Help: Dumbest Batman Movie Moments

[Blaztro]

Also, when Riddler says "Joygasm".

 

[TMC1982]

B89
-Vicki needs to learn the truth for their story to be complete, so I have no problem with that, but the execution is lousy: just a cut to Alfred with Vicki standing there, and she doesn't even seem surprised by what she's seeing (and puts the focus on "are we gonna try to love each other")!
-She doesn't, she says "Allie," short for Alexander.
-Well, they were arrested, and beside, it's much more effective staging the way it is.
BR
-Alright, I still don't understand this one at all; I even read Gene Siskel criticizing the character. Without Max Shreck, you have no movie (and I know the BR haters would say that's okay). He serves to spin both The Penguin and Catwoman on their paths, and in a movie full of people immersed in animalistic guises, acts as the most and least human participant at once. Plus, in that movie Gotham needs a golden boy in the Lex Luthor type.
-It's just a sound effect to indicate the backward movement of the record, I don't think it's dumb.
-Batman's suspicious, he often is. Of course he wouldn't take The Penguin completely at his word straightaway.
-Yeahhhh, I don't want it to seem like I'm just disagreeing for the sake of it, or being rude or something, but the entire movie is internal conflict, for Batman, Catwoman, and sometimes even Penguin. Bruce may not have his own subplot, but his relationships with the villains and how they reflect the aspects of himself they reflect is his internal conflict, the way I see it.
Batman Begins
-What's wrong with the swordfighting?

Anyway, a few that came to my mind just now:
-The Joker throwing down the gauntlet to Batman by saying "I have taken off my makeup..." Well, no, you haven't, just the opposite. And if this is supposed to be a disguise, YOU'VE ALREADY BEEN ON TV WITH THE BLEACHED WHITE SKIN.
-That childish, goofy smile on Batman's face after Chase confesses she actually prefers Bruce (yes, I'm including Batman Forever, I mostly like it).
-Bruce going "undercover" as a homeless man in Batman Begins. I'm confused; according to Ra's, the world was too small for someone like Bruce Wayne to disappear...even to Bhutan. Yet he can go incognito on a busy Gotham street in the middle of the day?

In one of the early drafts for Batman Returns Max Shreck was to be revealed as the Penguin's "normal" brother. In another draft, Harvey Dent (Billy Dee Williams) was in Shreck's place. He would've become Two-Face towards the end, when Catwoman eletrocutes him.

 

[maveholic31]

Dumb moments:

1. "Eat floor..."
2. The whole Gordon dead/Dent's Batman/Joker's In Prison/Mobile Phone In Stomach plot
3. Shreck's power sucking plant
4. The thing with the buses in TDK opening
5. The thing with the bullet fingerprint in TDK
6. Batman getting shot all the time in B89
7. Bruce Wayne mistaking himself for someone else (BR)
8. Joker being everywhere all the time (TDK)
9. Burning down Wayne Manor completely (BB)
10. Bale's voice


And now... start bashing me!

no need to.. you already did the job yourself by lacking the power to think

 

[The Joker]

^^^ Uncalled for, man!

 

[BatmanForNever]

In one of the early drafts for Batman Returns Max Shreck was to be revealed as the Penguin's "normal" brother. In another draft, Harvey Dent (Billy Dee Williams) was in Shreck's place. He would've become Two-Face towards the end, when Catwoman eletrocutes him.

That makes total sense, why did they not do that!? That would have set the third film up perfectly.

 

[El Payaso]

It's starnge to think the something similar happened to Harvey Dent in BB.

 

[returntovoid]

It's starnge to think the something similar happened to Harvey Dent in BB.

They replaced him with the Rachel Dawes character.

 

[spittingvenom]

in BR when the Penguin had flippers instead of hands.
did not like that.

 

[TMC1982]

That makes total sense, why did they not do that!? That would have set the third film up perfectly.

This in all likelyhood has to do with Tim Burton not being comfortable with making a more direct sequel than the one that eventually turned out. This is unfortunately, because I'm very curious how Two-Face would've been depicted in the Burtonverse version of Batman. The problem with the Schumacherverse version that Tommy Lee Jones portrayed, was that he was really one note (always cackling, and manic acting, in hopes of trying to keep up with Jim Carrey's Riddler).

 

[weezerspider]

T
When the Joker announces that he is planning to blow up a hospital, nobody thinks of looking in the one with Dent.

Gordon says that their prime goal is Gotham General, which is where Dent is. There are police there. The ones who encounter Joker are killed.

 

[Ibn]

When the Joker steals 68 million dollars from the mob, yet to Maroni HE'S not the problem.

