Person Of Interest - Part 2

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man, what's happened with the numbers this year?!?...

is the competition outnumbering it?... is it's lead-in the problem?... are viewers turned off by the direction the show is going this season?... or are they just plain getting tired of the show?... this show has such a great dynamic with the characters and great writing... I just don't get what's happening this year...
 
man, what's happened with the numbers this year?!?...

is the competition outnumbering it?... is it's lead-in the problem?... are viewers turned off by the direction the show is going this season?... or are they just plain getting tired of the show?... this show has such a great dynamic with the characters and great writing... I just don't get what's happening this year...
I'm thinking it's a little of everything right now, with the biggest problem being CBS' older-skewing viewers probably not liking the complex storylines and later timeline. Most of the complaining on FB and other sites is about too complicated storylines and the characters being inaudible when they whisper, which are decidedly older people problems. The area that POI does well in is the Live+3 and Live+7 ratings, where it's among the highest gainers in the 18-49 demo and adds well over 3 (L+3) and 5 (L+7) million viewers for each of those ratings periods.
 
^Speaking of those complaints, I read some comments on something the Facebook page posted the other day. It was painful.
 
^Speaking of those complaints, I read some comments on something the Facebook page posted the other day. It was painful.
Those comments really are. Plus, the comments over on Zap2it's TV by the Numbers. There are people openly rooting for POI to fail because they got rid of Taraji and think Nolan and Plageman did it because they don't like women of color in starring roles. I think some people feel like they've been sold a bill of goods by having the show not like the standard CBS procedural and getting rid of a beloved character.
 
I saw somebody on there saying how it's not about the characters anymore since Samaritan's arrival. This show has the worst "fans" ever. Ugh this show is too good for CBS viewers.
 
Those comments really are. Plus, the comments over on Zap2it's TV by the Numbers. There are people openly rooting for POI to fail because they got rid of Taraji and think Nolan and Plageman did it because they don't like women of color in starring roles. I think some people feel like they've been sold a bill of goods by having the show not like the standard CBS procedural and getting rid of a beloved character.

I saw somebody on there saying how it's not about the characters anymore since Samaritan's arrival. This show has the worst "fans" ever. Ugh this show is too good for CBS viewers.

these are some of the stupidest ***ing fans with some of the stupidest ****ing reasons to have changed their once positive view of the show...

dumbasses...
 
these are some of the stupidest ***ing fans with some of the stupidest ****ing reasons to have changed their once positive view of the show...

dumbasses...
And if you notice, almost all the complaining is from older people and women. The problem with having a show that's a hybrid between a serialized and procedural show is that it'll never be more of one thing than the other to keep everyone happy. Seems the young people want more serialized than procedural and are complaining about that while the older people don't like the complex, serialized aspects of it. The women seem to be complaining because they miss Henson and don't like the newer additions of Acker and Shahi (something to do with them being too emotionally stunted or stunted.)
 
And if you notice, almost all the complaining is from older people and women. The problem with having a show that's a hybrid between a serialized and procedural show is that it'll never be more of one thing than the other to keep everyone happy. Seems the young people want more serialized than procedural and are complaining about that while the older people don't like the complex, serialized aspects of it. The women seem to be complaining because they miss Henson and don't like the newer additions of Acker and Shahi (something to do with them being too emotionally stunted or stunted.)

does that 'older' audience include me?... because I'm well over 50 and one of those that loves the show.... and I can hear what everyone is saying quite nicely...
 
does that 'older' audience include me?... because I'm well over 50 and one of those that loves the show.... and I can hear what everyone is saying quite nicely...
I was talking about the older ones that complain a lot about those types of things. I've watched the show with my parents who are both in their 60s and they don't ever complain about the whispering either. These complainers must have some old TVs or messed up hearing.
 
I am really enjoying season 4 so far. Reese moonlighting as a detective has been a fun subplot. He seemed almost human this week. It was fun to see him mentor a teenaged kid and crack a smile for once.
 
Love this show. Spotted Dominic quite early. Seems like he can be interesting.

No Amy this week though.
 
I was talking about the older ones that complain a lot about those types of things. I've watched the show with my parents who are both in their 60s and they don't ever complain about the whispering either. These complainers must have some old TVs or messed up hearing.

no sort of tension was directed at you in my post, just wanted to make that clear... it was asked in harmless fun, so no offense was taken in any way, guy... :up:
 
no sort of tension was directed at you in my post, just wanted to make that clear... it was asked in harmless fun, so no offense was taken in any way, guy... :up:
I didn't know how I answered was supposed to be taken as tense or angry. When I typed it out, I thought I was just kind of clarifying which group of older people I was referring to. I wasn't really considering you as part of my singled out older audience since you've been really complimentary of the series on here. Sorry for the confusion.
 
