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The All Things Flash Thread. - Part 1

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There are few names more synonymous with comics than Grant Morrison, and fans will see his influence in Justice League in a surprising way.

It turns out Flash actor Ezra Miller is a huge fan of Morrison's work, which includes an incredibly popular run on Justice League. Miller had the chance to go over the character with Morrison, and he couldn't be happier about it.

Grant Morrison is like the high priest of comic book and graphic novel writers," Miller told DC All Access. "Grant Morrison is my absolute favorite comic book author and the person who really shows me a way into this mythology and then a way through it into just the beautiful scope of everything. I mean, he goes quite deep. I've really been so inspired by his work."

Fans will recognize some familiar themes, including his constant fight to right past wrongs.

"This is certainly a recurring theme for the Flash through the character's history," Miller said. "The hero complex becomes even more complicated when space-time is malleable to this person's consciousness. So, it is the idea that you could have done something better, especially when you've gone through trauma, and even involved the most minor thing. You stub your toe and wish you could go to the moment before it happened, to when everything was okay and you did not stub your toe. Then of course you come into time travel and it gets tricky because of the butterfly effect. You had to stub your toe for that weather system to happen."

It's still pretty surreal for Miller and the entire cast that they are indeed bringing these heroes to life. Miller describes one of those surreal moments involving another comics legend, artist Alex Ross.

"I swear, I felt like I'd been blacking out and entering comic frames," Miller said. "It's very hard to describe the feeling when you look out at someone you know and see that Alex Ross painting in front of you, and it's these real people. There's this underlying knowledge of everything they've done and gone through to get to that place."

http://comicbook.com/dc/2017/11/08/justice-league-ezra-miller-inspired-grant-morrison/
 
Mini Flash update from the Variety JL fallout article

While Ben Affleck is expected to appear as Batman in a standalone Flash movie, it is highly unlikely he will don the cape and cowl in Matt Reeves’ planned standalone Batman movie. The director is said to want to cast the role with fresh talent, according to sources.

Warner Bros. believes that “Justice League” succeeded in one importantly respect: it effectively introduced Flash (a quippy speedster played by Ezra Miller) and Aquaman (the king of Atlantis, portrayed by Jason Momoa). A solo “Aquaman” is due out in 2018 and Warners is still developing a standalone Flash adventur
 
Mini Flash update from the Variety JL fallout article

Warner Bros. believes that “Justice League” succeeded in one importantly respect: it effectively introduced Flash (a quippy speedster played by Ezra Miller) and Aquaman (the king of Atlantis, portrayed by Jason Momoa). A solo “Aquaman” is due out in 2018 and Warners is still developing a standalone Flash adventure

Agree on this
 
I think what would be interesting is if Barry was able to witness multiverses and let's just say WB had an ace up their sleeve to completely recast a whole other universe to begin say 2019 and this new universe went under the banner DC.2 (as an example) and we got to look in on this universe (say Barry hidden in the background, peering in on events) and see this amazing portrayal of Shazam, GL, Batman, Superman, flash, WW that totally kicks donkey which wets our appetite so we know that this new universe will slowly be introduced as the DCUE comes to an end with WW2, Flash point and AM.
 
Mini Flash update from the Variety JL fallout article

While Ben Affleck is expected to appear as Batman in a standalone Flash movie, it is highly unlikely he will don the cape and cowl in Matt Reeves’ planned standalone Batman movie. The director is said to want to cast the role with fresh talent, according to sources.

Warner Bros. believes that “Justice League” succeeded in one importantly respect: it effectively introduced Flash (a quippy speedster played by Ezra Miller) and Aquaman (the king of Atlantis, portrayed by Jason Momoa). A solo “Aquaman” is due out in 2018 and Warners is still developing a standalone Flash adventur

poor Cyborg don't get no LOVE?
 
Mini Flash update from the Variety JL fallout article

While Ben Affleck is expected to appear as Batman in a standalone Flash movie, it is highly unlikely he will don the cape and cowl in Matt Reeves’ planned standalone Batman movie. The director is said to want to cast the role with fresh talent, according to sources.

