Henry Cavill IS Superman: - - - - Part 13

[flickchick85]

I would hope that Superman avoids photoshoots and such in this reimagining of the mythos. However, in several previous incarnations, the character actually has partaken in these type of activities, so it's difficult to say what might happen now. Another thing is that we live in an increasingly more invasive society: mobile phone photography, for example, is the norm these days. Phones are being hacked into and calls are being monitored. Red-light cameras are all over the place. There's really no such thing as privacy any more.

You say that someone would be hard-pressed to identify Superman unless he/she saw him in person? I disagree. Superman's not Batman. He doesn't operate in the shadows. He doesn't wear a mask, which is one of the reasons comic purists cry foul if an actor portraying him isn't made up to match the character's notable phenotypic traits to a tee. And why is Superman against wearing a mask in the first place? Because he truly wants people to see his face. And in terms of identifying someone, that's really all you need. When a child is missing or a wanted criminal is on the loose, what is it that we see on milk cartons and wanted ads? The head of the person in question. Do we already know these people in advance? No. Can we still identify them based on a single head shot? Sure. What have old school anthropologists like Carleton S. Coon commonly focused on in distinguishing various racial types from each other? Cranial morphology. That's where it all starts.

Moreover, we live in a society where people are obsessed with ANYONE in the public eye. Consider the rise of popularity in reality-based shows. Can you imagine what people would do if they became aware of the existence of a guy like Superman?? They would be all over him. There would be a conscious effort to scrutinize every little thing he does. The world would likely be changed forever.

Now, lets say someone recognizes him in the supermarket and takes his picture; then tries to sell that picture to some popular trash mag. People are going to start talking. And Superman's not going to want that kind of scrutiny in his life. His secret identity would be immediately compromised. That's why I think it would be a nice thing to see some real thought put into the Clark Kent civilian disguise -- something subtle, but effective. In addition, it would make sense for Kent to be a lot more low-key than he's portrayed in previous incarnations.

The only parallel this would have is the faces on the milk carton, because other celebrities are so instantly recognizable due to us seeing their faces on a 30-ft tall movie screen on a regular basis, or in close-up in our homes every week on TV, and in regular HD photoshoots for magazines, etc. The details of their faces are completely ingrained in our brains from that kind of exposure. Superman will be seen in photos, sure, but nothing even approaching that level of familiarity, imo.

As for the milk cartons, the difference is that if you see someone who looks like one of those kids, you report it, police/FBI/etc. are going to launch an investigation to determine if that's them. People aren't "hunting" for Superman in hiding - he's always around as Superman, and it seems like, by the end of this movie, officials will consider him a "friendly" - so at most, you can report it to the tabloids and hope they care. But honestly, there would be SO MANY of those stories in the trash mags of guys who look like Superman in a grocery store, the laundromat, etc, that Clark would just be one of a thousand reports just like that, and it wouldn't gain any traction with any legitimate outlets.

Now, in real-life, yes, he probably would get outed at some point. But in a movie that features an alien flying around in a uniform that looks conveniently like superhero garb and an invading alien race that just happen to be native English-speakers, not to mention a host of other outlandish elements, his ability to keep the secret is FAR from the most implausible aspect the storytellers are asking us to suspend our disbelief for, imo.

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

The only parallel this would have is the faces on the milk carton, because other celebrities are so instantly recognizable due to us seeing their faces on a 30-ft tall movie screen on a regular basis, or in close-up in our homes every week on TV, and in regular HD photoshoots for magazines, etc. The details of their faces are completely ingrained in our brains from that kind of exposure. Superman will be seen in photos, sure, but nothing even approaching that level of familiarity, imo.

