcause of bob but Iron Mans & Avengers success is mostly bcause of him.
Iron Man and Avengers would have made the exact same money if they had any good+ actor in the same role.
It is proven again and again that audiences dont go to movies cause of one single actor. Sure he can boost the movie but thats about it.
I think Marvel is ahead a few steps.
They map out these movies far in advance so they know when to change up tempo.
AOU was just filler. Disney and Marvel knew they could put things into cruise control and still make around the same as TA globally.
But you better believe Civil War won't be another army of robots/aliens movie.
People forget how many times people have claimed Marvel Studios has jumped the shark. It happen every other year.