Fantastic Four reborn! - - - - Part 13

[Tymminator]

Because they cast the Storm's father with a run of the mill character actor and maybe you're back on board?

Whatever.

I guess it goes with the run of the mill Mole Man actor and the run of the mill Doom actor.

I didn't say I was back on board, per say, but I had to admit I was intrigued about an aspect, doesn't mean I'll watch the movie.

Stuff your attitude.

 

[Krystal]

I didn't say I was back on board, per say, but I had to admit I was intrigued about an aspect, doesn't mean I'll watch the movie.

Stuff your attitude.

Sure---I just was surprised that the casting of an unknown character actor could be enough to do so.

I guess hope and interest springs eternal.

 

[The Guard]

I see people still need to learn what "grounded" means. Doesn't necessarily mean boring or uninteresting.

And now people are complaining because they're going to incorporate real scientific concepts into The Fantastic Four VS it being a completely outlandish science fiction story?

(read between the lines, it's still going to be outlandish).

You all like this is a new thing for the Fantastic Four mythology. It's been going on for years.

Wanting a more serious film is not a kneejerk reaction to the first two films...it's the same type of reaction almost ANY sillier comic book movie has gotten over the last, oh, decade or so.

 

[Krystal]

Get a dictionary folks.

 

[Paradox1]

I see people still need to learn what "grounded" means. Doesn't necessarily mean boring or uninteresting.

And now people are complaining because they're going to incorporate real scientific concepts into The Fantastic Four VS it being a completely outlandish science fiction story?

(read between the lines, it's still going to be outlandish).

You all like this is a new thing for the Fantastic Four mythology. It's been going on for years.

Wanting a more serious film is not a kneejerk reaction to the first two films...it's the same type of reaction almost ANY sillier comic book movie has gotten over the last, oh, decade or so.

This+++ I don't remember where I heard this but they said. What grounded in reality means is normal people reactions to these unbelievable characters. Not nesscarly their powers or adventures being that way.

 

[Krystal]

This+++ I don't remember where I heard this but they said. What grounded in reality means is normal people reactions to these unbelievable characters. Not nesscarly their powers or adventures being that way.

So you think they keep using the word "grounded" simply to imply 'realistic reactions by people to amazing events' ??

Fine, but a lot of us think it's code talk for making the impressive, cool, cosmic "flight to the stars gone terribly wrong" origin into something a whole lot simpler--i.e. CHEAPER because they have no faith in this franchise as a blockbuster that can compete with the competition and don't want to spend money.

Be here next summer to eat crow as I will gladly do IF the movie is indeed a spectacular, large scale, visually impressive CBM movie.

I will hate the movie regardless because of the changes of the characters from the template first 40+ years BUT if the movie is a large scale CBM I will admit they weren't just being cheap.

By the way, one big action sequence at the end, ala' Chronicle ain't gonna do it for a 2015 CBM movie featuring Marvel's founding family.

This is a cheapie pretending to be "something different"----me 5/9/2014 Quote me on it

 

[EssayM]

Be here next summer to eat crow as I will gladly do IF the movie is indeed a spectacular, large scale, visually impressive CBM movie.

Just curious...could you give some examples of films you feel fit that definition, just to give a better idea of what you're looking for? The first one that comes to my mind is Avengers, but I can't imagine anyone spending that much money on an origin film, so I'm interested to know what you had in mind.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

Just curious...could you give some examples of films you feel fit that definition, just to give a better idea of what you're looking for? The first one that comes to my mind is Avengers, but I can't imagine anyone spending that much money on an origin film, so I'm interested to know what you had in mind.

I can't speak for Krystal, but, first of all, this shouldn't be an origin film. The Fantastic Four's origin isn't what defined them or made them special.

In the early 1960's, Fantastic Four became a sensation because they redefined what a comic-book should be.

They had visuals and events that were larger and grander than anything we had ever seen, but they did it in a way that made the characters feel more real than characters had before. They were 'grounded' in that way, but that's only one part of the equation. And 'grounded' by itself is nothing. It has to have grounded characters with spectacular settings.

It wasn't a 'coming of age' story. It reinvented comic books and science fiction. I firmly believe that Star Trek and Star Wars would not have been what they were if things like Fantastic Four hadn't come before.