What I was trying to say is that people are obsessed with just about anyone that's famous these days, including regular/average types, such as those depicted on reality TV shows. Imagine how folks would react if they became aware of a celebrity who was actually worthy of all that senseless attention. Come on. A super-powered alien constantly flying around the place with good looks to boot? Footage of that kind of phenomenon is going to get on TV.. somehow.. some way! Supes won't even have to willingly participate. Paparazzi types and news reporters won't take no for an answer. The higher the caliber of celebrity, the more interest that's generated: that's the rule! Like I said before, Supes isn't like Batman anyway. He probably wouldn't have a problem allowing his picture to get taken once in a while. And that's all you need. The notion that he wouldn't consistently partake in photoshoots and such would only make people hunger for more.

As for the milk cartons, the difference is that if you see someone who looks like one of those kids, you report it, police/FBI/etc. are going to launch an investigation to determine if that's them. People aren't "hunting" for Superman in hiding - he's always around as Superman, and it seems like, by the end of this movie, officials will consider him a "friendly" - so at most, you can report it to the tabloids and hope they care. But honestly, there would be SO MANY of those stories in the trash mags of guys who look like Superman in a grocery store, the laundromat, etc, that Clark would just be one of a thousand reports just like that, and it wouldn't gain any traction with any legitimate outlets.

Yeah, this is true. I think that kind of thing already happens in real life though. Law enforcement authorities constantly have to deal with false alarms and attention-seeking nutjobs, but it doesn't stop them from ultimately bringing fugitives to justice. Sure, it's distracting and it slows them down to some extent, but not for long.

But in a movie that features an alien flying around in a uniform that looks conveniently like superhero garb and an invading alien race that just happen to be native English-speakers, not to mention a host of other outlandish elements, his ability to keep the secret is FAR from the most implausible aspect the storytellers are asking us to suspend our disbelief for, imo.

Yeah, I get that and I mentioned suspension of belief in a previous response to Anita. To be quite frank, though, it's the producers and writers themselves who keep pushing for "realism" in a world that isn't all that realistic to begin with. If "hyper-realism" is their goal, however, I expect them to deliver it to the best of their ability. Aside from that, this is just kind of an interesting discussion for me. I mean.. wouldn't it be all the more interesting if they tried something unique and creative with the CK disguise this time around? Why not?

And BTW, considering they have their own Kryptonian language, I don't think Superman's genetic brethren are supposed to be native English speakers. When you watch, I think the idea is to imagine they're conversing in their own tongue. I could be wrong about that though.

 

[Anita18]

Well, Olivia Harrison provided the same protection for the late great George Harrison. When George Harrison was attacked by a deranged fan with a knife in their home, Olivia beat the guy off with a lamp and a fireplace poker. If I recall correctly, Eric Clapton called Harrison up in the hospital while he was recuperating and asked him something to the effect of, "Aren't you glad you married a Mexican woman?" t:

I could only wish I could be that badass for my own husband.

Yeah, I get that and I mentioned suspension of belief in a previous response to Anita. To be quite frank, though, it's the producers and writers themselves who keep pushing for "realism" in a world that isn't all that realistic to begin with. If "hyper-realism" is their goal, however, I expect them to deliver it to the best of their ability. Aside from that, this is just kind of an interesting discussion for me. I mean.. wouldn't it be all the more interesting if they tried something unique and creative with the CK disguise this time around? Why not?

Movies like this can never be "real." Even Nolan's Batman performed feats of physical impossibility. (Or immense, immense improbability, at best. ) It was never going to be "real," the same way that an Oscar bait drama is supposed to be real.

What's "real" in this sense, is how the supporting/minor characters react to having a Batman or Superman in their midst. They're going to react how we're going to react. I find that very compelling, not the middling physical details of actual reality.

 

[Anita18]

Wow! Well, you enjoy your alone time with Henry! Lol I would come back with something but this forum is rated "PG"... All i can say to you is....Enjoy the vibrations!!! Lmao

It's not going to be that bad. I'm a geek girl - same as geek guys, once we find a partner, we're too lazy to spend any energy on anyone else cause we have so many other things to do! My husband has nothing to fear. I just likey the eye candy.

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

I could only wish I could be that badass for my own husband.


Movies like this can never be "real." Even Nolan's Batman performed feats of physical impossibility. (Or immense, immense improbability, at best. ) It was never going to be "real," the same way that an Oscar bait drama is supposed to be real.

