Age of Ultron Early Avengers 2 Box Office Prediction Thread - Part 2

[InCali]

Seems like your beef is with Marvel because they don't have to pay RDJ anything, they could recast the role if they don't want to pay him.

Seems like someone has a beef somewhere.......

Actors are going to ask for as much as possible and studios are going to try to pay as little as possible. If they can come to an agreement, they do. If they can't, they won't and each will go on their merry way. What an actor can "demand" is based entirely on what the studio thinks s/he is worth. If the studio doesn't think an actor is worth the money, they don't come to an agreement or, if they can make what they think is a better deal (all things considered) with someone else, that's what they do. If any actor is getting paid a boatload of money, it's because the studio thinks they are worth it. It's really not that complicated.

Chris Pratt is going to be able to demand a L000000000T of money (those 0s are going to be on his check) and I'm glad for him. If he demands too much, the studio won't hire him. Marvel probably has a pretty good deal on him right now and that's fine because he (evidently) entered into a contract with them. If an actor makes a ton of money, it's because they can.

This isn't personal.....it's business.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Seems like someone has a beef somewhere.......

Actors are going to ask for as much as possible and studios are going to try to pay as little as possible. If they can come to an agreement, they do. If they can't, they won't and each will go on their merry way. What an actor can "demand" is based entirely on what the studio thinks s/he is worth. If the studio doesn't think an actor is worth the money, they don't come to an agreement or, if they can make what they think is a better deal (all things considered) with someone else, that's what they do. If any actor is getting paid a boatload of money, it's because the studio thinks they are worth it. It's really not that complicated.

Chris Pratt is going to be able to demand a L000000000T of money (those 0s are going to be on his check) and I'm glad for him. If he demands too much, the studio won't hire him. Marvel probably has a pretty good deal on him right now and that's fine because he (evidently) entered into a contract with them. If an actor makes a ton of money, it's because they can.

This isn't personal.....it's business.

 

[InCali]

Frankly I am not of the opinion to make one star man, who holds the studio ransom whenever he wants, its more healthy to have 3-4 solid stars who can take the Universe forward

I don't see a studio as being held ransom (hostage??). Studios make business decisions and aren't going to go forward if they don't think they can make some money. Actors are going to do what's best for their careers and wallet. Actor and studio and both have their own agendas and either can walk away and make a different deal.

EDIT: It IS healthier (for the studio) to have a wider array of bankable talent and I think that's exactly what Marvel is working on right now. I think that is a very good point.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Well they have Scarjo and Pratt, so it's not just RDJ. I would like to put Hemsworth in that pile but I'm a little leery.

 

[Tymminator]

Seems like someone has a beef somewhere.......

Actors are going to ask for as much as possible and studios are going to try to pay as little as possible. If they can come to an agreement, they do. If they can't, they won't and each will go on their merry way. What an actor can "demand" is based entirely on what the studio thinks s/he is worth. If the studio doesn't think an actor is worth the money, they don't come to an agreement or, if they can make what they think is a better deal (all things considered) with someone else, that's what they do. If any actor is getting paid a boatload of money, it's because the studio thinks they are worth it. It's really not that complicated.

Chris Pratt is going to be able to demand a L000000000T of money (those 0s are going to be on his check) and I'm glad for him. If he demands too much, the studio won't hire him. Marvel probably has a pretty good deal on him right now and that's fine because he (evidently) entered into a contract with them. If an actor makes a ton of money, it's because they can.

This isn't personal.....it's business.

Well put.

 

[Spiderdevil]

I don't see a studio as being held ransom (hostage??). Studios make business decisions and aren't going to go forward if they don't think they can make some money. Actors are going to do what's best for their careers and wallet. Actor and studio and both have their own agendas and either can walk away and make a different deal.

EDIT: It IS healthier (for the studio) to have a wider array of bankable talent and I think that's exactly what Marvel is working on right now. I think that is a very good point.

Well before AoU began filming, RDJ declared that his fellow actors weren't getting paid much and he will not work if their salaries aren't raised, Marvel then had to increase the salary

Its was stupid as ****, they made their deal with Marvel, RDJ made his, he should stick to his work, it was a contract which Marvel and the actors signed, they accepted that particular salary for the sequels and when the movie started doing better, they started demanding a better salary!

 

[InCali]

Well before AoU began filming, RDJ declared that his fellow actors weren't getting paid much and he will not work if their salaries aren't raised, Marvel then had to increase the salary

Its was stupid as ****, they made their deal with Marvel, RDJ made his, he should stick to his work, it was a contract which Marvel and the actors signed, they accepted that particular salary for the sequels and when the movie started doing better, they started demanding a better salary!

