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Fantastic Four reborn! - Part 17

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I agree with this and based on that feeling and everything else we've seen and heard, I have close to zero expectation we'll see anything that looks close to the Fantastic Four.

BUT, if they surprise all of us with a film that actually features the Fantastic Four, I'll see it because that's what I want.

Could they have a deceptive trailer that looks like the FF even when they aren"t the FF in the film? Possibly, but based on everything I know so far, I expect this to be so far off-base that there won't be any ambiguity.

If they just feature traditional 616 FF action figures in the movie and the team here laugh at that and how exaggerated and off base these figures are from what they're really like in reality, will that be enough FF for you in the movie to go see it? :oldrazz:
 
Take this with a mountain of salt, but apparently someone who read the script says this is the plot.

Reed is a genius convenience store clerk with Ben. Reed's parents don't care about him, and Ben's dad is abusive. They're good friends and have each other's backs. Reed writes a paper for community college on teleportation that attracts the attention of Dr. Franklin Storm, CEO of the Baxter Building research center.

Storm has a son, Johnny, and an adoptive daughter, Sue, whose father, Storm's old partner, died in an experiment gone wrong. Johnny and Sue are party kids, and Sue is particularly disdainful of science. Reed and Sue don't get along at first.

Victor Doomashev is a anti-social Eastern European computer programmer and hacktivist who calls himself "Doom". He hates the 1%, particularly Storm, whom he claims corrupts science for profit.

Storm uses Reed's paper to complete some equations on a machine to access another dimension, the N-Zone. Reed invites Ben to watch the machine being turned on. Sue and Johnny are also there. Doom manages to hack into the Baxter Building's servers and use a computer virus to damage the machine, which explodes. Reed, Sue, Johnny and Ben are exposed to otherwordly energy and become mutants with powers that they can't control.

Storm takes them to the Baxter Building and creates containment suits for their powers. They begin to train. Reed and Storm also begin developing a way to revert the accident. Sue blames Reed for everything, but they eventually become friends and then a couple. Ben can switch off his powers when he's not in danger. Johnny changes colors based on heat intensity, and Sue has some borderline telekinetic thing. Reed is pretty much Reed.

Doom finds out that the four have acquired powers and becomes angry it's not him, so he comes up with a plan to break into the Baxter Building to access the N-Zone through the rebuild machine. As a distraction, he reprograms a bunch of stolen military drones, the "Doombots", to attack the building. The four come together as a team for the first time and save people.

Doom activates the machine and gets technopathy powers or something, basically energy blasts and making machines obey to him, and a fight ensues. The machine goes critical, and, in order to prevent it from exploding and destroying the city, the four push into it and Storm shuts it off.

There's a countdown before it reaches critical mass. Inside the N-Zone, the four battle Doom again, and manage to leave him trapped there after he disfigures himself soaking up too much power. The Four manage to escape, but Ben gets the blunt of it to protect Reed and can't switch back.

The machine is destroyed, Doom is gone, the four have learned to work as a team, and Reed vows to find a cure for Ben. And it ends there.




That's just lazy and stupid enough to be true, unfortunately. If this is actually the plot I hope everyone involved with this gets giardia.

That sounds just tepid, uninspired and as ridiculously by-the-numbers as you can get, so that sounds pretty plausible considering its Fox. I really hope Disney isn't really planning on giving Trank a Star Wars film instead he's relegated to directing straight-to-Netflix crap after this.
 
Take this with a mountain of salt, but apparently someone who read the script says this is the plot.

Reed is a genius convenience store clerk with Ben. Reed's parents don't care about him, and Ben's dad is abusive. They're good friends and have each other's backs. Reed writes a paper for community college on teleportation that attracts the attention of Dr. Franklin Storm, CEO of the Baxter Building research center.

Storm has a son, Johnny, and an adoptive daughter, Sue, whose father, Storm's old partner, died in an experiment gone wrong. Johnny and Sue are party kids, and Sue is particularly disdainful of science. Reed and Sue don't get along at first.

