The Amazing Spider-Man The Amazing Spider-Man (First Reactions: Critics, Fans) (Spoiler Alert) - Part 8

[TheWallCrawler]

In Chaseter's defense, wouldn't you think he was being honest and unbiased if he said TASM is good? Wouldn't you like him a bit more if his review was positive rather than negative? I think it can go both ways.

Well, in that case yes. Before you judge me, I have a good reason:
I like when people have positive reactions to this movie and stuff from the movie (trailer, featurettes and so on), but I don't like biased positive reactions either

I have started to dislike SpiderMarvelite just for that reason. I even said to him "you kinda blindly like anything about this movie" and of course, I got the basic fanboy-response...

The thing is, if Chaseter tells he actually liked it, you kinda automatically know it's an unbiased positive opinion since Chaseter disliked it before, he never was a fanboy and never defended it

 

[grieven]

Not sure these have been posted yet. First one is negative.

http://screencrush.com/the-amazing-spider-man-review/

http://www.themoviepictureshow.com/2012/06/review-the-amazing-spider-man/

http://www.todayonline.com/CultureAndLifestyle/Movies/EDC120627-0000008/Movie-Review--The-Amazing-Spider-Man-%28PG,-136min%29-l-3,5/5

I've said before as many others have, the RT meter will almost certainly come back down to earth. I will be thrilled with 80%+, but am just hoping for over 70%.

 

[TheWallCrawler]

Are you kidding me? People immediately saying "Well RIM, that's just your opinion and all" and just immediately disowning his review just because it was negative much like every other negative review we've gotten as the fans don't even want to acknowledge them.

Well yes there were people doing that, but at least half of the people were accepting the review, and many people who went all angst about it didn't direct it to RIM, but to the movie expressing their disappointment.

Anyway, my original point is that bat-fans are just as bad as tasm-fans. If there would be as much negative opinions on TDKR as there is on TASM, the situation would be almost the same on the bat-threads. Seriously, bat-fans aren't in anyway above tasm-fans in that department

 

[Leenie]

I'm hoping TASM will be the Eli Manning to SM1-3's Peyton. While everyone fawns over the older brother - rightfully so, he's a legend in his own right - the younger one carves his own (possibly superior?) legacy.

As a lifelong, die-hard Giants fan ... I'll keep this in mind after these new movies win 2 Best Picture Oscars.

Hahaha, in all seriousness though, I don't have high expectations for this new movie, but I won't be the type of person to deny loving it if it's great. I'm in the "whatever happens, happens" boat rather than the "I want this movie to fail" boat.

 

[Lord]

IGN just gave it a 6/10, they normally give high scores

 

[mayo23]

Most of the negative reviews seem to criticize it for being a reboot and that being a good film just isn't good enough. Tough.

 

[TheWallCrawler]

Even when some negative reviews aren't really biased, I think many critics are being too harsh on it just because what position the movie is in, and I think that's a little unfair

 

[grieven]

You guys see Poni_Boy's recent tweets? Very complementary to ASM. I can't tell if his review is us but should be a sweet read for us fans.


Pietro Filipponi ‏@Poni_Boy "RT @stephenp01: @Poni_Boy especially when #2 is the only great film. 1 is barely watchable now and 3 was never watchable."



Pietro Filipponi ‏@Poni_Boy
Full review will be up in later this morning. It's the longest one I've ever written since I go into detail comparing #TASM to Raimi's films





http://***********/Poni_Boy/status/217845196854009858Pietro Filipponi ‏@Poni_Boy
The majority of #TASM detractors are ones who wrote off the film the moment Sony decided to reboot it. Can't let nostalgia make you bias.





Pietro Filipponi ‏@Poni_Boy
"RT @MasterXell: @Poni_Boy even better then Spider-Man 2?" Way better. Raimi's films are hard to watch after seeing this one (I tried).






Pietro Filipponi ‏@Poni_Boy
By far it's the best Spider-Man film I've seen. Felt like watching a great comic book story come to life. 3D worked very well too. #TASM






Pietro Filipponi ‏@Poni_Boy
First thoughts on The Amazing Spider-Man: A strong, character driven film with plenty of heart, magnificent visuals & fantastic action (A)

 

[grieven]

3rd rotten at RT, meter down to 81%.

 

[Leenie]

Most of the negative reviews seem to criticize it for being a reboot and that being a good film just isn't good enough. Tough.

I personally think that's more than fair criticism, since this is a reboot of a movie series that started only 10 years ago and ended only 5 years ago. I know that Sony needed another Spidey flick in time to keep their rights, but remaking the first movie is a step that a lot of people aren't willing to take right now. I mean, if Spider-Man is going to be rebooted this soon, then they had better show something that the people haven't already seen.

I'm seriously fascinated on how this movie is going to perform at the box office. I think it could go either way, regardless of the movie's quality. Crazy.

 

[Octoberist]

I like Peitro though I don't agree with some of his reviews.

