It's also worth noting (and this was my logic when I reopened this thread) that folks are free to go into the box office thread, defend their opinions, etc. Fans of the movie complained about the mean old haters coming into the positivity thread and disagreeing with them. Thus, this thread was made to only allow nice things to be said. It's not meant to be a safe haven where you can complain about the opinions of other without those people being able to defend themselves. In other words, if you don't like what people are saying in the box office thread, go there and debate them. People who disagree with what is being said in this thread do not have that option. Therefore a higher degree of civility is required. In essence, it's a trade off for having a thread where no one can contradict you.
Why do I sense a tone of condescension in that statement?
The original purpose of the positivity thread was for fans to come here and discuss the movie without the vitriol from detractors interrupting a legit conversation about the movie with 5 negative posts between replies that does not contribute to anything aside from dumping on the movie. The thread was suppose to allow constructive criticism, and not ONLY to say nice things about the film. Fans can point out things that they liked, or didn't like, in a civilized manner. I remember in the original thread some people who didn't like the film even came in to discuss the parts they liked. That is totally fine. The thread started getting a little sidetracked when the hate against the film was so strong during release on the other threads, that fans started coming in here just to state their appreciation of this thread, and we can all see how that can turn into badmouthing the detractors.
I totally understand the reason the old thread was closed, and the new one is made to continue the conversation without badmouthing detractors. But don't make it sound like we're all brainwashed for having a positive opinion on the film, or that we believe the film has no flaws. I made the original thread and even I agree there are plenty flaws in the film, and stated some of them in here, even though it did not detract from my overall enjoyment.
I know some might feel the mods might have a double standard, since we're not allowed to comment on detractors in this thread, which I agree with the mods on. There are the other threads which we can defend the movie and debate with detractors like the BO, All things, or What Went Wrong thread. But realistically, there are probably more detractors of the film than fans at this board, so I can see why fans might feel overwhelmed by the arguments from the very loud naysayers. And I don't blame them. While we can't comment on the detractors, I see a few comments in the BO thread calling the posters in this thread delusional for having an opinion (that this film is good). While we can't and shouldn't badmouth them in here, I do hope Mods would feel the same in other threads. If they want to debate, take it up with the posters who post in those threads. I do know a few posters who still post in BO thread to give their take on the numbers and debate. That's totally fine. But don't smack talk and call posters in here delusional for liking a film they want to dump at while we're in here. I think that's fair.
Perhaps the usefulness of this thread has decreased, since I see other threads like the one made by LamboMan which discusses a major theme, and that was what I intended this thread to be originally, to discuss flaws, themes, hidden meanings, and various things without having the same few detractor posters just posting to dump on the movie. I guess this thread could still be a place to talk about general themes, constructive criticism (without the hate please), and things we like and want more of, etc. I would suggest posters keep the comments of detractors in other threads to a minimum. You can still show appreciation for this thread without talking too much about all the detractors. The key thing is to keep it clean in there.