Victor Doomashev is a anti-social Eastern European computer programmer and hacktivist who calls himself "Doom". He hates the 1%, particularly Storm, whom he claims corrupts science for profit.

Storm uses Reed's paper to complete some equations on a machine to access another dimension, the N-Zone. Reed invites Ben to watch the machine being turned on. Sue and Johnny are also there. Doom manages to hack into the Baxter Building's servers and use a computer virus to damage the machine, which explodes. Reed, Sue, Johnny and Ben are exposed to otherwordly energy and become mutants with powers that they can't control.

Storm takes them to the Baxter Building and creates containment suits for their powers. They begin to train. Reed and Storm also begin developing a way to revert the accident. Sue blames Reed for everything, but they eventually become friends and then a couple. Ben can switch off his powers when he's not in danger. Johnny changes colors based on heat intensity, and Sue has some borderline telekinetic thing. Reed is pretty much Reed.

Doom finds out that the four have acquired powers and becomes angry it's not him, so he comes up with a plan to break into the Baxter Building to access the N-Zone through the rebuild machine. As a distraction, he reprograms a bunch of stolen military drones, the "Doombots", to attack the building. The four come together as a team for the first time and save people.

Doom activates the machine and gets technopathy powers or something, basically energy blasts and making machines obey to him, and a fight ensues. The machine goes critical, and, in order to prevent it from exploding and destroying the city, the four push into it and Storm shuts it off.

There's a countdown before it reaches critical mass. Inside the N-Zone, the four battle Doom again, and manage to leave him trapped there after he disfigures himself soaking up too much power. The Four manage to escape, but Ben gets the blunt of it to protect Reed and can't switch back.

The machine is destroyed, Doom is gone, the four have learned to work as a team, and Reed vows to find a cure for Ben. And it ends there.





That's just lazy and stupid enough to be true, unfortunately. If this is actually the plot I hope everyone involved with this gets giardia.


Not only is the person who wrote that a complete idiot, but to try and pass it off as the true script only clouds the little bit of information that has been revealed through cast comments.
 
Not only is the person who wrote that a complete idiot, but to try and pass it off as the true script only clouds the little bit of information that has been revealed through cast comments.

Who knows if the script is true? Or if it was - with all the daily rewrites going on the set - what version of the script would it even represent? But based on the things we've heard it certainly doesn't seem implausible.

How does it cloud the information revealed through cast comments and other facts? If anything it corroborates them. The film was almost entirely shot indoors at Celtic Media Centre in Baton Rouge and the leaks show a ton of green screen so the fact that the majority of the action either takes place in the building or the "N-Zone" makes total sense. We also know that the FF are "kids with disabilities" in "containment suits" so it's no stretch of the imagination to realize that they can't control their powers if said powers are disabilities and need to be contained.

We also have very strong indicators that the budget for this film is much lower than all other comic book movies being made these days so doing things like having Jamie Bell switch off his Thing "powers" when he's not in danger allows them to save a ton of money.

So yeah sure this supposed script could be totally bogus but it certainly doesn't sound bogus to anyone who's followed the production.
 
They're still doing daily rewrites even now after filming has finished? :oldrazz:

Although that wouldn't surprise me. I'd even expect them to be doing daily rewrites while the film is playing in theatres.
 
Oh man... It sounds plausible. It sounds all so fricking plausible.
 
They're still doing daily rewrites even now after filming has finished? :oldrazz:

Although that wouldn't surprise me. I'd even expect them to be doing daily rewrites while the film is playing in theatres.

What if the announced "FF 2" in 2017 is not a sequel but actually a reboot of the reboot? With enough tries maybe Fox will someday get it right?
 
What if the announced "FF 2" in 2017 is not a sequel but actually a reboot of the reboot? With enough tries maybe Fox will someday get it right?

That's like that theory that if you leave a monkey in a room alone with a typewriter for long enough, they can eventually produce a Shakespeare play.

That'll be so sad if FF2 is a reboot of the reboot

Then the positive people around here can definitely say not to judge this movie too soon, but to wait until the reboot. :o
 
Sounds like Kinberg and Trank were really handcuffed with the budget. Not other way to explain it. I can't really put the blame on them when you only have a few dozen million to work with on a summer superhero tentpole.
 
