But why should Wakanda be toned down....nothing else in the MCU has?
Whoa. Let's pull back a moment. Thor for starters. Not only a shadow of his power, not only powerless for most of the film anyway, but Asgard had it's godhood totally removed. Now, that's a tone down! The others are similar.
The reason is simple: The audience has to personally care about every scrap of the sci fi, or the 'inception' doesn't take and the movie "sucks."
it shouldn't. Explained correctly people would accept Wakanda as another crazy place in the MCU. If people can accept everything else in the MCU so far why do people think they can't accept this
What does explained correctly mean? Why do films show origins? Can't they just narrate them and get right to the part people care about?
Yes people would know about Wakanda but thats about it....much like the country of Tanzania. We know it's a country in Africa but without looking it up on the internet what could you tell me about it. Now imagine if that country purposefully hid info about it.
I can tell you its not one of the wealthiest countries on the planet, I can tell you it's easy to investigate because it's so small. It's thin line... there's some hiding to be done, but it can't be too much or else it's like 'wait... something this epic has no effect on the rest of the world?'
Wakanda isn't run by a crazy dictatorship
Yeah... I can't vouch for any of those guys, but when your country gets embargoed because you won't play ball, everyone gets a little crazy. IRL, Wakanda would be in a very similar position, and likely characterized the same in the media. "They must be planning something, they won't let us in."
Even the Japan of Africa is a stretch. Japan wasn't so technologically superior in WW2 that it didn't get bombed in submission by a technologically and economically superior country called the US. Japan has only became modernized after they changed from their traditional government and received massive investment from US capitalism.
There is a disconnect happening between what works in a fully fictional world and meshing that world within our own. This uncompromising stance to create a hidden world on a modern Earth won't work.
And to touch on something further up the thread, if the people of Wakanda went to schools around the world for their education, they would only be taught to the same degree as everyone else. If Wakanda is supposed to be superior, then they must be superior on their own, otherwise Wakanda is no more advanced than anyone else.
This is why T'Challa as the source of Wakanda's superiority works so well. You avoid all these problems. A relatively normal country/people, and then add a savant to the edge. He goes around the world for education in much the same way Batman did for Martial arts... as with any walkabout, more than the sum of its parts.
As for Wakanda's "origin," Cap's shield would indicate they had metal workers back at that time, and Vibranium, perhaps they traded with Stark for some of his designs... except they got them to work. Cue stable electricity supply base for manufacturing and such. After that... it's Africa... perhaps T'chaka was selling diamonds or platinum or whatever, and refining them there, something rare in Africa. After they started sending kids on Walkabouts and overseas for school, then you started getting tech adopted and revamped... only when Wakanda started showing it's "anachronism" of people with traditional clothing running around with tablets would it scarcely make the news. Perhaps part of it's 'cover' is that it's part of Tanzania. Regardless, it's swift rise would make it a threat though, cue T'Chaka's assassination. T'Challa is the one who makes it a super power.
But it's not our universe...it's the MCU....they had lazer beams and arc cannons in WW2, a man in a cave can build a sophisticated suit or armor....he has an AI house...now imagine Tony Stark's ingenuity expressed on a country level.
In our universe, there were tons of weapons and stuff classified from WWII. It's perfectly feasible for that to have happened and we not know about it. A man in a cave CAN build a suit of armor, and people do have AI houses.
Now imagine a country full of Tony Starks, and none of them ever go off course, decided to become villains, decide to change the outside world. They are all super geniuses, but are all always in perfect agreement that we must be isolationist. Tell me that sounds feasible and realistic?
The MCU featured a World War 2 that had a Nazi with a red skull for a head, technology far more superior than anything at the time on both Stark and Hydra's end, and vibranium being pretty much indestructible. In modern day they have a giant hellicarrier that's basically a submarine and flying ship, and no one knew a damn thing about it. Wakanda isn't that far fetched when you consider that the SHIELD has a giant floating ship that no one has seen, even Tony Stark who had the most advanced tech of them all. In this world it's not so far fetched that a place like Wakanda could exist without much contact from outsiders.
So a guy lost his skin, some alien tech got used by humans, and they have a really strong metal, and in the modern day we have... classified stealth technology and helicopters... there's a difference between something that simply didn't happen because of money/circumstance/aliens didn't stop by, and something that doesn't make any sense...
And this 'measure of farfetched' argument that we keep coming back to is pointless. It doesn't matter that Tony is simultaneously controlling 20+ Armors... because we've had FOUR entire movies to love him and his creative ability, and we are rooting for him to create ridiculousness. It doesn't matter that Thor has a magic hammer because we spend an hour rooting for him to earn it and reclaim it. The reason the MCU can have all this crazy stuff is because it makes the audience care about the characters and the journey to get to all that crazy stuff. Without that, these crazy ideas would fail like the GL and FF films.
Have Wakanda, let Wakanda be uber and space age. Simply make the audience root for Wakanda, not just throw it out there and hope they do, because that's what the GL and FF films did. I like Wakanda being uber at times, but the proposals you guys are making with "Why not?" and "They like Cheerios so they'll love Toasty-Ohs" and secret lawyers and all this stuff... it shows a serious lack of inception, a serious lack of desire to show the audience how to love Wakanda like you do, to sympathize with its people like you do. And no amount of explanations or precedent will fix that, it's gotta be done like every other film: you take the audiences hand and lead them through all the emotions step by step, and that determines where you start your film, not the latest retcons to 616.