I didn't know how I answered was supposed to be taken as tense or angry. When I typed it out, I thought I was just kind of clarifying which group of older people I was referring to. I wasn't really considering you as part of my singled out older audience since you've been really complimentary of the series on here. Sorry for the confusion.

no real confusion and no worries, guy... :yay:
 
Well...I dunno, if they were trying to cater to the audience that complains about things being too complicated, Tuesday's episode must have sent them up a wall.

I do remember hearing one of the writers for the show at NYCC last year say that they wanted to try and create a more serialized dynamic, and not as transparent a 'case of the week'. That in and of itself sounds more or less impossible given the nature of the series and how it's set up, though. But...if they can pull that off in some spots, like in the end run of a season like they did last season, where we had Vigilance make a grab in the penultimate episode and it led directly into the season finale, I think it can work.

I also think we have to try and remember that, if you take a step back, Team Machine is supposed to be overwhelmed. They're outnumbered, have less resources, have less tools at their disposal, and are being restrained because they're being hunted by Samaritan.

I for one quite enjoyed how they had an episode where we see where their private phone network came from so they stay off Samaritan's radar on phones. And then another episode where we see where they'll be getting funding for sometime, since Finch is no longer a Bajillionaire.

The first three seasons coming to Netflix will be great. I think they'll gain more viewership that way. I know a number of people who wouldn't give Arrow, for example, a chance until the first season came to Netflix and loved it. They missed out on season 2, since it was airing when they were streaming season 1, and are binge watching season 2 now so that they can catch up and watch season 3 that's only about two episodes in.

I think it'll be a good way to sell people who might be unconvinced because of the network it's on.
 
Love this show. Spotted Dominic quite early. Seems like he can be interesting.

No Amy this week though.

I have to admit, they got me. I was fully expecting Dominic to be Elias pulling strings from a distance.
 
Here's a pretty detailed live blog of PoI's NYCC panel. It does provide some interesting tidbits of information about what's to come this season.

http://www.givememyremote.com/remote/2014/10/12/person-of-interest-at-new-york-comic-con-live-blog/

I was there this past Sunday. It was a pretty good panel. Michael Emerson seems to always be in Finch-mode, because even when he's answering questions he seems like he's in character.

And Jim Caviezel has to be one of the nicest guys on this planet.
 
Well...I dunno, if they were trying to cater to the audience that complains about things being too complicated, Tuesday's episode must have sent them up a wall.

I do remember hearing one of the writers for the show at NYCC last year say that they wanted to try and create a more serialized dynamic, and not as transparent a 'case of the week'. That in and of itself sounds more or less impossible given the nature of the series and how it's set up, though. But...if they can pull that off in some spots, like in the end run of a season like they did last season, where we had Vigilance make a grab in the penultimate episode and it led directly into the season finale, I think it can work.

I also think we have to try and remember that, if you take a step back, Team Machine is supposed to be overwhelmed. They're outnumbered, have less resources, have less tools at their disposal, and are being restrained because they're being hunted by Samaritan.

I for one quite enjoyed how they had an episode where we see where their private phone network came from so they stay off Samaritan's radar on phones. And then another episode where we see where they'll be getting funding for sometime, since Finch is no longer a Bajillionaire.

The first three seasons coming to Netflix will be great. I think they'll gain more viewership that way. I know a number of people who wouldn't give Arrow, for example, a chance until the first season came to Netflix and loved it. They missed out on season 2, since it was airing when they were streaming season 1, and are binge watching season 2 now so that they can catch up and watch season 3 that's only about two episodes in.

I think it'll be a good way to sell people who might be unconvinced because of the network it's on.
Besides just Netflix, it looks like POI will be on CBS' new VOD service. That provides another option for those who want to catch up, possibly even before it appears on Netflix.
 
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from an upcoming episode (4.06 ''Pretenders'')
 
I don't know, I can understand some of the complaints.
But overall I think the show has reached a point where the storylines are getting repetitive. Always some version of mafias, contrabands, people double crossing someone. Or they have easy way outs, like shooting people on the legs... and they just stay there. They don't try to reach the gun right next to them, they just lay there because the plot needs them to.
The show is stronger when it focuses on the team problems and the dynamic between them. Is hard to feel that when most of the time the characters are talking to each other from different places.
I still support the show. Samaritan vs Machine is a great season arc. They should explore more of that.
 
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