Warner Bros. believes that “Justice League” succeeded in one importantly respect: it effectively introduced Flash (a quippy speedster played by Ezra Miller) and Aquaman (the king of Atlantis, portrayed by Jason Momoa). A solo “Aquaman” is due out in 2018 and Warners is still developing a standalone Flash adventur

Yea they succeeded in boring every one to death in order to introduce every one. My god half the film is Batman and Wonder-Woman and a recruiting tour. I was bored out my skull through the first half of the film. Even when they did finally all come together it was still meh.

I loved the film don't get me wrong. It was a marked improvement over Batman v Superman. However they should brought them together a lot faster then they did. The first part of that film just dragged.

Also I hate Ezra Miller as the Flash. He was so horrible and more importantly down right annoying. It's main reason I won't go see Flashpoint. Ezra was a horrible pick for the Flash.
 
Posted in the Henry Cavill thread, figured it's worth a repost here...

Today's news kind of makes me think Flashpoint is off. Hearing that an offer was made to Affleck, someone who has only done dramatic work as a director, at some point, only for it to end up in the hands of a duo primarily responsible for lighthearted/comedic work, really makes me think that the offer to Affleck was a last ditch effort to: A) keep him on-board, and B) keep that iteration of the project alive.

Someone who has directed the stuff that Affleck has doesn't seem a completely unreasonable choice for a story where Barry goes back in time to stop his mother's death, f***s up the universe, and thereby puts two of his new friends at war with one another, causes another to be held captive all his life, and causes the dude who recruited him in the first place to be long dead, with his father taking up his mantle instead.

But comedy writer-directors? Can't picture it. I think it'll now, ideally, take the shape of WW's movie, as well as what we're hopefully given with Aquaman and Shazam. A solo adventure that's legitimately a SOLO adventure. After JL, it doesn't make sense to bark up that Flashpoint tree right now.
 
Posted in the Henry Cavill thread, figured it's worth a repost here...

Today's news kind of makes me think Flashpoint is off. Hearing that an offer was made to Affleck, someone who has only done dramatic work as a director, at some point, only for it to end up in the hands of a duo primarily responsible for lighthearted/comedic work, really makes me think that the offer to Affleck was a last ditch effort to: A) keep him on-board, and B) keep that iteration of the project alive.

Someone who has directed the stuff that Affleck has doesn't seem a completely unreasonable choice for a story where Barry goes back in time to stop his mother's death, f***s up the universe, and thereby puts two of his new friends at war with one another, causes another to be held captive all his life, and causes the dude who recruited him in the first place to be long dead, with his father taking up his mantle instead.

But comedy writer-directors? Can't picture it. I think it'll now, ideally, take the shape of WW's movie, as well as what we're hopefully given with Aquaman and Shazam. A solo adventure that's legitimately a SOLO adventure. After JL, it doesn't make sense to bark up that Flashpoint tree right now.
I really hope this is what’s going on:hmr:
 
I agree.

Johns was talking up Remeckis before too, now they got comedy people instead, sounds more like a straight forward adventure than a big time travel team up story. Changing the title should be the easy part.

Though Russo brothers made a great thriller with Winter Soldier...so we will see
 
So much has been said about keeping an eye on budgets post-JL. Flashpoint would require a HUGE budget, unless you take a lot of liberties with that comic, and considering the show already played that card, I'd rather not.
 
I enjoyed Ezra in the role and I can’t figure why DC not just Warner’s isn’t grabbing the gold mine that is The Flash and his family. It’s essentially their Spider-Man franchise. He has a wonderful rogues gallery, supporting cast, and story. I could see a Flash animated series being a wonderful thing that I’d done right could outshine any Spider-Man, Batman, or young justice cartoon. The Flash should be more of a priority for them
 
^^^^Because he has an successful TV show already

Yeah I’m aware of that one.... just think there is so much potential for more. Also the show is pretty good, not always on point but when it is it’s some of the best comic book tv around
 
I personally hope the Flash movie is closer in tone to that Lego Flash movie coming up.

I find the tone of the TV show pretty cringy most of the time, although it is delivering the goods in terms of fan-service.
 
