Interstellar - Part 9

[DA_Champion]

As bad as the academy award awards, they are better than the grammy's.

Last I watched those "Need You Now" by Lady Antebellum won best single of the year.

 

[batman1]

The movie is already at 325 mill. it is on pace to past DKR! So sad a Billion dollar movie to be unfairly trashed. BTW you can't get to that number and suck as a movie.

 

[ThePhantasm]

This review does a pretty good job, I think, of summing up the ways in which the film is thematically incoherent (warning: major spoilers).

 

[Gee]

Supposedly the name of the track in The Docking Scene score is apparently called Imperfect Lock & it is on the iTunes Deluxe Edition of the score. Time will tell if this is accurate

Negative. I have listened to the six tracks from the deluxe and that's not it. Imperfect Lock is the cue playing when [BLACKOUT]Mann tries to dock[/BLACKOUT].

 

[Donut]

Negative. I have listened to the six tracks from the deluxe and that's not it. Imperfect Lock is the cue playing when [BLACKOUT]Mann tries to dock[/BLACKOUT].

I guess we could get that cue when the Recording Sessions leak out eventually

 

[batman1]

the docking scene was awesome!

 

[Quasimod0]

Just saw this again today. And I was able to just sit back and really enjoy it. I've gotta say, this movie went way up in my list of favorite movies of the year. I freaking love this movie. lol. My rankings are now...

Cap 2
Dawn of the Planet of the Apes
Interstellar
Guardians of the Galaxy

 

[BatLobster]

This review does a pretty good job, I think, of summing up the ways in which the film is thematically incoherent (warning: major spoilers).

Couldn't disagree more with his analysis. Just because the film presents one character who acts out of selfishness and weakness doesn't mean the film is trying to present a dim view of humanity. By that logic, any movie with an antagonist who acts that way could be said to be purporting the same message.

On the contrary, this is a deeply humanistic and optimistic film. Acknowledging the existence of the bad side of humanity does not negate the good side. He's right that Nolan's earlier movies have had more of a cynical outlook, but I think this trend has been very clearly reversing itself with his last few movies.

 

[Deserana]

In a lot of ways, Nolan is the new M. Night Shyamalan

Pretty much tarnished the whole article.

 

[ThePhantasm]

Couldn't disagree more with his analysis. Just because the film presents one character who acts out of selfishness and weakness doesn't mean the film is trying to present a dim view of humanity.

The article doesn't talk about just one character who acts this way. It talks about several...

Pretty much tarnished the whole article.

Eh, that comment doesn't really have much purchase on the overall argument.

 

[Gold Samurai]

Negative. I have listened to the six tracks from the deluxe and that's not it. Imperfect Lock is the cue playing when [BLACKOUT]Mann tries to dock[/BLACKOUT].

Some parts of the music reminds me of "Tron: Legacy"

It's got a 80's vibe to it

I will definitely purchase whatever soundtrack that musical cue comes out on


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[Tacit Ronin]

The deluxe edition is a disappointment. Most of the tracks are variations on what is in the standard version. 'Imperfect Lock' is not the docking music. It only contains parts of it as with 'Day One Dark' and 'coward', but not the whole piece. The docking music is as of yet unreleased. I would recommend saving your money. The standard version is fine enough as it is.

 

[Deserana]

Watched about 2 minutes of screen junkies Interstellar discussion. It baffles me how some people think that love is the sole reason of the entire ending.

 

[Phallic]

Finally got to see the movie over the weekend and not quite sure what I'd rate it. It was epic and visually awesome, but like Nolan's other movies, I didn't really connect with it, not sure why. There were a couple things that I found really annoying like the loud music (why does Nolan have to keep doing that?!) and the same damn fixated angle on the spaceship in space. I also had to suspend way too much disbelief that [blackout]Cooper wouldn't have been disintegrated in the black hole, and that he conveniently popped back out near Saturn[/blackout]. And for all of the movie's ambition I found that it played it way too safe in terms of the ending with a horrible cliché ([blackout]leading character survives the impossible and has to get back out to reconnect with a supporting character[/blackout]).

And Topher Grace took me waaaaay out of the movie when he appeared, and in every scene that he was in. I couldn't buy his character at all. How the heck did he get a part in this movie when he's not known at all for serious dramatic roles?