Sounds like Kinberg and Trank were really handcuffed with the budget. Not other way to explain it. I can't really put the blame on them when you only have a few dozen million to work with on a summer superhero tentpole.

how does it sound like they were handcuffed by the budget.

DOn't we not even know what the budget is
 
That script sounds like all those Avengers 'leaks', just putting something together based on everything we know so far
 
Sounds like Kinberg and Trank were really handcuffed with the budget. Not other way to explain it. I can't really put the blame on them when you only have a few dozen million to work with on a summer superhero tentpole.

You're jumping to conclusions and there are always other possibilities.

That script sounds like all those Avengers 'leaks', just putting something together based on everything we know so far

Probably. Personally I'm giving the benefit of the doubt when it comes to the supposed script rumour as well as the reality tv rumour. If only because I'd really need to be convinced that they could be that stupid (even in light of everything else).
 
That's just lazy and stupid enough to be true, unfortunately. If this is actually the plot I hope everyone involved with this gets giardia*.

*a genus of anaerobic flagellated protozoan parasites of the phylum Sarcomastigophora that colonise and reproduce in the small intestines of several vertebrates, causing giardiasis.

Oh man... It sounds plausible. It sounds all so fricking plausible.

Distressingly so.
 
That script sounds like all those Avengers 'leaks', just putting something together based on everything we know so far

But ... but if someone posts something anonymously on the Internet - it just has to be true! Hahaha.

You could be right on that. I think what we're all discussing more is the fact that it doesn't matter if it's true or not - it's the fact that it could be true and none of us would be surprised if it was.
 
Yeah, I mean it totally sounds probable.

Just seems a bit odd it surfaces immediately after Kibbel spilled the beans on Victor Von Nothing Like The Comics.
 
It's hard to say what the budget is. We do know there wasn't any overtly expensive location set pieces shot (afaik there was no papz shots or vids of any kind of them actually filming on location? I think some stuff getting blown up and the like would have got some attention) so that would suggest the location shoots were pretty low key and the action and fx is something they have used the interior sound stage & green screen for.

My best guess is around $100mil. Would be surprised if it's significantly higher than that based on what we have seen of the production, and would not be surprised if it's lower.
 
And I would think the 'reality show contestants' thing is utterly bogus.

Everything so far suggests it will be a UFF based storyline (Reed recruited into a Government run think tank, portal origin, etc).

The lesser of the 2 evils I suppose...:csad:
 
I think it's way under 100 mil. Probably half that, if even that.
There are no stars that command a lot of money. There are no indications of expensive location shooting and with the "lo-fi" comments floating around...
 
And I would think the 'reality show contestants' thing is utterly bogus.

Everything so far suggests it will be a UFF based storyline (Reed recruited into a Government run think tank, portal origin, etc).

The lesser of the 2 evils I suppose...:csad:

Depends which way you're looking at this movie. If it's already changed this much, they might as well change it completely and make it as bad as they possibly can. That means it's better to be the reality show than something that might have more of a semblance of a serious plot.
 
I think it's way under 100 mil. Probably half that, if even that.
There are no stars that command a lot of money. There are no indications of expensive location shooting and with the "lo-fi" comments floating around...

I was thinking $50 million as well. The only purpose of this rights grab is to reset the cinematic reversion clock on the FF character family. So why spend more?
 
Chronicle had a budget of $12 Million. Dragon Ball Evolution, which was only made to retain the rights as well, apparently only had a budget of $30 Million. Wouldn't be surprised if Fantastic Four's numbers were somwhere between that.
 
Do we even have a logo yet?
Nope, they haven't even officially revealed the damn title yet.
Seriously, they haven't released anything, anything, about this production yet, which is mind-boggling crazy.
I was thinking $50 million as well. The only purpose of this rights grab is to reset the cinematic reversion clock on the FF character family. So why spend more?

True. I'm really hoping things worsen for FOX, they can't put the movie in theaters in time, and the rights end up reverting back to Marvel.
 
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