Age of Ultron The Avengers 2! The Official News and Speculation Thread - Upgrade section 5 - - - - - - - - - Part 18

[AvengerPA]

Now that Marvel has the rights to Namor than gives them another mutant character they can use.

 

[DrDoom]

Thought Universal still had the rights? When did Marvel get em back?

 

[Just_Human]

filter + what you are seeing is a sun reflection because they are in the car

ah ok

 

[sabetoonth]

Thought Universal still had the rights? When did Marvel get em back?

Look back on the previous page, Feige said its complicated

 

[guitarsingerguy]

Look back on the previous page, Feige said its complicated

Which isn't exactly synonymous with Marvel having the rights back like some people seem to think it is.

 

[MauriSSio]

Who's they, MS or Disney? Whether you agree with it or not, Marvel wanted Wright and believed in his vision for Ant-Man. Now again, according to these reports/rumors it was Disney execs. sticking their noses in it that caused this conflict with Wright. Possibly new info has come out in the last 24hrs, but this type of interference would be much more disturbing to me then whether Ant-Man is a standalone film. It's one thing if MS has a conflict because at the end of the day they know their characters better then anyone and there would still be a chance for things to work out. But if Disney has suddenly decided they are experts...

Would Whedon tweet a pic of solidarity if Wright's conflict was with Marvel? He's developed relationships with Feige and co. and they gave him the opportunity to become a superstar in Hollywood. He can pretty much write his own ticket going forward now. With Disney on the other hand.... I'm just spitballing here.

Where's the proof that whedon's pic was supposed to be in solidarity with Wright?

 

[darkslayer101]

The action they've shown for DOFP Quicksilver looks great. Exciting that we'll have someone with these powers in Avengers. I think Joss was totally right in going for these 2 as new characters for the difference in their powers compared to the original 6.

As much as I enjoyed that sequence, I thought Quicksilver's power was too unreal to the amount of time he could slow down aka how fast he got. A guy with that much power, one wonders why they didn't keep him around for the finale. That being said the movie is amazing and especially touching and emotional. The action sequences were lacking with not much choreography, and I immensely dislike boneclaws but the spectacle and cgi were properly done.

I just hope AoU will have the same or even more emotional scenes, although i think its hard to rival [Blackout]xavier(past)-charles(future) convo[/Blackout], one thing I'm sure is that the action will be better in AoU and hopefully QS's speed is "realistic"

 

[Iceman]

As much as I enjoyed that sequence, I thought Quicksilver's power was too unreal to the amount of time he could slow down aka how fast he got. A guy with that much power, one wonders why they didn't keep him around for the finale. That being said the movie is amazing and especially touching and emotional. The action sequences were lacking with not much choreography, and I immensely dislike boneclaws but the spectacle and cgi were properly done.

I just hope AoU will have the same or even more emotional scenes, although i think its hard to rival [Blackout]xavier(past)-charles(future) convo[/Blackout], one thing I'm sure is that the action will be better in AoU and hopefully QS's speed is "realistic"

The scene was one of the best in the film (& the series IMO) but it wasn't realistic at all and it might make it difficult to use Quicksilver again without depowering him a little through injury or something like that. I think he should be able to almost insta-dash between locations but doing other things like tieing people's laces for e.g. shouldn't be quite as fast as running.

 

[Iceman]

The song by big Jim was great w/that scene. So many people scream when that song was played (& AWESOME scene too )
BTW: When did QS develop Flash-like powers?

Great choice of song yeah.

And right at that moment. Quicksilver in the comics can't do stuff like that lol.

 

[R_Hythlodeus]

Yeah, but according to the rumors (latest rumors?), this isn't a Marvel Studios conflict but a Disney one. Who really knows, but that would certainly change the equation.

Don't forget those rumors all stem from one article that Eh Maybe wrote, whom I wouldn't believe if my life depended on it

 

[Hyde]

He was right about Drew Goddard leaving Daredevil, quickly confirmed by Marvel themselves, and it's presumably the same source so I doubt he was wrong about the Wright thing.

 

[TheVision]

Its all about the end result with these movies. Its not about rumors, gossip, BTS drama. If I go see Ant Man and I love it (and I most likely will), thats all I care about. Edgar Wright is free to do his own movies his way but its obvious Disney/Marvel wants a certain kind of director for their productions. People should just accept that. How would we be getting Guardians of The Galaxy if they werent open to taking chances? Thats not the problem.

The Drew Goddard thing sounds more like a job choice, but hes still going to be doing some work on DD anyway. So its not a big deal.

 

[sabetoonth]

Which isn't exactly synonymous with Marvel having the rights back like some people seem to think it is.

My exact point of specifying that he said its complicated. He says outright who they do have and who they may share.

 

[Vartha]

Look back on the previous page, Feige said its complicated

Bet it has to do with Universal really not showing any interest in doing anything with Namor.

 

[Xeno]

Its all about the end result with these movies. Its not about rumors, gossip, BTS drama. If I go see Ant Man and I love it (and I most likely will), thats all I care about. Edgar Wright is free to do his own movies his way but its obvious Disney/Marvel wants a certain kind of director for their productions. People should just accept that. How would we be getting Guardians of The Galaxy if they werent open to taking chances? Thats not the problem.