A couple of your complaints I can kind of explain. They are actually scientifically plausible.

Spoiler

The black hole was a rotating supermassive Kerr black hole that is rapidly spinning - this was described in the movie as a "gentle singularity." One unique characteristic of this black hole is that its singularity is in the form of a 2 dimensional ring rather than a point - this alters its gravitational properties substantially. Theoretically, one could pass through such a black hole and survive. What happens past the singularity is currently unknown, some have hypothesized that it can act as a portal or wormhole. Here is an article that details their difference as well as explains them mathematically - note they are much different from normally depicted black holes.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...lar/comment-page-1/+&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=no

There are a lot of reasons why he may have been spit out near Saturn, such as the wormhole being connected to the black hole in some way. Some theories, as I mentioned above, state that the center of a Kerr black hole can act as a wormhole of some sort. Given its stated that the wormhole and presumably the tesseract were man made, it's not inconceivable that future beings would build it in such a way that it would send Cooper back to the Solar System.

 

[DA_Champion]

Watched about 2 minutes of screen junkies Interstellar discussion. It baffles me how some people think that love is the sole reason of the entire ending.

They heard Anne Hathaway say that love conquers all so they assume that this is the message.

 

[A Necessary Evil]

Saw this in IMAX tonight...and it blew me away. I don't understand how this got a 73% approval rating, i think it's honestly Nolan's best film, and once again, demolishes the "cold" characters and "dark, super serious" side people seem to think Nolan can only conquer. Totally gonna check this out again soon.

 

[A Necessary Evil]

Oh, and the special edition of the soundtrack will have 35 minutes of music you cannot get anywhere else. Wait for that one, i'm getting it.

 

[Quasimod0]

Saw this in IMAX tonight...and it blew me away. I don't understand how this got a 73% approval rating, i think it's honestly Nolan's best film, and once again, demolishes the "cold" characters and "dark, super serious" side people seem to think Nolan can only conquer. Totally gonna check this out again soon.

Definitely. The characters were warm and believable. Cooper especially.
And there was some great humor, even in intense scenes. Very natural humor too, not forced crap humor.

 

[AnneFan]

They heard Anne Hathaway say that love conquers all so they assume that this is the message.

Because when Anne speaks, people listen. t:

Saw this in IMAX tonight...and it blew me away. I don't understand how this got a 73% approval rating, i think it's honestly Nolan's best film, and once again, demolishes the "cold" characters and "dark, super serious" side people seem to think Nolan can only conquer. Totally gonna check this out again soon.

Glad you liked the movie, Necessary Evil. I agree. It's wonderful. Smart, tense, full of great performances and with a compelling score. This and Inception would have to be my two favourite non Batman films from Nolan. That's what I like about Nolan. He throws everything including the kitchen sink into his movies. Themes galore which really make you think.

 

[Gee]

Oh, and the special edition of the soundtrack will have 35 minutes of music you cannot get anywhere else. Wait for that one, i'm getting it.

Yeah, the "ILLUMINATED STAR PROJECTION EDITION":

http://www.watertower-music.com/releases_spotlight.php?search=WTM39546_interstellar
http://www.myplaydirect.com/interstellar-soundtrack (US only?!)

Two CDs; 28 tracks. Disc 1 is the regular OST, so Disc 2 must contain 12 tracks which probably contain the 6 tracks from the deluxe digital edition. That leaves another 6 tracks which, hopefully, the docking sequence track is part of (as well as Day One Dark I guess).

 

[Tacit Ronin]

When is it coming out?

 

[A Necessary Evil]

Definitely. The characters were warm and believable. Cooper especially.
And there was some great humor, even in intense scenes. Very natural humor too, not forced crap humor.

Absolutely. The film really tugged at the heart strings too. MM was a freakin wonder in this film.

Because when Anne speaks, people listen. t:

Glad you liked the movie, Necessary Evil. I agree. It's wonderful. Smart, tense, full of great performances and with a compelling score. This and Inception would have to be my two favourite non Batman films from Nolan. That's what I like about Nolan. He throws everything including the kitchen sink into his movies. Themes galore which really make you think.