Yeah. I don't know the details, but I've always felt like a deal is a deal and you're supposed to honor it. I've had it work both ways. RDJ sort of broke the ice for Marvel (put them on the big map so to speak) and, as such, probably had a lot of leverage. After IM1, Marvel got more leverage and, I think, started the multi-movie deals for fairly low (relatively speaking) salaries (as is their right....no one had to take the parts). If the movies didn't do that well, then maybe the actors would have been seen to have gotten the better of the deal. This part worked out for Marvel I think.

Anyway, I think Marvel and the actors both came out of this smelling okay. Marvel now has the biggest franchise in history (and with a lot of fertile ground left to till) and the actors all got big career boosts. I'm not going to bed at night worrying about their futures (except I want to see good movies).

Cheers.

 

[InCali]

Well they have Scarjo and Pratt, so it's not just RDJ. I would like to put Hemsworth in that pile but I'm a little leery.

Pratt for sure and I think there are some real interesting possibilities in the upcoming movies. We'll see how Ant Man does. Boseman has a very big upside. Cumberbatch is a very talented actor whose star is clearly rising. Then we've got casting for Captain Marvel and The Inhumans. Marvel is IMO positioning itself very well and "that pile" looks to get a lot bigger very soon.

 

[Spiderdevil]

Yeah. I don't know the details, but I've always felt like a deal is a deal and you're supposed to honor it. I've had it work both ways. RDJ sort of broke the ice for Marvel (put them on the big map so to speak) and, as such, probably had a lot of leverage. After IM1, Marvel got more leverage and, I think, started the multi-movie deals for fairly low (relatively speaking) salaries (as is their right....no one had to take the parts). If the movies didn't do that well, then maybe the actors would have been seen to have gotten the better of the deal. This part worked out for Marvel I think.

Anyway, I think Marvel and the actors both came out of this smelling okay. Marvel now has the biggest franchise in history (and with a lot of fertile ground left to till) and the actors all got big career boosts. I'm not going to bed at night worrying about their futures (except I want to see good movies).


Cheers.

Yeah, Its just that I am bored with the current gen, after Infinity wars I hope we see no Iron Man, Thor, Black Widow, Hulk, Etc for a long time

I am looking forward to the Spidey trilogy, Doctor Strange, Black Panther, Captain Marvel, Inhumans and ofcourse the Netflix Saga

 

[InCali]

Yeah, Its just that I am bored with the current gen, after Infinity wars I hope we see no Iron Man, Thor, Black Widow, Hulk, Etc for a long time

I am looking forward to the Spidey trilogy, Doctor Strange, Black Panther, Captain Marvel, Inhumans and ofcourse the Netflix Saga

That's understandable and I'm sure you aren't the only one. I could watch Thor movies on into eternity if they'd make them good ones (Even though the comics bear no resemblance to it, I grew up reading Norse mythology). I'm most definitely looking forward to "The Next Generation" and hope it makes the first phases look like the old Star Trek series. I'm particularly interested in Dr. Strange and Captain Marvel. Thor and the Doc were my favorite characters in the old days and I think Marvel made a good, but long overdue move by doing a standalone with a woman superhero(ine). I'm really hoping it will set the stage for a strong CM.

The new Avengers could be a pretty cool team with a smart selection of the new characters they've introduced (BP, CM, AM, etc.). I'd love to see CM as the new leader of the Avengers.

 

[JB33]

Weekend actuals (June 19-21):
$2,847,404 domestic, $800,000 foreign

Domestic total: $449,447,357
Foreign total: $918,400,000
Global total: $1,367,847,357

 

[JKKS085]

Honestly if you think bob Diva jr OWNS Iron Man and his mythos and actors should be parasite feeding of CB legend then i have nothing to say to you. You cant be reasoned with.

Just try to understand that if all actors demanded 75 millions per flick you wouldnt have the chance to see any CB movie.

There are no puppies hurt here. Just a greedy actor who has a VERY BAD REP in hollywood and for a good reason.

I don't think Downey owns anything regarding the Iron Man mythos, but I don't have short term memory issues either. I remember where Iron Man was before 2008, I remember that it was an irrelevant, outdated character, a vestige of the Cold War whose rights were sold for a pittance to New Line who in the end didn't even think he was worthy of a silver screen adaptation (while freakin' Ghost Rider got one). In 2013 Feige, Favreau but most of all Downey turned it into a character that became so popular that his last outing outgrossed the last 2 Batman films at the Box Office (and we are talking about the goddamn Batman).

So if your question is do I think it is right to say that Downey is a parasite feeding on one of the frankly weakest cbm mythos ever, because he got paid 75M to star in a film that made 1.2B at the WW box office, turned a 350M+ net profit for Marvel Studios from its theater run only ... well maybe I answered the question in the question itself. How I can I put it so you can understand ? RDJ is being paid big money because he makes bigger money. Get it ? That's no rocket science.

Now, about your follow up question. What if all actors asked for 75M ? Let's take a real life situation. It would be like saying that my boss is being paid too much money because the company I work for would go bankrupt if every employee were to ask for a similar salary. Well maybe it's news for you, but not every one has grounds to ask for a 7 figures salary. That's life. And the movie industry doesn't work any differently. Marvel Studios just seems to think that Downey is worth more than other actors.

