EVERYTHING Black Panther - Part 3

[spideymouse]

Haha, guys, it was an innocent little idea. No need to blow things out of proportion. I think we all need some vibranium-enhanced back massages.

Also, no one responded to my Blomkamp-as-Klaw idea! What do you all think? He probably doesn't act in other people's movies, but I liked his performance in District 9.

And did you know that he worked as a 3D animator on the visual effects in the Smallville TV show for an unknown number of episodes? At least, that's what it says on IMDB. I'm sure that doesn't add anything to the conversation.

 

[Hypestyle]

hopefully there will be Panther news at the San Diego ComicCon.

 

[Joeyjojo72]

Apologies if I overlooked the context of your post. My bad.

 

[spideymouse]

Apologies if I overlooked the context of your post. My bad.

It's all good, bro. FWIW, I agree with most of your comments on the subject. =P

 

[bubbadoom]

I am sure we can all agree that a Black Panther movie - done right - would be very cool!

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

hopefully there will be Panther news at the San Diego ComicCon.

That would make my summer.

 

[tdeverea]

How do we know what Blomkamp's version of the Panther would be? Just because he directed a film set in South Africa [that had some questionable plot holes] does not mean he has a handle on the Panther.

I guess it depends upon what you define as "interfering". If making sure the film maker sticks to the character's almost 50 year history is interfering, and not go off on some tangent, then yes Marvel should "interfer". When you invest millions into a project you have every right to expect certain results and if said director is not willing to respect that, then let him make his own movies.

I wasn't implying that at all. How about we just stick to suggesting things for the movie and not spend time trying to interpret what other posters are suggesting?

 

[bubbadoom]

I wasn't implying that at all. How about we just stick to suggesting things for the movie and not spend time trying to interpret what other posters are suggesting?

Not sure what I was "interpreting" - but your last suggestion sounds good to me...

 

[spideymouse]

That would make my summer.

It would make mine too. Sadly, I doubt it'll happen. I kind of doubt that they'll make any Phase Three announcements this year, given the fact that there are already 5 upcoming movies already announced through the end of 2015. Maybe next year!

 

[T"Challa]

Yeah i don't think we'll hear any Phase III talk except Ant Man stuff since Edgar Wright is going to be at comic-con.

I hope i'm wrong though. if a BP movie is announced while i'm at work, i might get fired because of all the breakdancing i'll be doing on my desk.

 

[Hypestyle]

side note-- who else noticed that the Panther was cut out of giving the Falcon his wings in the new Avengers 'toon?

 

[JB-the-Hunter]

Yeah i don't think we'll hear any Phase III talk except Ant Man stuff since Edgar Wright is going to be at comic-con.

Why would Marvel set dates for movies that don't come out for 3-4 years only a few weeks before Comic-Con if they don't have any announcements planned? I'm not trying to get your hopes up, but at the same time, I fully expect some phase 3 teasing. Especially with all this Dr. Strange talk that's been happening recently.

 

[bubbadoom]

Why would Marvel set dates for movies that don't come out for 3-4 years only a few weeks before Comic-Con if they don't have any announcements planned? I'm not trying to get your hopes up, but at the same time, I fully expect some phase 3 teasing. Especially with all this Dr. Strange talk that's been happening recently.

To keep Sony from placing another Spider-Man there - what's why Cap is opening in April next year instead of May.

 

[JB-the-Hunter]

To keep Sony from placing another Spider-Man there - what's why Cap is opening in April next year instead of May.

Why would Marvel set dates for movies that don't come out for 3-4 years only a few weeks before Comic-Con

^^^

 

[spideymouse]

Haha, guys, it was an innocent little idea. No need to blow things out of proportion. I think we all need some vibranium-enhanced back massages.

Also, no one responded to my Blomkamp-as-Klaw idea! What do you all think? He probably doesn't act in other people's movies, but I liked his performance in District 9.

And did you know that he worked as a 3D animator on the visual effects in the Smallville TV show for an unknown number of episodes? At least, that's what it says on IMDB. I'm sure that doesn't add anything to the conversation.

Haha okay so, egg on my face, I actually meant Sharlto Copley-as-Klaw. For some reason I confused Blomkamp with Copley. What do you guys think of Copley as Klaw?

 

[Mr. Dent]

To keep Sony from placing another Spider-Man there - what's why Cap is opening in April next year instead of May.