The Drew Goddard thing sounds more like a job choice, but hes still going to be doing some work on DD anyway. So its not a big deal.

By now we all know how Marvel works. Any director they hire has to be in sync with the grand plan for the MCU or they'll get the boot. Wright pitched Ant-Man long before Feige plotted out the phases so he was asked to adapt or leave. It probably was that simple when you break it down.

Some people act like Marvel is being unreasonable but all studios have set needs directors have to meet.

 

[TheVision]

Right, and if he had been hired fresh this year, he wouldnt be in this situation because everyone involved would be on the same page (see The Russos, James Gunn). It sounds like he was attached since before the MCU even started and years went by with him assuming his initial ideas would fit and when he found out they didnt want to do it that way, he split.

What I dont understand is how you can work with a studio over years and not come to an mutual agreement about how your film will be done way ahead of time. Why quit only a few months before production starts? Its odd.

 

[Ghostcrow13]

Pretty sure Wright or Feige said a while back, that they had already made changes to the script in order for it to fit into the MCU, so I don't see the problem being the script didn't fit.

 

[MynAmeIsedDie90]

Guys, DOFP was amazing. I've never been so emotionally invested in a comic book movie before. I really really really hope that Whedon can deliver the same type of weight and emotionality. We all know he can handle group dynamics well and write insanely clever and witty dialogue, but hopefully he has matured as a filmmaker to produce something that has a more cinematic feeling.

 

[Rock Sexton]

Guys, DOFP was amazing. I've never been so emotionally invested in a comic book movie before. I really really really hope that Whedon can deliver the same type of weight and emotionality. We all know he can handle group dynamics well and write insanely clever and witty dialogue, but hopefully he has matured as a filmmaker to produce something that has a more cinematic feeling.

Never been? Well apparently you didn't watch CA:TWS or you did with your eyes closed.

I just got done watching it again and man I can only hope Whedon is able to replicate the emotional beats to some capacity. We got the big spectacle with the first film and now it's time to give depth and even greater complications to this group. I want to feel like I did when Cap fell off the Project Insight Hellicarrier ...... he drifted down in slow motion, the chill of that piano playing in the background. I knew Cap wasn't dead, but that's not the point .... I could pretend in that moment he was because the Russo's did such a fantastic job making me focus on just that moment.

 

[TheVision]

I dont want AOU to try to top anything except The Avengers (my fav super hero movie). If it does that, its enough for me.

 

[MynAmeIsedDie90]

Never been? Well apparently you didn't watch CA:TWS or you did with your eyes closed.

I just got done watching it again and man I can only hope Whedon is able to replicate the emotional beats to some capacity. We got the big spectacle with the first film and now it's time to give depth and even greater complications to this group. I want to feel like I did when Cap fell off the Project Insight Hellicarrier ...... he drifted down in slow motion, the chill of that piano playing in the background. I knew Cap wasn't dead, but that's not the point .... I could pretend in that moment he did because the Russo's did such a fantastic job making me focus on just that moment.

I did see CA:TWS and although it did have emotional moments, they weren't really enough to leave me thinking about them even after the film ended. After DOFP, I kept on thinking about how powerful it was seeing these characters (some characters we've grown with) being killed or about to be killed and how that all hinged upon one character's moral decision. The hopelessness of the future bleak scenes triumphed by the bright hope glimpsed at the end made me tear up immensely.

 

[TheVision]

I havent seen DOFP yet, but it sounds really good. I hope all these Marvel films continue to be great.

 

[Ant-manic]

I did see CA:TWS and although it did have emotional moments, they weren't really enough to leave me thinking about them even after the film ended. After DOFP, I kept on thinking about how powerful it was seeing these characters (some characters we've grown with) being killed or about to be killed and how that all hinged upon one character's moral decision. The hopelessness of the future bleak scenes triumphed by the bright hope glimpsed at the end made me tear up immensely.

i only ended up caring about Xavier, Magneto, and Wolverine.

 

[Rock Sexton]

I did see CA:TWS and although it did have emotional moments, they weren't really enough to leave me thinking about them even after the film ended. After DOFP, I kept on thinking about how powerful it was seeing these characters (some characters we've grown with) being killed or about to be killed and how that all hinged upon one character's moral decision. The hopelessness of the future bleak scenes triumphed by the bright hope glimpsed at the end made me tear up immensely.

So having to decide whether to end the life of your best friend who you haven't seen in almost 70 years and thought for dead doesn't emotionally resonate?

I'll be seeing DOFP in about two hours, but I have a hard time imagining how that relationship between Cap and Bucky doesn't stack up to moral decisions about killing off characters who don't have a similarly deep relationship that's been established ..... especially given how there's bound to be a lot of throwaway mutants who died.

 

[Ant-manic]

WTF RDJ looks partially tanned

Did he spend all day shooting a scene outside wearing some weird tech on the left side of his face ?

Malekith has been posing as RDj all this time.