 

[The Joker]

When the Joker steals 68 million dollars from the mob, yet to Maroni HE'S not the problem.

According to Lau, that is a relatively small amount to them. You're also not taking into consideration that the mob have no idea how dangerous Joker is yet.

To them he was simply "A two bit whack job who wears a cheap purple suit and make up". They probably thought they could easily take care of him and get their money back.

 

[Ibn]

According to Lau, that is a relatively small amount to them. You're also not taking into consideration that the mob have no idea how dangerous Joker is yet.

To them he was simply "A two bit whack job who wears a cheap purple suit and make up". They probably thought they could easily take care of him and get their money back.

A two bit whack job who stole 68 MILLION DOLLARS tho! By HIMSELF none the less. I know if I'm supposed to be some big badass mob boss, nobody, much less some little goth prick in his mommy's makeup, is going to steal a single cent from me and get away with it. And if they thought they could easily take care of him, then why worry about batman? I mean he's just a two bit whack job wearing a bedspread and a mask. Yet he is a problem even tho he does the same thing as the Joker, hault their cashflow. Maybe it's just me but, if I have good intel on what the cops are up to as far as tracking my money, but then lose everything I fought for to ONE guy, in makeup, I'm sorry but he's priority number one. I'll be damned if word get's out that a single man stole multiple million's of dollars from my super badass mob conglomerate, and I'm sitting on my ass worrying about some **** that I already have on lock (cops tracking the money).

 

[The Joker]

A two bit whack job who stole 68 MILLION DOLLARS tho! By HIMSELF none the less.

Did you miss the first five minutes of the movie? He didn't steal the money by himself. He had several helpers, and secretly instructed all of 'em to kill eachother once they'd served their purpose.

I know if I'm supposed to be some big badass mob boss, nobody, much less some little goth prick in his mommy's makeup, is going to steal a single cent from me and get away with it.

Which is why Gambol put out a contract on Joker. Five hundred grand for him dead, a million for him alive.

And if they thought they could easily take care of him, then why worry about batman? I mean he's just a two bit whack job wearing a bedspread and a mask.

Were you paying attention at all to this movie? Batman is one man, whom has taken out Carmine Falcone, Ra's Al Ghul, Scarecrow, and has all the criminals running scared since Batman Begins.

His reputation for what he can do is well established in Gotham by TDK. They're talking about him on the News and everything.

The Joker is a nobody at this point, who got himself a little gang and robbed a bank. It's hardly the crime of the century. Banks get robbed all the time.

Maybe it's just me but, if I have good intel on what the cops are up to as far as tracking my money, but then lose everything I fought for to ONE guy, in makeup, I'm sorry but he's priority number one.

Once again, were you even paying attention to this movie at all?

The 68 million was NOTHING to these guys.

Lau: "One of our deposits was stolen. A relatively small amount, 68 million"

That money was a drop in the ocean to these guys. Where on earth did you get the impression that they lost everything to Joker in that bank job?

 

[joker1]

Not only that, but the joker planned for him to put the bullet together and find the fingerprint and end up at the address where the police were, and look in through the telescope at the moment the timer on it went off.

i apologise, but this could be something else: i was always under the impression (and still believe) that the joker assumed that there would be police snipers at the parade - due to his threat - and he knew that because he was dressed as a shotgun guard, that he and his gang would have to fire thier guns at a time in the parade. if you notice, the timer on the windowsill next to the telescope releases the blind at the same time that the joker and his men fire thier guns, as do the police snipers. the police snipers fired because they were instructed to, and the fact that a window blind was suddenly being released and the snipers could see something that could resemble a sniper rifle (the telescope) was enough visual imput for them to fire. this distraction then allowed the joker and his men to fire at the mayor. i believe that it is merely coincidence that batman was able to find the fingerprint on the bullet, and trace it back to the apartment. it just makes some sense that the joker would use one of his gang's apartments (as alfred says just as wayne leaves the bat-bunker) that was nearest to the parade.

HOWEVER, i do find it a little hard to believe that joker got so close to the mayor for so long (the mayors speech doesn't seem short) without being spotted by his scars by any of the key characters on the podium with the mayor. granted, gordon was pre-ocupied with the joker's threat (and let's face it, he would have been the first to spot the joker), but the fact that the others couldn't see the joker still escapes me.

 

[Texas Zombie]

Your not taking me to the coolah.