As for his rep, well gossips are not my field but I think that all directors who worked with that guy since his come back have nothing but nice things to say about him. After all he did three films with Favreau, two with Shane Black, two with Guy Ritchie and two with Whedon. For a guy with such a bad rep that isn't too bad.

So no puppies ??? How about kittens ? He did drown your kittens right ?

 

[JKKS085]

Seems like someone has a beef somewhere.......

Actors are going to ask for as much as possible and studios are going to try to pay as little as possible. If they can come to an agreement, they do. If they can't, they won't and each will go on their merry way. What an actor can "demand" is based entirely on what the studio thinks s/he is worth. If the studio doesn't think an actor is worth the money, they don't come to an agreement or, if they can make what they think is a better deal (all things considered) with someone else, that's what they do. If any actor is getting paid a boatload of money, it's because the studio thinks they are worth it. It's really not that complicated.

Chris Pratt is going to be able to demand a L000000000T of money (those 0s are going to be on his check) and I'm glad for him. If he demands too much, the studio won't hire him. Marvel probably has a pretty good deal on him right now and that's fine because he (evidently) entered into a contract with them. If an actor makes a ton of money, it's because they can.

This isn't personal.....it's business.

 

[spider-neil]

Wow, it's possible that AoU wont finish in the top THREE (FF7, JW, SW) for world wide BO for 2015. Who could have predicted THAT at the start of the year?!

 

[Iceman]

Only Star Wars I would have given a hope in Hell. And even then I thought AoU would beat it handily.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

It's pretty amazing because Age of Ultron has made a **** load of money so it's not an easy feat to gross more than it.

 

[spider-neil]

It's pretty amazing because Age of Ultron has made a **** load of money so it's not an easy feat to gross more than it.

It blows my mind that a movie that will likely cross 1.4b wont finish top of the pile and even more mind blowing that it may finish 4th. Whoever said 'cinema is dead' is an idiot.

 

[Spitfire]

Wow, it's possible that AoU wont finish in the top THREE (FF7, JW, SW) for world wide BO for 2015. Who could have predicted THAT at the start of the year?!

I love how 2015 has been so unpredictable for box office predictions! I remember being mocked for suggesting earlier this year that Jurassic World may match or beat AoU at the box office due to the nostalgia factor. But I would never have guessed that FF7 would have done so well.

Some are still arguing that SW isn't guaranteed to do well, but I know lots of people in their 30s and 40s who don't go to the cinema often who are excited to see this movie. I think 'older' movie audiences are often forgotten when box office predictions are made?

Does anyone think that the Terminator movie might surprise us as well? Any other movies that might challenge AoU this year?

 

[psylockolussus]

Wow, it's possible that AoU wont finish in the top THREE (FF7, JW, SW) for world wide BO for 2015. Who could have predicted THAT at the start of the year?!

Yeah that is very possible!

 

[Dark Raven]

I have been saying for a while that I think SW will beat AOU, but many have said that it's unlikely it would. I think SW will be huge and could potentially challenge the number 1 or 2 spot for highest grossing movie of all time eventually. I certainly don't think there's any way it won't be in the top 10.

 

[InCali]

I have been saying for a while that I think SW will beat AOU, but many have said that it's unlikely it would. I think SW will be huge and could potentially challenge the number 1 or 2 spot for highest grossing movie of all time eventually. I certainly don't think there's any way it won't be in the top 10.

If it's really good, there's no telling how high the BO on SW will go. That's the thing about movies. If they have a hook for the general audience, they can take off. Avatar didn't crack $80 OW, but there was virtually a 100% hold on the second weekend and like a 85% hold the 3rd, etc. (this is from memory and not meant to be exact). It caught people's attention and life on Pandora sparked people's imagination. SW has a bit of a built in advantage over movies like Avatar because it's a known and popular quantity.

I'm not sure we'll ever see a movie with a $75M OW that goes on to make $750M BO. That's just crazy. SW will do just fine the first couple of weeks. Where it goes from there will depend on its merits.

 

[JOE]

I'm happy that the movie will clear the 1.4B marker with ease. It doesn't deserve to beat the first one, 1.4B is what this movie deserves.

 

[First Avenger]

Yeah that is very possible!

And you are SO happy obviously.

 

[Superhero 101]

I'm happy that the movie will clear the 1.4B marker with ease. It doesn't deserve to beat the first one, 1.4B is what this movie deserves.

Agreed

 

[Lord]

While Avengers isn't gonna be number 1 this year, or even 2 or 3, i'm kinda excited to see how this year shows there are in least 4 Billion film franchises around (6 if Minions and Bond do it as well). Last year made it seem as if less people were going to the cinemas, only thing i realy hope now is more original event films.