I'm pretty sure Marvel works with them with those release dates. They moved Cap right before Sony announced TASM2. They didn't have to do that and Sony wouldn't have put Spidey up against Cap if they weren't working with Marvel.

 

[bubbadoom]

I'm pretty sure Marvel works with them with those release dates. They moved Cap right before Sony announced TASM2. They didn't have to do that and Sony wouldn't have put Spidey up against Cap if they weren't working with Marvel.

Not just Sony and Spidey, but any big franchise.

I would be surprised if the other studios and Marvel worked together on those release dates - they are all competing for the summer box office bucks.

The first of May is the current magic spot for summer block busters [like Memorial Day was for decades with Jaws, Star Wars, etc.] and it's the spot they all want. The old Spider-Man series once owned this, but then Marvel captured it with Iron Man, IM2, Thor, Avengers, and IM3.

I will have to take your word on the Cap/TASM2 thing - but I recall it the other way around - Sony grabbing that date shortly after TASM was released and I thought before Cap2 was announced.

 

[Mr. Dent]

No, Marvel already had the May spot locked up for one of their movies, like they locked up spots in 2016/2017 recently. They moved Cap to April so Spidey could have May. You have to remember that Marvel makes money off of Spidey and X-Men movies as well, it's a different situation than other studios. Also notice that Sony put Spidey at the June slot in 2017 after Marvel locked up the May spot for that month.

 

[E-Man]

side note-- who else noticed that the Panther was cut out of giving the Falcon his wings in the new Avengers 'toon?

They did in both EMH and the new one. They also had Iron Man design the Quinjet instead of T'Challa.

 

[bubbadoom]

The battle of dates I am curious about is the Avengers 2/Star Wars 7 one - if they both are released in 2015. The Avengers has the early May date, and Star Wars traditionally has the Memorial Day date - but will Disney release their two big guns only 3 weeks apart? Seems they would be competing with themselves at that point.
Of course, 2015 sounds too early for SW7 - so we shall see...

 

[Mr. Dent]

They wouldn't be competing 3 weeks apart. Most movies make the bulk of their money in that time frame.

 

[Wyrminarrd]

How would a Black Panther movie fit in with the other Marvel movies? I've always thought that the idea of small, isolated nations having tech far in advance of the world at large to be unbelievable. It can be made to work in comics and cartoons but for the big screen they'd have to change this aspect imo.

Could they do a Black Panther movie that isn't focused on Wakonda and therefore doesn't have to define what that country is like? That way people can imagine it however they like and it doesn't have the jar with the "realistic" feel of the world (as realistic as a world with giant green guys and norse gods running around can be anyway).

 

[Mr. Dent]

^ That's also something I've had a problem with. I believe the Studio itself has had problems with it as well.

 

[bubbadoom]

How would a Black Panther movie fit in with the other Marvel movies? I've always thought that the idea of small, isolated nations having tech far in advance of the world at large to be unbelievable. It can be made to work in comics and cartoons but for the big screen they'd have to change this aspect imo.

Could they do a Black Panther movie that isn't focused on Wakonda and therefore doesn't have to define what that country is like? That way people can imagine it however they like and it doesn't have the jar with the "realistic" feel of the world (as realistic as a world with giant green guys and norse gods running around can be anyway).

Audiences do not seem to have any problem with the advanced nature of Stark's tech, so I don't see why it would have a problem with Wakanda being similarly advanced.

Seems you have to have some of the movie in Wakanda or else what's the point - isn't that what sets him apart from other heros? I don't want to see a Thor movie that ignores Asgard, either.

 

[DrCosmic]

^This is definitely a discussion we've had before. The audience was in on the invention of Stark's tech as part of his journey. There is no: They like X in movie A so they'll automatically like X in movie B. That's not how storytelling works. But on the flip side, if you invite the audience in on the creation and genesis of this tech through their growing attachment to T'Challa, you can give Wakanda whatever tech you want, basically.

To answer the question, what sets Black Panther as a hero apart is the shadowy styling, the brilliant deductive mind and the more weaponized gadgets. That, in a way, is what sets the film apart, the political intrigue, the mental games that characters play with each other and a very visceral martial arts style. It connects with the MCU well, imho, because it's the genesis for Cap's shield, kind of putting it first on the timeline, but it's also got Vibranium, which famously ties into any villain plot, making Black Panther a very integral part of the current adventure. The Vibranium is the 'in' on either hand, including the hand of how you explain it's high techness. The Black Panther is just what happens when someone comes along who can exploit that to its maximum potential.