 

[Grommers]

i apologise, but this could be something else: i was always under the impression (and still believe) that the joker assumed that there would be police snipers at the parade - due to his threat - and he knew that because he was dressed as a shotgun guard, that he and his gang would have to fire thier guns at a time in the parade. if you notice, the timer on the windowsill next to the telescope releases the blind at the same time that the joker and his men fire thier guns, as do the police snipers. the police snipers fired because they were instructed to, and the fact that a window blind was suddenly being released and the snipers could see something that could resemble a sniper rifle (the telescope) was enough visual imput for them to fire. this distraction then allowed the joker and his men to fire at the mayor. i believe that it is merely coincidence that batman was able to find the fingerprint on the bullet, and trace it back to the apartment. it just makes some sense that the joker would use one of his gang's apartments (as alfred says just as wayne leaves the bat-bunker) that was nearest to the parade.

HOWEVER, i do find it a little hard to believe that joker got so close to the mayor for so long (the mayors speech doesn't seem short) without being spotted by his scars by any of the key characters on the podium with the mayor. granted, gordon was pre-ocupied with the joker's threat (and let's face it, he would have been the first to spot the joker), but the fact that the others couldn't see the joker still escapes me.

I mean, if I was a cop waiting for someone to try and kill the Mayor, I wouldn't be looking in the crowd, or the people, I'd be looking at all those windows...as he could be in any single one, I think that'd be the more common approach, the only thing I was surprised was that the joker didn't tie someone up to look like they were shooting, imagine if the cops had fired at that window and killed another cop? It'd be so ingenious, especially because they would think they got someone, but I think if that was included the later scene where the doctors were bad and clowns were hostages would of been ruined.


I think that "relatively" small amount was sarcasm, but it's hard to tell I imagine, it's a good 20-30%, with batman tracking it all down very quickly too. It's hard to say with that scene though, and really only Nolan knows how he wrote it, but either way, Joker & Batman would be the #1 targets, and well they know they cant take out Batman, so they might as well try to kill 2 birds with 1 stone right?

 

[Ibn]

Did you miss the first five minutes of the movie? He didn't steal the money by himself. He had several helpers, and secretly instructed all of 'em to kill eachother once they'd served their purpose.



Which is why Gambol put out a contract on Joker. Five hundred grand for him dead, a million for him alive.



Were you paying attention at all to this movie? Batman is one man, whom has taken out Carmine Falcone, Ra's Al Ghul, Scarecrow, and has all the criminals running scared since Batman Begins.

His reputation for what he can do is well established in Gotham by TDK. They're talking about him on the News and everything.

The Joker is a nobody at this point, who got himself a little gang and robbed a bank. It's hardly the crime of the century. Banks get robbed all the time.



Once again, were you even paying attention to this movie at all?

The 68 million was NOTHING to these guys.

Lau: "One of our deposits was stolen. A relatively small amount, 68 million"

That money was a drop in the ocean to these guys. Where on earth did you get the impression that they lost everything to Joker in that bank job?

1st. Stop with the patronization ********.

2nd. My friend, there is NO ONE on this earth who 68 million dollars is a relatively small amount to. Lau was being sarcastic. Why would they raise such a stink and call him crazy when he asked for half?

3rd. You are correct. He had helpers in the bank, who he later KILLED. Which means he, this one man, ended up with 68 million MOB dollars. Yet he's not the problem? **** outta here. This isn't Bill Gates we're talking about. This is the MOB. Stealing anything at all from the mob is intolerable. Yet this mother****er, by himself, is now in possesion of 68 Million of it? And they're not worried about this one man who, like you said, orchestrated this whole thing? That's stupid as ****.

4th. Obviously Batman wasn't a problem either. The big problem was "the money being tracked by the cops". Oooooh!! But then again, since they're not worried about a literal clown spitting in their faces, disgracing them, basically saying that he doesnt give a **** about their so called authority, (the ENTIRE mob). Why the hell worry about Batman? I seriously doubt that in a year, Batman has halted 68 million dollars worth of cashflow. Yet the Joker still doesn't matter? Sure. Real small fry.

 

[The Joker]

1st. Stop with the patronization ********.

What patronization? Your criticisms make no sense, when the obvious facts were right there to see in the movie.

Btw, watch the language, or we'll have to get a moderator in here to put you into line.

2nd. My friend, there is NO ONE on this earth who 68 million dollars is a relatively small amount to.

There's no one on earth who puts on a cape and cowl, and belts around in a big black tank fighting crime either. But in TDK there was.

And in TDK, 68 million was a small amount of money from the mob's collective account.

Lau was being sarcastic.

Stop kidding yourself. There wasn't a note of sarcasm in voice.

Why would they raise such a stink and call him crazy when he asked for half?

