The Dark Knight Rises OFFICIAL: Batman in New York - Part 3

[Micromind]

This is going to be The movie of year 2012, I can feel it.

 

[kvz5]

So Queen Marion is still in NY as of yesterday:

http://t.co/iNVQuyc9

Me thinks she'll be filming something this week. Please let it be with Bale! I'm craving for some Bruce/Tatelia pics!

And oh... Prince Marcel is adorable.

 

[Hunter Rider]

So Queen Marion is still in NY as of yesterday:

http://t.co/iNVQuyc9

Me thinks she'll be filming something this week. Please let it be with Bale! I'm craving for some Bruce/Tatelia pics!

And oh... Prince Marcel is adorable.

Didn't someone say yesterday that they would be filming a Bruce, Lucious and Miranda scene this week?

 

[Bim]

And I don't think he was even thinking of "topping the Joker" in terms of characters/villains when he was drafting the story.

Totally agree with you, again .

Pure speculation of course, but i dont think Nolan went about it trying to "top" the joker. He chose a character that fits with the story he wants to tell and will use him to the best of his abilities.

Yurka: that video is amazing! wow.

 

[dark_b]

now that we know something about the story and that Gotham is on lockdown you have to admit that Bane is almost the perfect villain for this story. plus its about defeating Batman physical and having Batman rise.

 

[The_Raganork]

All these villains are chosen to show something about Bruce.

It was a question of who could shed the light on Bruce the most effective way in terms of the story he had already been telling.

The only people who make his character choices a competition are the people who know the least about the process.

 

[Hunter Rider]

All these villains are chosen to show something about Bruce.

It was a question of who could shed the light on Bruce the most effective way in terms of the story he had already been telling.

The only people who make his character choices a competition are the people who know the least about the process.

To an extent that was what I was going for, it's about offerring something new to challenge Bruce and thus bring out more of him, so the villain almost needed to be a 180 from The Joker..

 

[The_Raganork]

To an extent that was what I was going for, it's about offerring something new to challenge Bruce and thus bring out more of him, so the villain almost needed to be a 180 from The Joker..

I don't know about a 180, I see it this way:

Ra's al Ghul showed Bruce a Mountain: Courage, Fear, Trust,Criminality, Morality and Acceptance. For Ra's if the mountain is too challenging or someone gets in the way of reaching the plateau you either, bring the mountain down to a size easier to get to, or kill the person in the way. Bruce's method puts him on top of the mountain without the treachery.

The Joker wanted to show Batman that the mountain he prides himself on is a farce and at best a slippery slope that'll fall out from under you at the first sign of danger or harm to oneself and to illustrate this Joker set off an avalanche on Batman's Mountain and everything came crashing down. Joker wanted to prove to Batman that at the end of the day everyone would catch themselves instead of trying to save the mountain. At the end of the day Batman becomes somewhat of an Atlas figure instead of saving himself he catches the mountain and holds it on his back at sacrifice to himself.

Bane (I think) is the villain who'll add the final straw to the Camel's (Bat's) back. Batman has saved the mountain but, Bane comes in and adds a new weight. Destruction, desperateness, anger and fear. For Joker it was somewhat of an ideology for Bane it's a practice. Joker insisted if you push people far enough they'll fend for themselves at any cost, Bane seems to insist if you push people far enough they'll lose all morality and become the enemy, willingly. They'll turn on whomever is doing better than them, jealousy morphs into errant righteous indignation. If you take the system which tells everyone that they have chance and break it so that it tells a large amount of people they'll never have a chance, they'll band together with whomever and however to be angry to show total aggression to a stance that is against them and furthermore you can save people from death and depths of darkness but if they're living on the fringe they won't be appreciative. That a hero is only as heroic as the people he or she serves.

If Gotham falls Batman will ultimately fall because he is Gotham and Gotham is he. So to break the back all he needs to do is break Gotham.

Not have people hate Batman...no they hate Batman for a moral reason because they think he killed Harvey Dent and 5 people, though wrong in this information they're anger towards it is of positive moral fiber. It has to be bigger than that...

If you take Gotham and make them hate just to hate. Hate of jealousy and fear then Batman a logical extension of Good in the city is diminish over time until they both turn on each other.

 

[dark_b]

the only question right now is how Selina fits into this story. i hope she has a good purpose.

 

[kvz5]

Didn't someone say yesterday that they would be filming a Bruce, Lucious and Miranda scene this week?

I believe the word was it'll be Bruce/Fox and Batman/Catwoman scenes.

 

[kvz5]

Totally agree with you, again .

We really do share a brain!

the only question right now is how Selina fits into this story. i hope she has a good purpose.

I'm sure she will.

 

[Yurka]

All these villains are chosen to show something about Bruce.

It was a question of who could shed the light on Bruce the most effective way in terms of the story he had already been telling.

The only people who make his character choices a competition are the people who know the least about the process.

So you don't think deciding on a compelling, marketable villain was ever a part of their script writing process?