This shouldn't look like any film we've ever seen before just like the comics didn't look like any comics that had come before. If Fox isn't willing to invest even a fraction of what's required to get the writers and director who can do that, they shouldn't do it.

Making a Fantastic Four film that doesn't capture the elements that made the Fantastic Four what they were is throwing the small amount of money they're willing to spend down the toilet.

Kinberg just said this about Apocalypse:

"We want to tell the Apocalypse story and there's massive scale and scope to telling that story. There's going to be set pieces that I suspect are going to be bigger than anything we've ever done in an X-Men movie before and he's a great character."

Fox should be saying things like that about Fantastic Four, but they refuse to take the property as seriously as they need to.

 

[guitarsingerguy]

Now I've never been a FF fan admittedly, but hasn't their main draw always been the dysfunctional family aspect?

 

[The.Brotherhood]

The Incredibles 2 will slap the reality on what this film should be representing in terms of being the Marvel's FIRST FAMILY.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

Now I've never been a FF fan admittedly, but hasn't their main draw always been the dysfunctional family aspect?

It has to be a combination of real feeling characters with grand adventures. If you just do dysfunctional family, it's not very 'Fantastic', is it?

It's not 'The Great Santini'.

 

[C. Lee]

It has to be a combination of real feeling characters with grand adventures. If you just do dysfunctional family, it's not very 'Fantastic', is it?

It's not 'The Great Santini'.

I wonder how many get the reference.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

I wonder how many get the reference.

You calling me old?


Any young whippersnappers who don't know the reference can look it up on Wikipedia.

. . . just like Josh Trank did to find out who the Fantastic Four were.

 

[Tymminator]

you calling me old?


Any young whippersnappers who don't know the reference can look it up on wikipedia.

. . . Just like josh trank did to find out who the fantastic four were.

Burn!t:

 

[Dark Raven]

You calling me old?


Any young whippersnappers who don't know the reference can look it up on Wikipedia.

. . . just like Josh Trank did to find out who the Fantastic Four were.

And just like you did to find out who Ashley Tisdale was.

 

[C. Lee]

You calling me old?

No....well informed.

Any young whippersnappers who don't know the reference can look it up on Wikipedia.

. . . just like Josh Trank did to find out who the Fantastic Four were.

From the sounds of this movie...he didn't even do that.......

 

[Dark Raven]

Is the Great Santini a reference to Airwolf, re Stringfellow Hawke's buddy Dominic Santini, played by Ernest Borgnine?

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

Is the Great Santini a reference to Airwolf, re Stringfellow Hawke's buddy Dominic Santini, played by Ernest Borgnine?

Talk about old.

Of course there was also Dr. Santini who was impersonated by the Mad Thinker who turned the Thing against the FF around abouts issue sixty-something.

 

[metaphysician]

Non compete clauses? Common sense? Jaime Alexander saying it?

Take your pick.

Jaime said, IIRC, that she couldn't take it because she had other film obligations. That is *not* the same as "I am banned from working for another studio."

As for non-compete clauses, again: evidence that any such clause exists?

I'm not saying its impossible to be the case. I'm saying that, if you have no evidence, you shouldn't state it as fact, as opposed to supposition.

 

[CyclopsWasRight]

He's really good, but flying under the radar for his whole career---maybe this will change that!

every actor needs a break-out role. This could be his.

 

[Dark Raven]

every actor needs a break-out role. This could be his.

Every actor in this production needs to break out of this hole they've landed themselves in!

 

[C. Lee]

Is the Great Santini a reference to Airwolf, re Stringfellow Hawke's buddy Dominic Santini, played by Ernest Borgnine?

An award winning movie about a "dysfunctional" family http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0079239/?ref_=nv_sr_1

 

[CyclopsWasRight]

I interpret grounded as presenting fantastical elements in a believable way

Every actor in this production needs to break out of this hole they've landed themselves in!

They seem happy to be on-board

 

[Krystal]

Reg Cathay should be happy to be in a theatrical movie since he's mainly a tv actor.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I interpret grounded as presenting fantastical elements in a believable way

Considering the budget and talk from the cast, I'd call it an excuse for being cheap. Unless they have a tumbler of course. Then all beats are off.