Green Arrow series in the works at The CW - Part 2

[Wheels]

All things that don't matter on TV. Look good, fit the role, that's all there is to it. I say she looks old. I've not had the pleasure of spending time in her company so I can only comment on how she looks.

Your comment about Rachel Dawes in The Dark Knight might be what he's referring to. Can't be sure though.

 

[gohei_]

Well right at the end we see him get that arrow through his chest so that probably accounts for that scar. In the preview with Deathstroke sticking the knife to him, probably accounts for the scar on his left side.

Apparently they will be showing us how he gets the tattoos and scars.

Yes you're right, so I think and hope they will do that with more scars.

So you mean he gets the tattoos on the island?

 

[ChickenScratch]

Ahem...

Oliver Queen, aged 27 (his birth year is stated to be 1985) played by Stephen Amell, aged 31.

Thea Queen, aged 17 played by Willa Holland, aged 21.

John Diggle, maximum age 36 played by David Ramsey, aged 40.


And these are the ones whose ages are either confirmed or sussable from the dialogue. As you can see, neither the characters nor the actors who play them 'skew young', as you so describe. Even the youngest character on the show is aged 17, pretty old as far as 'kid sister' side characters go. Likewise, all characters are played by actors a little older than them. The only one who's a little young is the police detective who's aged 43; which is slightly young to play the father of a woman in her mid-twenties.



Congratulations. You've identified a love triangle; one of the oldest and commonest relationship archetypes in both, fiction and real life.


Now, onto something more positive:

I will conceded that the acting isn't top notch. However, it's certainly adequate - especially relative to everything else out there, particularly the CW - and suffices for the story's current complexity. Moreover, the action is certainly well above average. Choreography is pretty complex and the camera stays on it, rather than being short cuts spliced together.

Also, anyone else really digging Diggle (the bodyguard)? I feel the guy really came across as badass this episode; going toe to toe against the supervillain of the episode. Between his badassery, his military background and propensity for guns, as well as his getting closer to Ollie's secret, does anyone else think/hope he's the show's Arsenal/Roy Harper?

It's a CW show, they skew young. Doesn't matter if the actors are older, as long as they don't look older ... like Black Canary. Good job of finding or guessing ages though.

Yes I know what a love triangle is. I wasn't pointing out that, I was pointing out the girl playing Rachel who looks like a month old Halloween pumpkin.

 

[Reek]

It's a CW show, they skew young. Doesn't matter if the actors are older, as long as they don't look older ... like Black Canary. Good job of finding or guessing ages though.

Yes I know what a love triangle is. I wasn't pointing out that, I was pointing out the girl playing Rachel who looks like a month old Halloween pumpkin.

 

[MarvelKnight]

The dialogue and interaction between characters when there isn't fighting going on feels kind of soap operaish.. at least that's the vibe I got. Still going to give this some time cause the action is sweet and I want to see Deathstroke. I've accepted this is 'Green Arrow Begins' but I am close to watching this on mute lol. Still hate the Queen Voice Overs.

 

[vantheman77]

I don't expect to see metahuman DC characters like Superman, Wonder Woman, Flash, etc. in this series. I think it will likely be a DCU populated with non-powered heroes.

 

[MarvelKnight]

Lol, that's good, cause they've said from jump there'd be no powers. Personally, I think that is ridiculous, but the action is great so far. Looking forward to seeing Deathstroke and Huntress.

 

[Llama_Shepherd]

Perhaps there could be a mandate from WB in future to say they should keep it ambiguous to fit in with the larger potential DCCU.

 

[Human Torch]

It would be interesting if DC creates a connective TV universe the way Marvel has with feature films.Spin-offs,cross-overs,it could really be something.

 

[Wheels]

Lol, that's good, cause they've said from jump there'd be no powers. Personally, I think that is ridiculous, but the action is great so far. Looking forward to seeing Deathstroke and Huntress.

I think no superpowers works for a Green Arrow or Batman project. It it was a Wonder Woman show or something, then that's a problem.

 

[MarvelKnight]

I think no superpowers works for a Green Arrow or Batman project. It it was a Wonder Woman show or something, then that's a problem.

I get why they did it, and i'm cool with it, for now. I'm just waiting for the eventual bastardization of a character that normally has powers being done in a ****** way just to satisfy their 'no powers' initiative. (namely Black Canary if she dons the fishnets) Don't get me wrong, I want this show to do well, but I'm a cynic by nature, still hoping for the best.

 

[silenceKILLS]

It's a CW show, they skew young. Doesn't matter if the actors are older, as long as they don't look older ... like Black Canary. Good job of finding or guessing ages though.

Yes I know what a love triangle is. I wasn't pointing out that, I was pointing out the girl playing Rachel who looks like a month old Halloween pumpkin.

Dinah Laurel Lance is 28 in the show according to the pilot script which is online and pretty easy to find, if you look. CW starting to become a network that doesn't aim for the tween demo, though they still do have the teen shows but so does most networks. Also most actors are older than the characters they play on TV.

 

[Deathstroke]

It's a CW show, they skew young. Doesn't matter if the actors are older, as long as they don't look older ... like Black Canary. Good job of finding or guessing ages though.

