The All Things Flash Thread. - Part 1

It only begs the question of who DC will cast as The Rogues

 

Omega Underground suggests that Flashpoint may film in Vancouver. Nothing concrete, even though PW says otherwise.

 

After seeing how T'Challa suit came out of his necklace in BLACK Panther, you think they could make the Flash suit coming out the ring work in live action?

 

I just want to see Flash on his own in Central City in a solo outing because I want to see how he fares in his own blockbuster with the spotlight strictly on him

 

https://twitter.com/Borys_Kit/status/981236347452014592?s=19

 

I hope that’s true and that their not adapting Flashpoint as the first Flash movie. But if they are it is what it is. I just hope the movie turns out good.

 

I don't believe for a second that they'll do Flashpoint, with or without that particular title. It would be the dumbest thing they could do right now. It would be our new BVS in terms of doing too much too fast ("Well, you see, it's not just a Man of Steel sequel, it's also Batman vs. Superman, a Wonder Woman showcase, an opportunity to cameo the JL cast and the Death of Superman all rolled into one!!!").

As far as I'm concerned, JL performed how it did because they didn't earn this ****. And they sure as hell haven't earned anything this story requires.

I say keep it simple, and to me, I think the hiring of these directors points to keeping it simple.

 

I agree with all of this

 

Very happy to see it moving away from Flashpoint, even if it is in name only.
I'm also hoping Reverse Flash/Zoom isn't the villain, the tv show has done evil speedsters to death.

 

I think I've said in this topic already, but as much as I wouldn't want the villain to be Eobard, I do think he needs to be in the film; somewhat of a cameo or post-credit. A simple scene with a blurry figure, wearing a yellow suit with glowing red eyes stepping out of the shadows and observing Barry from afar toward the end of the film - just to establish he's around.

I would prefer the Rogues (in their element) as the villains.

 

Yeah, at the very least I think the film, if it ends up just being a standalone Flash movie, should at least hint at Reverse Flash, or just a line or two alluding to him, if just to potentially give further explanation or hint to the general audience as to why Henry Allen is in prison. If at least to build upon what we got in Justice League.

 

This would be so awesome especially as a post credit scene and for the mid credits you could have something else

 

Eobard would be equivalent to Thanos as far as Barry is compared to the Avengers; Thanos having been seen (several times) in post-credit scenes. If done right, Eobard could have the above scene in the first Flash film, then something more direct in the second film (whilst remaining a background character) for him to then be the main villain in the third film.

Not sure who you'd go with for the second film though; Grodd maybe? Depending on just how the first film were to play out, you could even, in the sequel, have the Rogues assist Barry in defeating Grodd; it's not like they're mortal enemies afterall.

 

Gorilla Grodd I could see in a sequel

 

I actually wouldn't mind if Reverse Flash was the sole villain of the first film then do a proper Flashpoint storyline as the second film.

I think with a character like the Flash, who isn't as prominent in the GA's consciousness the way Batman, Superman, and Wonder Woman are, its more of a benefit to lead the first film with their strongest most compelling arch nemesis, as opposed to holding him off in favor or other rogues.

Nolan could pull off saving Joker and Two Face for TDK trilogy because there had been several Batman films, a tv series, and an Animated series prior to BB which expended the bigger named villains who were well known to the GA.

Spiderman Homecoming could also hold off Green Goblin and Doc Ock given all of the exposure to his rogues over a couple of franchises. Superman could hold off on Lex Luthor and go with Zod in MOS.

While Flash does has a tv series on CW, its not like the character is so well known that the GA knows about Reverse Flash and the Thawn mythology. In other words, having him wouldn't be redundant to the vast majority of the movie going audience.

Since his story ties so much into Barry's origins , it would make the most sense to lead with your strongest hand when introducing the Flash myths in a solo film to a movie going audience.

At the same time, I can understand them wanting to separate themselves from the tv series and go with Dr Light and the rogues, as has been rumored.

 

I'd be curious to know though just how much persuading WB needed from Nolan to let the film run with Ra's and Scarecrow as the villains, rather than say Joker. This was after all the big-screen rescue for Batman after the Batman & Robin fiasco.

Yes, I wouldn't blame them for that.

 

Some good points have been made, but I really do think a character like the Reverse Flash would benefit from a bit of build-up. The Rogues as a group, meanwhile, 1.) aren't any slouches as Flash antagonists, 2.) wouldn't require quite so much heavy lifting, and 3.) would, ideally, keep things more interesting than just being a by-the-numbers CG-fest that does the same kind of third act that 70% of the CBMs we've seen in the last 5-10 years have done.

 

I would hold off on RF too. Make the Rogues a reoccuring thing by introducing them in the first film with maybe a hint of the RF in some way. But make the Rogue's the threat for film one.

 

Yes I would hold off on Reverse Flash at least for now. I would save him for the sequel as a villain but have him show up in a post credit scene to build up the DCEU build up towards the eventual Flash sequel.

 

I think something like the Rogues gives a lot more potential for visually interesting uses of superspeed. It also lends itself well to building a world, letting the Flash build up a reputation in Central City and having Barry learn how to use his powers in more creative way.

Of course if the DCEU is still building up to Legion of Doom, they might not want to use the villains teaming up idea again.

 

I think if it were me I would hold off on world ending threats and make this about a man who has taken it upon himself to protect a city with super powers. The Rogues fit a lot more when the stakes aren't thr fate of the planet in some way.

 

Then who would you suggest as the villain

 

I think Mirror Master would be great, there are so many interesting things you can do with him.

 

Or you could have had Captain Cold as villain for Barry's origin film well his solo filn

 

Yep, I'd go with that.