Absolutely adored it, and Anne was great too! I thought she

Spoiler

was gonna be a villain for the Mid-Second act, but that twist was great

. I do agree, I think this and Inception are amongst his best...although he hasn't made a bad movie yet IMO. Oh, and this is Zimmer's best score in years. I'm utterly obsessed with "Coward." I liked Topher too, wish he had more of a part in the film lol

Yeah, the "ILLUMINATED STAR PROJECTION EDITION":

http://www.watertower-music.com/releases_spotlight.php?search=WTM39546_interstellar
http://www.myplaydirect.com/interstellar-soundtrack (US only?!)

Two CDs; 28 tracks. Disc 1 is the regular OST, so Disc 2 must contain 12 tracks which probably contain the 6 tracks from the deluxe digital edition. That leaves another 6 tracks which, hopefully, the docking sequence track is part of (as well as Day One Dark I guess).

Yep! Got it on Pre-Order.t:

When is it coming out?

No official date, rumor is Mid-December.

 

[A Necessary Evil]

I got the link for my Illuminated Projection Edition to download it. I'll let you guys know in about an hour.

 

[DACrowe]

Saw Interstellar for the second time (in IMAX) tonight. And honestly, my complaints from the first viewing feel very trivial at this point. I still think certain red shirt characters (ahem) are there to not make it out, and I think it cuts back to Earth too much. But this time, it was even more of an experience. I knew what my issues were and just watched it as a whole without overly critiquing its flaws which are still there, but they seem so much more trivial in service to this staggering epic.

People evoke Kubrick a lot while talking about this movie, and justly so. It owes a lot to 2001, but it reminds me a lot of those grand epics from the 1950s and 1960s: Lawrence of Arabia, Ben-Hur, Doctor Zhivago. It has a grandness to its scope not seen much in modern filmmaking despite the ballooning budget. And the ending, from Brand's speech, to Cooper's final revelations flowed so much more for me, and I appreciated the sorrowful pain of Chastain's adult Murph so much more.

This is not the best movie of the year, but it is possibly the most unforgettable one. And after hearing how Neil Degrasse Tyson talks about it, it inspires me even more the ambition and intelligence of it, which is again informed by what really Chastain (and even Mackenzie Foy) are doing. Really all of the performances are top notch, though only Cooper, Brand, and the Murphs really get to shine. But there is a humanist salvation to this that I find very refreshing, especially with all the hard-hitting science fiction.

I get why people have problems with it, but simultaneously it feels like they really are minuscule to what is accomplished here.

 

[DACrowe]

This review does a pretty good job, I think, of summing up the ways in which the film is thematically incoherent (warning: major spoilers).

I say bah to all that. This is the kind of pseudo-intellectual criticism that espouses because a filmmaker is plot heavy that he lacks an eye for composition, which is a recently recurring trend of critique on Nolan I reject. Beyond that (and the absurd comparison to Shamylan), the writer is mostly using Nolan's admittedly darker earlier work as a way of calling Interstellar cynical. First of all, Memento and Insomnia are purely noir, so of course they're cynical. But that sort of odd logic would dictate that Lawrence Kasadan should not write Star Wars or Indiana Jones movies, because he made Body Heat.

But beyond that, getting into Interstellar itself, the idea that Dr. Mann, despite his on-the-nose surname, is a condemnation of humanity is missing the forest for a solitary tree. The movie is a love letter to the pioneering, explorer spirit, and all but cheerleads NASA and humanist endeavors. If it was not so romantic of the species, then why would Christopher Nolan remove all traces of extraterrestrial life from the screenplay (which was crawling in the pages of the 2008 Jonathan Nolan script, complete with the "Bulk Beings" being actual aliens)? He did it because he didn't want a "higher power" than humanity in his story.

He is doing a pioneer/frontier narrative in space, and such stories are always full of the "turncoat," or the explorer who gets marooned and/or goes "native." That Dr. Mann was weak means humanity is weak ignores everything to the contrary, such as Murph solving the equation or the entire last 30 minutes of the movie where the love of father and daughter saves the world with a sense of Spielbergian sentimentality.

Nolan's pessimism has cleared up in his last two movies (maybe because his kids are getting older?). The movie clearly mocks the idea that humans are naturally always good, such as when Cooper mocks Brand when she says this mission represents the best of humanity. But at the same time, that is its true intention given that man saves himself at the end of the story.