Yes I know what a love triangle is. I wasn't pointing out that, I was pointing out the girl playing Rachel who looks like a month old Halloween pumpkin.

Kate Cassidy is believable as a young legal aid though. It works. I'm glad she doesn't look like a teenager. And she's much easier on the eyes than botoxed Durance at least.

This is the first CW show I've ever seen where the female regulars are actually tolerable. I actually liked Willa Holland and her character surprisingly. I think it's because the Osteroff curse is winding down and they aren't trying to force 'girl power' on us on shows that don't require it.

 

[MarvelKnight]

Kate Cassidy is believable as a young legal aid though. It works. I'm glad she doesn't look like a teenager. And she's much easier on the eyes than botoxed Durance at least.

This is the first CW show I've ever seen where the female regulars are actually tolerable. I actually liked Willa Holland and her character surprisingly. I think it's because the Osteroff curse is winding down and they aren't trying to force 'girl power' on us on shows that don't require it.

The only one I can't stand on the show really so far, is olivers 'best bud' tommy.. Not at all believable to me, and the eventual confrontation between oliver and him about laurel.. well.. i already see myself laughing. cause you know it's coming at some point.

I do like Katie Cassidy so far though, which surprised me.

 

[Wheels]

Welling was like 25 playing 14 in Smallville Season 1.

 

[The Squirrel]

This is the first CW show I've ever seen where the female regulars are actually tolerable. I actually liked Willa Holland and her character surprisingly. I think it's because the Osteroff curse is winding down and they aren't trying to force 'girl power' on us on shows that don't require it.

Nikkita has good lead roles.

 

[protocida]

Great episode, much better than the pilot.

I felt that China White was rather useless overall, though I believe they're setting her up to return in the future.

Also, there's definetly someone on the island with him.

 

[Deathstroke]

Welling was like 25 playing 14 in Smallville Season 1.

Which was pretty silly and contributed to how weird his performance was.

Nikkita has good lead roles.

I'll give it a chance, thanks.

 

[MarvelKnight]

Great episode, much better than the pilot.

I felt that China White was rather useless overall, though I believe they're setting her up to return in the future.

Also, there's definetly someone on the island with him.

And the fight between her and Green Arrow wasn't even that good in the end. It's sad when the body guard has a better showing against her than the 'hero'

 

[Reek]

And the fight between her and Green Arrow wasn't even that good in the end. It's sad when the body guard has a better showing against her than the 'hero'

well Arrow did save him... They needed to have the body guard have a bad ass scene... hes going to figure out he is arrow and obviously contribute. so it was necessary.

 

[Sawyer]

Kate Cassidy is believable as a young legal aid though. It works. I'm glad she doesn't look like a teenager. And she's much easier on the eyes than botoxed Durance at least.

No, she just acts like one.

This is the first CW show I've ever seen where the female regulars are actually tolerable. I actually liked Willa Holland and her character surprisingly. I think it's because the Osteroff curse is winding down and they aren't trying to force 'girl power' on us on shows that don't require it.

The Vampire Diaries...

 

[protocida]

Press Release for "Damages". There's a pretty big spoiler.

Spoiler

DC COMICS’ VILLAIN DEATHSTROKE APPEARS ON THE ISLAND WITH OLIVER — After Detective Lance (Paul Blackthorne) arrests Oliver (Stephen Amell) for murder, Oliver tells Moira (Susanna Thompson) the only lawyer he’ll allow to represent him is Laurel (Katie Cassidy). Laurel takes the case which puts her at odds with her father. Oliver offers to take a polygraph in front Detective Lance but things get tense when Lance asks him if anyone else was on the island with him. Oliver flashes back to when he got his first scar, courtesy of Deathstroke (guest star Jeffrey Robinson). Colin Donnell, David Ramsey and Willa Holland also star. Michael Shultz directed the episode written by Wendy Mericle & Ben Sokolowski

 

[MarvelKnight]

well Arrow did save him... They needed to have the body guard have a bad ass scene... hes going to figure out he is arrow and obviously contribute. so it was necessary.

Sure, he did, but that doesn't change the fact that overall, the fight was still better than the one with Green Arrow and China White. That's just what I think.

 

[mr. peasant]

Sure, he did, but that doesn't change the fact that overall, the fight was still better than the one with Green Arrow and China White. That's just what I think.

I think it has to do with logistics, money and time.

The show's fight style is somewhat choreography-centric and in all likelihood, the show's schedule only had the time and money to do one really intricate fight over two - especially in this early stage of production.

As such, only one of the two fight scenes this episode could be fully fleshed out. In which case, they went with the former since that one had more people involved (hence, needed more attention to design anyway) and from an audience perspective, there was a lot more at stake:

Does Laurel get hurt? Does Ollie let slip his secret fighting abilities? Does the bodyguard intervene in time? Does the bodyguard get killed?

 

[Reek]

Sure, he did, but that doesn't change the fact that overall, the fight was still better than the one with Green Arrow and China White. That's just what I think.

oh i agree... but i just think they were holding back on that for future episodes... I like the body guard lol even though every time i see him i think of him being skinned in Dexter.