Yeah, that's one of the reasons I had a problem with TDKR (even though I appreciated much of it). On the one hand, Nolan and Goyer were going for this dark, deeply serious, and thought-provoking tone (which they certainly achieved on some level); and then you had these really implausible and downright silly moments that just felt kind of jarring and out of place in that realistic environment. It was almost like they couldn't decide what type of movie they wanted to make.

A lot of ideas sound great in theory, but when it comes time for execution, you realize they don't always work out so well.

 

[Bran-El]

A lot of ideas sound great in theory, but when it comes time for execution, you realize they don't always work out so well.

Sounds just like me putting up Christmas lights.

 

[Andreth]

Henry Cavill arriving at JFK to promote his new film ‘Man of Steel’ as he is greeted by a mob of fans in New York, New York on June 9, 2013

 

[Scarlettess]

looks like the hat disguise didn't work. Cavill is so awesome though.

 

[hopefuldreamer]

I actually thought George Kirk Chris Hemsworth was hotter than Thor Chris Hemsworth.

What can I say, I like 'em kind of boring. I wanted to bone Captain America (of all people!) in Avengers.

Same.

That's why Cylcops has always been my favourite of the X-Men too

But it's not REALLY 'boring'. It's just what other people call boring, because they aren't all dark and 'badass'.

 

[Kane52630]

looks like the hat disguise didn't work. Cavill is so awesome though.

He should've put on some glasses, it works every time.

 

[Autonet]

What can I say, I like 'em kind of boring. I wanted to bone Captain America (of all people!) in Avengers.

When you can jump around and kick like this it's all good t:

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

He should've put on some glasses, it works every time.

He really should start walking around with glasses on.

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

I just want to do unspeakable things to and with Henry. Even if I was straight, he'd make me go gay. No one should be that handsome.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I just want to do unspeakable things to and with Henry. Even if I was straight, he'd make me go gay. No one should be that handsome.

 

[Andreth]

Lmao!!

 

[Anita18]

I just want to do unspeakable things to and with Henry. Even if I was straight, he'd make me go gay. No one should be that handsome.

Matt Bomer, although he's a bit more "Disney Prince" than Henry. It should have been Henry in Magic Mike instead.

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

Matt Bomer, although he's a bit more "Disney Prince" than Henry. It should have been Henry in Magic Mike instead.

Matt Bomer is "okay". He is a pretty boy. But he isn't nearly as masculine as Cavill in my opinion.

Besides, he doesn't have Dat Ass like Henry...an ass, mind you, that deserves both an Academy Award and a Yellow Pages Directory Listing of its own.

 

[Anita18]

Matt Bomer is "okay". He is a pretty boy. But he isn't nearly as masculine as Cavill in my opinion.

Besides, he doesn't have Dat Ass like Henry...an ass, mind you, that deserves both an Academy Award and a Yellow Pages Directory Listing of its own.

I've...never noticed Henry's ass. I'm too busy admiring his face!

But I AM a butt girl....

 

[Anita18]

Hurm....not bad.

I'm a figure skating fan, so I've seen bigger/firmer. But it ain't bad at all.

Not enough guys have nice butts! All the emphasis on pecs and things I don't care about.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Matt Bomer is "okay". He is a pretty boy. But he isn't nearly as masculine as Cavill in my opinion.

Besides, he doesn't have Dat Ass like Henry...an ass, mind you, that deserves both an Academy Award and a Yellow Pages Directory Listing of its own.

Bomer is pretty damn hot to me but I do perfer Cavill all around.

 

[Anita18]

I wouldn't kick either out of bed. Let's just be grateful we live in a world where we get to have both.

 

[Iron_Madrigal]

I liked Bale in Begins:

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I wouldn't kick either out of bed. Let's just be grateful we live in a world where we get to have both.

I am very grateful.

 

[MrMaooz]

As a straight male looking in this thread right now.

 

[Nicko-Ray]

As a straight male looking in this thread right now.

Lol same here.