You call them all laughing at him and calling him crazy raising a stink?

3rd. You are correct. He had helpers in the bank, who he later KILLED. Which means he, this one man, ended up with 68 million MOB dollars. Yet he's not the problem? **** outta here.

That's right. One man, who ended up with the money after he killed his helpers. Why would he be a problem to the mob?

This isn't Bill Gates we're talking about. This is the MOB. Stealing anything at all from the mob is intolerable. Yet this mother****er, by himself, is now in possesion of 68 Million of it? And they're not worried about this one man who, like you said, orchestrated this whole thing? That's stupid as ****.

Lets list a few facts before the veins on your forehead pop:

1. The Joker, with a gang, robbed a bank, and then killed his men.
2. He took a small amount of money by the Mob's estimates
3. The main problem for the Mob is ALL of their money being tracked by the Police

And you're expecting them to drop everything and deal with some little whacko nobody who dresses like clown who stole a small amount of cash from them?

It's the exact same as Batman's philosophy in the bank, when Gordon asked him about the Joker. Batman said "One man or the entire mob? He can wait". Same as the mob's philosophy was lose all their money to the entire Gotham Police force, or go chase down this one whacko who robbed one of their small deposits?

The answer is obvious.

4th. Obviously Batman wasn't a problem either. The big problem was "the money being tracked by the cops". Oooooh!!

Correct!

They have no way of fighting Batman. He's a total mystery to them. Most of the criminals in Gotham are scared stiff of him. But they stand to lose all of their cash to the Police. That problem they can do something about. Losing ALL of their money and being put out of business, or trying to track down some "two bit whack job who wears a cheap purple suit and make up".

Yeah, it's real hard to see what their real problem is there.

But then again, since they're not worried about a literal clown spitting in their faces, disgracing them, basically saying that he doesnt give a **** about their so called authority, (the ENTIRE mob).

Once again, the Joker was nobody who stole a SMALL amount of money, with a bunch of helpers.

You are talking like he pulled off the crime of the century. He robbed a friggin' bank!!! And the mob would not consider him a problem, because with their connections they could easily have tracked him down, got their money back, and killed him.

Why do you think the chechan said "Who's stupid enough to steal from us?". Because they can easily get Joker if they want. It's why Gambol put out the contract on Joker.

 

[BatmanForNever]

Dumbest Batman Movie Moments?...


All of Batman & Robin.

 

[weezerspider]

1st. Stop with the patronization ********.

2nd. My friend, there is NO ONE on this earth who 68 million dollars is a relatively small amount to. Lau was being sarcastic. Why would they raise such a stink and call him crazy when he asked for half?

3rd. You are correct. He had helpers in the bank, who he later KILLED. Which means he, this one man, ended up with 68 million MOB dollars. Yet he's not the problem? **** outta here. This isn't Bill Gates we're talking about. This is the MOB. Stealing anything at all from the mob is intolerable. Yet this mother****er, by himself, is now in possesion of 68 Million of it? And they're not worried about this one man who, like you said, orchestrated this whole thing? That's stupid as ****.

4th. Obviously Batman wasn't a problem either. The big problem was "the money being tracked by the cops". Oooooh!! But then again, since they're not worried about a literal clown spitting in their faces, disgracing them, basically saying that he doesnt give a **** about their so called authority, (the ENTIRE mob). Why the hell worry about Batman? I seriously doubt that in a year, Batman has halted 68 million dollars worth of cashflow. Yet the Joker still doesn't matter? Sure. Real small fry.

You know nothing about organized crime... one guy who has NO reputation isn't going to scare the whole mob. The biggest problem, regardless of what your doing, is the Police. They can take everything you've fought for your whole life in an instant. That's much more worrisome than some random clown. It's only after The Joker builds a reputation as a mad terrorist, that the mob begin to cringe at his name.

As for Batman, he's one guy who is an Urban Legend of sorts, might not even be human. He can get on the Mob's radar as one guy. The Joker can't until he gets a reputation thats as fearful as Batman's, when in fact, he makes one more fearing.

It is all about the reputation. A big one, and you'll be feared, a small one, and you'll be tossed to the side.

 

[BatmanForNever]

If your the Joker...you can scare anything.

 

[El Payaso]

If your the Joker...you can scare anything.

In real life any Joker can be shot easily.

 

[BatmanForNever]

In real life any Joker can be shot easily.

How dare you say such filth!!! He would murder legions!!!

 

[Sawyer]

The moment Clooney put on the Batsuit, yet failed to realize that he should... perhaps... GET INTO CHARACTER!