Green Arrow series in the works at The CW - Part 2

[3dman27]

will the premire be two hours or one?

 

[HighFivingMF]

will the premire be two hours or one?

One.

 

[3dman27]

thanks

 

[Pepsiguy2]

"Hey look, a costume pic! Let's all over react!"

hate how people have unrealistic expectations

 

[Human Torch]

I hate when people over react to people who don't instantly and blindly love a costume pic.

 

[Nave 'Torment']

people love costume pics?

 

[Lencho01]

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/tvnews.php?id=95467

First look at Deadshot.

Looks kinda funny.

 

[Pepsiguy2]

I hate when people over react to people who don't instantly and blindly love a costume pic.

If you're implying that I blindly love Deadshot's costume, I don't. I think it works but it's not amazing or anything. Some people just seem to think costumes from the Avengers or TDKR should be on TV.

 

[Lencho01]

http://insidetv.ew.com/2012/10/03/arrow-democrat/

Oct 3 2012 10:35 AM ET
'Arrow' not a Democrat, star says

by James Hibberd

The CW’s Arrow is not only the network’s best new show, it’s also one of the the best freshman fall shows on any network. Is it a CW bite-sized hoodie-wearing version of Batman Begins? A bit. But if you’re going to be inspired by a superhero origin movie, that’s a great place to start. Below are six things to know about The Green Arrow’s return to TV next week:

1. He’s just called Arrow: Though Arrow is based on The Green Arrow comic books, showrunners Marc Guggenheim and Andrew Kreisberg have shortened the character’s name, reportedly to sound less comic-book-ish.

2. He’s not a liberal. The DC Comics version of Arrow is famously considered a very left-wing character. Kreisberg told critics last July that some of that sensibility will remain, noting “there are some echoes of the One Percenters and Occupy Wall Street within the show.” But star Stephen Amell later told EW that the “liberal” tag was overblown by the media. “I think it’s a mistake to say Oliver Queen is a liberal superhero targeting the wealthy,” Amell says. “He’s targeting people who abuse their powers. Now is that mostly going to be the wealthy? Sure. Is Arrow a Democrat? Absolutely not. Is he a Republican? No, he’s not that either. He’s an idealist. And he’s going after a certain type of person, not a certain class of people.”

3. The island flashbacks will continue through the entire series. Flashbacks showing how a callow young rich kid became a lethal crime fighter will be a major part of the show. “The Arrow is the only character I can think of who can sustain a 5-year origin story — because of the island,” Guggenheim says. “The last episode of the series will be Arrow seeing the [rescue] boat in the pilot.” Now that’s proving you know your story — a producer that will actually tell you what’s in the series finale before the first episode airs!

4. Arrow plays rough. He’s not like Superman or Batman with some firm (and, let’s face it, impractical) moral code against killing psychopathic criminals. Arrow isn’t out to hurt anybody, but if he’s forced to defend himself, he’s not going to aim for your legs. “Every hero’s actions are influenced by his origin story,” Guggenheim says. “For Bruce Wayne [Batman], seeing his parents murdered with gun violence left him with this code that death is not necessary. For Oliver, his experience happened on this island. It’s a very violent and dark place where other men lost their lives and their souls. He’s a moral man and a good man and he believes in justice but the tools he uses to weed out justice are heavily honed by the crucible of his time on the island …Arrow has a popcorn feel about it, but we’re trying to be real about the story we’re telling.”

5. Two major new characters will be introduced in future episodes: Arrow will eventually meet a mysterious fellow millionaire played by Torchwood‘s John Barrowman, and encounter one DC Comics’ ferocious females — The Huntress, a mob boss’ vengeful daughter, played by Aussie TV actress Jessica De Gouw.

6. Keep an eye on Laurel Lance (Katie Cassidy): In the comics, Arrow’s former flame eventually morphs into his crime-fighting partner Black Canary (guess the name Robin was taken). Producers haven’t confirmed this will likewise happen in the show, but we say it’s a safe bet. “Everyone wants to know when Laurel turns into the Black Canary,” Cassidy says. “And will there be fishnets.”

 

[3dman27]

i'm looking forward to the show

 

[The Squirrel]

Not sure about the Island flashbacks being stretched out for the entire series, but it could be interesting if they can keep it fresh. Hopefully they're not in every episode.

 

[Nave 'Torment']

I don't care what anyone says, but that little tidbit about the flash-backs going back and forth and being clustered around the entire series? I think that's just a brilliant way of telling the origin story! I suppose a lot of it is derived from Batman Begins but at the same time Green Arrow's always been the poor-man's Crusader (Hooded Crusader?) and for a good cause as well: I know they're underplaying the liberal/Occupy Wall-Street edge because CW isn't going for a political story (which is a shame in my opinion, even with The Dark Knight and Nolan's reticence on taking a political stance, which is arguably a typical position for any superhero, you still had some of those political themes addressed so that the audience could've made up their own minds about it. The superhero exists outside of politics, but at the same time his existence is sort of used to comment on what's really wrong with politics: to show exactly why he is outside of it).

As a poor-man's crusader, Arrow could've taken that stance. And what a Robin Hood parallel that would've been! I hope some of those original ideas are still there. Hell, you can't be an idealist and not think about what's politically correct and not. Maybe as he grows up, and the audience grows along with him, some of that would come to view.

I think most of it has to do with the ideologies of the show-runners themselves, and also the fact that by giving him a more bad-ass / conservative appeal by killing off goons they're trying to show that Machiavellian side instead of the liberal democrat side. Which is fine. He's a vigilante after all. The sort Batman continued to voice against in his films. So there's your distinction. And as a fan I'm buying it.