 

[Lord]

Yeah, it seems no mather how it was it would be judged negatively just for being a reboot, but they normally forget this criticism after the sequel, i believe the same happened with Batman Begins didn't it?

 

[Octoberist]

Most of the negative reviews seem to criticize it for being a reboot and that being a good film just isn't good enough. Tough.

It has weight in that 'reboot' argument though.

It's hard to escape the comparisons and the 'reboot' issue, and I say that as a Spider-Man fan. Unless it's being reviewed in a vacuum where the Raimi's movie didn't exist, I think the chances of not thinking of the past three movies is impossible. The trilogy has been only engrained into our public lexicon, it wasn't that long ago.

Our brains can shut out certain things but we're only human.

 

[Octoberist]

Even when some negative reviews aren't really biased, I think many critics are being too harsh on it just because what position the movie is in, and I think that's a little unfair

We can't say much until we see it. That's why it's a bit frustrating for fans (or even haters) to praise it or bash it. We just don't know. Yet.

 

[Leenie]

Yeah, it seems no mather how it was it would be judged negatively just for being a reboot, but they normally forget this criticism after the sequel, i believe the same happened with Batman Begins didn't it?

In terms of audience reaction, this could happen with The Amazing Spider-Man: People want to wait for word of mouth, the movie does well enough at the box office but becomes a huge hit during its DVD run, and then the immense hype begins for the sequels.

What separates Batman Begins from The Amazing Spider-Man, though, is that Batman Begins showed the audience something fresh and new. I'm not sure if The Amazing Spider-Man is going to do the same ... We'll see!

 

[Liam_H]

Hmm, I like Drew McWeeny a lot.

 

[Octoberist]

Yeah, it seems no mather how it was it would be judged negatively just for being a reboot, but they normally forget this criticism after the sequel, i believe the same happened with Batman Begins didn't it?

With Batman Begins, it was the start of the 'reboot' age. That and Casino Royale. It was a different time. They were risks and luckily they paid off. They also covered new ground that were barely touched in the previous movies in their respective franchises too, which hurts Spidey. Even though ASM is a new take (same producers though), it's still an origins tale, something that we had a decade ago.

That's the problem with reboots. It has snowballed into a slight avalanche with the new era and we're more conscious of reboots and all that jazz. It doesn't mean a clean slate sometimes.

 

[mayo23]

In terms of audience reaction, this could happen with The Amazing Spider-Man: People want to wait for word of mouth, the movie does well enough at the box office but becomes a huge hit during its DVD run, and then the immense hype begins for the sequels.

What separates Batman Begins from The Amazing Spider-Man, though, is that Batman Begins showed the audience something fresh and new. I'm not sure if The Amazing Spider-Man is going to do the same ... We'll see!

In regards to the bold, some people will find the tonal and visual difference to be new and fresh while others will find that retread of the origin, no matter how different or similar, will think of it as a pointless reboot.

 

[grieven]

Hmm, I like Drew McWeeny a lot.

Wow, his negative review of ASM reads like it could have been written by Devin. But we knew the movie wouldn't work for everyone.

 

[Liam_H]

McWeeny is not a pretentious d-bag that Faraci can be at times.

 

[Octoberist]

Wow, his negative review of ASM reads like it could have been written by Devin. But we knew the movie wouldn't work for everyone.

But Drew's writing style doesn't have that mean-spirited vibe that Devin has. And speaking of Devin, I think he's a great writer. I don't agree with him all the time, but he can be extremely compelling when he hits the right notes...despite his abrasive attitude.

 

[mayo23]

Well, judging from the reviews I'm sensing that I'll at the least enjoy this film. I particularly like how some say ASM is more of a drama, character driven film with action rather than an action film with drama. I'll take a good dramatic, character study film over an action spectacle any day.

 

[Octoberist]

Even though it's a different situation (the origins was done over 30 years ago) I wonder how people will react to another reboot with an origin: Man of Steel?

 

[Liam_H]

Well like you said 30 years ago. Even with that caveat any origin retelling in MOS should do something interesting with it.

 

[Leenie]

In regards to the bold, some people will find the tonal and visual difference to be new and fresh while others will find that retread of the origin, no matter how different or similar, will think of it as a pointless reboot.

Well, like I said, we'll see! What if it does turn out to be a pointless reboot? For a more positive possibility, what if those visual and tonal differences capture the mainstream audience's attention? I think all of this is up in the air at this point. I do think that the movie's success is going to have to rely on word of mouth, though.

I have to mention that different doesn't necessarily mean it's good either. Maybe some of these small changes will turn out great, maybe they'll turn out horrible. I haven't seen the movie yet, so I can't say. In a week, I'll be able to say stuff about it.

What I am saying though is that I'm not expecting to see anything new brought to the table for Spidey like how Nolan brought something new for Batman. Batman was begging to be rebooted ... Spidey, on the other hand, not so much (at least not this soon). If I'm indifferent to what I end up seeing in The Amazing Spider-Man, then yes ... I will classify this as a pointless reboot.