Production Weekly has some updates on Flashpoint (paywall subscription). It seems like Daley & Goldstein are in final talks to direct the film, as the film is tentatively slated to begin production this summer in London. Miller, Fisher, Crudup, and Clemmons are listed as part of the cast.

If everything continues smoothly, this might be an early 2020 release.
 
I wonder how much this Flashpoint film is going to incorporate elements of the MCU's Civil War in the sense that the film will be about Barry Allen (as it was above Steve Rogers) but it'll involve (or could involve) the likes of Diana, Arthur, Mera, Thomas Wayne, Clark and even Victor.

Could Flashpoint serve as a (form of) Justice League 1.5?
 
Production Weekly has some updates on Flashpoint (paywall subscription). It seems like Daley & Goldstein are in final talks to direct the film, as the film is tentatively slated to begin production this summer in London. Miller, Fisher, Crudup, and Clemmons are listed as part of the cast.

If everything continues smoothly, this might be an early 2020 release.

Thanks. Is there a screencap?
 
I wonder how much this Flashpoint film is going to incorporate elements of the MCU's Civil War in the sense that the film will be about Barry Allen (as it was above Steve Rogers) but it'll involve (or could involve) the likes of Diana, Arthur, Mera, Thomas Wayne, Clark and even Victor.

Could Flashpoint serve as a (form of) Justice League 1.5?

They'd be smart not to
 
Thanks. Is there a screencap?

I don't screencap, but I did copy and paste, removing the addresses and phone numbers. No working title for this film yet.

DC ENTERTAINMENT / GOLDDAY
[...]
STATUS:
Summer 2018 LOCATION: London
PRODUCER: Geoff Johns WRITER: Joby Harold DIRECTOR: John Francis Daley & Jonathan Goldstein
CAST: Ezra Miller - Ray Fisher - Billy Crudup - Kiersey Clemons
[...]
The storyline sees Barry Allen/The Flash travel back in time to avert the murder of his mother. However, when he returns to the present, his mother is still alive but the world is a nightmare, the Justice League doesn’t exist, and Barry must do everything he can to set things right… or as close to right as possible.
 
Daley and Goldstein did a Reddit AMA. They didn't answer anything about the Flash but it sounds like they know their stuff when it comes to the craft and how they did some inventive camera work for Game Night.

Jonathan: Most studio comedies are shot in a very flat, overly lit style that robs the film of any aesthetic subtlety. We really wanted to shoot Game Night so it would look like a thriller. Working with our cinematographer, Barry Peterson, we avoided using a Steadicam for most of the film, instead opting for dolly shots on tracks or static shots where the action played out in the frame with minimal or no movement from the camera. We used a version of tilt-shift photography to create the establishing shots that made our characters' world look almost like a game board. We also included quick-cut transitions between certain scenes (e.g. celery being cut, popcorn popping, change falling in a tray). This was a way to keep the audience on their toes with sudden, jarring images. The overall intention was to make this visually as unlike a typical comedy as possible.

[–]GOLD-DAY 6 points 47 minutes ago John: We used a special camera rig called an R-1 arm for a lot of the driving sequences. Because of its lightweight composition, it can extend out far more than typical steel rigs. This allowed us to put the camera back 15 feet behind the vehicle in order to look like a 3rd person driving video game-- like GTA. We employed that same technique in other shots as well. For instance, in the back room of the dive bar where Brooks tied up and the bad guys are trying to break through the door, we locked the camera on the door's lock (almost as though there was a mini R-1 arm attached to it) as it rotated. We wanted to add to the tension in any way we could and getting creative with our inserts was one way to do it. We did that same type of locked image in the overhead drone shot of the airplane as it was turning onto the runway. Additionally, nearly every time Jesse Plemons was on screen, we were dollying into his face. We thought it was a funny way to play up the suspense, despite the fact that what Jesse is saying is totally mundane and boring.


Sounds like we can look forward to some cool shots in this movie.
 
Man....
I’m starting to get excited about the idea of them directing The Flash.

Getting excited about flash directors dangerous thing to do :funny:
 
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