 

[DoomsdayApex]

Bane's using a heavyweight boxing style of fighting when he's warming up in that vid. I trained as a boxer for 12 of my 20 years and I swear to the big man, there is no way you are getting up if someone connects with one of those hooks.
But it also leads me to, for the first time, believe that Bane is going to look a lot bigger on screen because that fighting style is very rarely used against anyone even remotely near the same size. However the fact he is mixing this style with spin kicks is scary! I have never seen that before! And the fact he can do it convincingly is brilliant!
Bane will be a force to be reckoned with in a 1 on 1 confrontation definitely.

I don't know about that, but perhaps Bane's style is closer to a hybrid of a brawling/kickboxing background. Bane's power punches appeared identical to Quinton 'Rampage' Jackson's (pre-Juanito Ibarra).

 

[Miranda Fox]

I like Batman movies. I hope Batman wins.

Thanks for ruining the movie, dude!

Spoiler

 

[Nevincer]

Welcome back, Miranda t:

 

[infamous]

i cant see the video for some reason, can someone plese provide a link?

Yeah, her name isn't even on the call sheet for some reason whereas everyone else's dbl is

 

[Miranda Fox]

Welcome back, Miranda t:

Cheers, Darkhunt! Nice to see you again.

(Batman072 got banned?)

 

[Tacit Ronin]

This is going to be The movie of year 2012, I can feel it.

Lincoln

Django Unchained.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

the only question right now is how Selina fits into this story. i hope she has a good purpose.

If there's no stripper/prostitute crap, I'll be happier.

She looks like a romantic interest to me. She filmed at the Wollaton Hall and the Osterley House Wayne manor locations. Including a rainy scene with Bruce Wayne where she holds his hand and leads him away from the door. Deadline and THR reported a love interest and a villain for the two main females in the film.

She's been seen wearing very posh clothing.

She's been seen pursuing the tumbler(s) and HEMTT. There is video of her coming out of Gotham City Hall in the batpod.

She's been seen beating up a thug, protecting a kid, and taking a bite out of an apple.

She doesn't hide her identity as Catwoman. Catwoman has her arms around Batman before he jets off to parts unknown. Batman should know the woman who was holding his hand is Catwoman unless he's even dumber than he's been made out to be the past two films.

Goku alleges being informed by a source she is in jail...perhaps as her introduction. He also posted that the "upscalers," the rich are called to account in a kangaroo court run by the crazies. We've recently seen posters of anti-rich propaganda for the film.

Maybe some day when I have a lot more time I'll wiki all this but I'm not counting on it.

 

[Hunter Rider]

I don't know about a 180, I see it this way:

Ra's al Ghul showed Bruce a Mountain: Courage, Fear, Trust,Criminality, Morality and Acceptance. For Ra's if the mountain is too challenging or someone gets in the way of reaching the plateau you either, bring the mountain down to a size easier to get to, or kill the person in the way. Bruce's method puts him on top of the mountain without the treachery.

The Joker wanted to show Batman that the mountain he prides himself on is a farce and at best a slippery slope that'll fall out from under you at the first sign of danger or harm to oneself and to illustrate this Joker set off an avalanche on Batman's Mountain and everything came crashing down. Joker wanted to prove to Batman that at the end of the day everyone would catch themselves instead of trying to save the mountain. At the end of the day Batman becomes somewhat of an Atlas figure instead of saving himself he catches the mountain and holds it on his back at sacrifice to himself.

Bane (I think) is the villain who'll add the final straw to the Camel's (Bat's) back. Batman has saved the mountain but, Bane comes in and adds a new weight. Destruction, desperateness, anger and fear. For Joker it was somewhat of an ideology for Bane it's a practice. Joker insisted if you push people far enough they'll fend for themselves at any cost, Bane seems to insist if you push people far enough they'll lose all morality and become the enemy, willingly. They'll turn on whomever is doing better than them, jealousy morphs into errant righteous indignation. If you take the system which tells everyone that they have chance and break it so that it tells a large amount of people they'll never have a chance, they'll band together with whomever and however to be angry to show total aggression to a stance that is against them and furthermore you can save people from death and depths of darkness but if they're living on the fringe they won't be appreciative. That a hero is only as heroic as the people he or she serves.

If Gotham falls Batman will ultimately fall because he is Gotham and Gotham is he. So to break the back all he needs to do is break Gotham.

Not have people hate Batman...no they hate Batman for a moral reason because they think he killed Harvey Dent and 5 people, though wrong in this information they're anger towards it is of positive moral fiber. It has to be bigger than that...

If you take Gotham and make them hate just to hate. Hate of jealousy and fear then Batman a logical extension of Good in the city is diminish over time until they both turn on each other.

Don't take my short reply as dismissive Rag, I just don't see a counterpoint here exactly, instead I just wanted to say I enjoyed reading that and it's certainly a very interesting analogy.

I believe the word was it'll be Bruce/Fox and Batman/Catwoman scenes.

My mistake.

 

[Showtime]

Perhaps, but Batman's gripe with Bane and his 'fanboys' was a bit pretentious.

Possibly, but nobody reports pretentious.

 

[Gold Samurai]

OMG is Damian going to be in the movie!

 

[Micromind]

^^ Awww.

 

[kvz5]

Such a cutie!

 

[The Batman]

I'm personally wondering where anybody said that Bane shouldnt be in the movie, because some of the last few posts seem to imply that someone did.