Clustering the origin is brilliant as well. Sure it'll remind people of LOST and I guess this might put off some viewers, but considering CW's history with Smallville, it's as if with this show they've sort of embraced both those worlds of Batman and CW's Superman: on one hand you're showing this origin story, and on a parallel level you're giving us what he did after he becomes the hero of the day. Not unlike how DC Comics would use flashbacks to reintegrate the backstory.

Like I said, I'm really looking forward to this!

 

[Nave 'Torment']

This John Barrowman...

I hope it isn't Bruce Wayne.

And since we're getting Black Canary and Speedy as it is, Huntress seems kinda redundant. But the Batman parallels will be hard to ignore: Dinah Laurel as the ex-crush / lawyer ala Rachel Dawse, and a sexy masked crimefighter who was the mob-boss' disgruntled daughter? Isn't that Selina Kyle from The Long Halloween?

 

[Docker2.0]

This John Barrowman...

I hope it isn't Bruce Wayne.

And since we're getting Black Canary and Speedy as it is, Huntress seems kinda redundant.

Don't worry! It's WB! It makes sense for Bruce Wayne to appear in the show but it won't happen. That's how WB works. If it makes sense, do the EXACT opposite.

 

[HighFivingMF]

Don't worry! It's WB! It makes sense for Bruce Wayne to appear in the show but it won't happen. That's how WB works. If it makes sense, do the EXACT opposite.

 

[Docker2.0]

I don't know how to say it any clearer.

Bruce Wayne wasn't allowed to show up on any Smallville episodes for whatever reason, even though they are in the same company. Same thing with Wonder Woman. This Green Arrow show is based of TDK's Batman so it would make sense for two nonpowered super heroes who are in the same universe in the comics and possibly movies to make an appearance but for whatever the reason, WB won't do it. It blows my mind!

 

[HighFivingMF]

I don't know how to say it any clearer.

Not putting Bruce Wayne in a Green Arrow show seems like an odd thing to be mad about. And I don't see how Bruce Wayne not showing up in a show that's completely unrelated to him doesn't make any sense.

 

[Docker2.0]

Not putting Bruce Wayne in a Green Arrow show seems like an odd thing to be mad about. And I don't see how Bruce Wayne not showing up in a show that's completely unrelated to him doesn't make any sense.

I'm not mad at all. And they have so many Batman a couple of Batman related characters showing up, so why not the man himself? Plus they are in the same universe.


Hey! Let me whine and complain! It's what I do!

 

[Nave 'Torment']

Don't worry! It's WB! It makes sense for Bruce Wayne to appear in the show but it won't happen. That's how WB works. If it makes sense, do the EXACT opposite.

Not putting Bruce Wayne in a Green Arrow show seems like an odd thing to be mad about. And I don't see how Bruce Wayne not showing up in a show that's completely unrelated to him doesn't make any sense.

Docker2.0 was being sarcastic. And I think you were talking about my grumble about Bruce making an appearance? The reason I said that is because I don't want this guy to make an appearance as Bruce Wayne. If it's Christian Bale I'd be flippin ecstatic.

But more importantly, instead of giving the cameo to Bruce Wayne, as a fan I'd love to see that appearance go to Hal Jordan. But the premise with this guy seems otherwise suspicious: "millionaire with a mysterious past" immediately reminds me of Wayne. I'm not at all supportive of a live-action Batman-reboot in any form this close to the end of TDK. Bale dammit!

Unless he's Lex Luthor. That's another story completely.

Bruce Wayne wasn't allowed to show up on any Smallville episodes for whatever reason, even though they are in the same company. Same thing with Wonder Woman. This Green Arrow show is based of TDK's Batman so it would make sense for two nonpowered super heroes who are in the same universe in the comics and possibly movies to make an appearance but for whatever the reason, WB won't do it. It blows my mind!

In retrospect, I don't know how good it would've been. Sure, seeing a young Bruce Wayne standing on those rooftops next to Clark would've been ideal. It'd be the Worlds Finest and holy **** would that have been awesome! Especially with those proto-Justice League episodes!

But I completely understand why they didn't mix Batman up with the rest of Smallville or Superman for that matter. It makes Gotham City stand on its own, and Nolan's trilogy have this sort of unique self-contained quality that, honestly, I think more of DC's heroes ought to go for. But that's another discussion entirely. The reason I don't want Bruce Wayne to make an appearnce on Arrow is because they'll never get Bale for the part, and I don't want to see someone else as Bruce Wayne for another good half-decade or more.

 

[solidsnake86]

Putting batman on the show is just not a good idea because people would probably be more interested in batman than Arrow. I remember the birds of prey tv. Half the time everyone wanted batman to make an appearance.

If you want Arrow to stand out on his own, the character needs to be well written and the show needs a plan of where they want to take the character. It seems like they do have a plan.

 

[gohei_]

I really like the idea of seeing island flashbacks all through the season, but it might as well turn out cheesy as hell. For example, it shouldn't be used solely for the purpose of showing how he learned a specific skill mere moments after he's shown using it in the present.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Not a big fan of the jam jar lid stuck on Deadshot's face.

 

[the dmg]

http://insidetv.ew.com/2012/10/03/arrow-democrat/

Not really a show that I was going to invest time in beforehand, but what I've seen and with this tidbit, it's piqued my interest.

 

[charl_huntress]

The commercials I saw during the Supernatural premiere looked good.

 

[flickchick85]

Not a big fan of the jam jar lid stuck on Deadshot's face.

Me neither. It reminds me of how they did Mad Eye Moody's crazy eye in the HP movies, and I always hated that. It (and this) looked like a toy/prop.