Age of Ultron The Avengers 2! The Official News and Speculation Thread - Upgrade section 5 - - - - - - - - - - - Part 20

[kosh33]

I'd wait for better pics before we say that for certain. It's a candid pic that's poorly lit/exposed in a hallway and with the two guys and the shadows at play due to his cape and costume I think - in this particular situation - it's playing a bit of an optical illusion and making his arms seem smaller than they probably are

Agreed.. that pic is taken at an angle; that's why the head looks larger.. so people have already started complaining about malnourished Chris? (this time its not Evans)

 

[ctsketch]

Why he so malnourish? He needs sandwhich!

 

[RockSP]

KhrisThor too skinny. Can no lift hammer. Ultro beet Averages with no assist from Asgreedo guard of tundra.

 

[BatsDC]

Wouldn't be an Avengers movie without a malnourished Chris

It'll be Pratt's turn for 3

 

[TJByrum]

I've seriously always thought Evans look a bit skinnier in Avengers. Not in a bad way, but he certainly wasn't as big as he was in Cap1. Doesn't matter to me either way though.

Is this Bourne Woods filming location have to do with HYDRA? Remember the last time they were in the woods and they fought those HYDRA tanks? Wonder if this is a similar scene?

This movie sounds like it'll be huge, epic, and long. Like 3 hours or more?

I seriously can't wait for this movie to come out.

 

[Khonshu]

Looks like his best costume yet.

Agree. Hope we get a few redemptive action scenes for ol' Shell-head - I felt like there was far too little Iron Man when last we saw him in Iron Man 3. The remote piloting stuff was a bit of a cop out.

 

[Silvermoon]

I've seriously always thought Evans look a bit skinnier in Avengers. Not in a bad way, but he certainly wasn't as big as he was in Cap1. Doesn't matter to me either way though.

Personally, I thought that was more an effect of the suit than anything. When he was working out at the beginning or in regular clothes I think he looked about the same. But that dang suit both the design as well as I think the material they used I think did a lot of.... constricting. I'm glad they fixed the problems with his Winter Soldier uniforms as well as - apparently - with this new Avengers uniform.

 

[TalismanRing]

Not malnourished but he looks a bit tired and still in his set makeup and hair. Evans on the set of AoU doing a video bit for Snowpiercer.

http://insidemovies.ew.com/2014/06/24/snowpiercer-video-chris-evans

 

[slumcat]

I've seriously always thought Evans look a bit skinnier in Avengers. Not in a bad way, but he certainly wasn't as big as he was in Cap1. Doesn't matter to me either way though.

Personally, I thought that was more an effect of the suit than anything. When he was working out at the beginning or in regular clothes I think he looked about the same. But that dang suit both the design as well as I think the material they used I think did a lot of.... constricting. I'm glad they fixed the problems with his Winter Soldier uniforms as well as - apparently - with this new Avengers uniform.

Yeah he was probably bigger in Cap 1. But bigger ain't always better. I think he looked much sleeker in Cap 2 and make no mistake, as you can see in the opening scene where he's wearing a muscle shirt, he was still stupendously buff, every inch sculpted to super serum peak condition. It wasn't a drop at all, but more like a refinement. He seemed lighter and looked really fit and could probably run much faster than in Cap 1.

What's more - he gave his most successful performance as Cap yet. Evans has absolutely owned the role in every way. He's taken a character who I did not give two ****s about into a character I am very fond of. All credit to Evan's portrayal of him of course. So much so that I am thrilled to see a third Cap film.

 

[TalismanRing]

Evans said he thought he put on too much mass for Cap 1 - so much he was getting aches in his muscles and joints from the extra weight. Avengers was also filmed very soon after Cap 1 wrapped so I think he didn't have as much time to re-bulk up and it was a long shoot which meant his typical losing mass during a film (not as much time to maintain it with 14-16 hr work days) showed more in some scenes. The suit was very form fitting with thinner material so it didn't hide any weight fluxuations.

I agree his weight and form were the most ideal in TWS. Especially considering he was taking gymnastics and fight classes for months before filming so a need for flexibility and agility took precedence over mass which paid off in spades with the believable physicality of his work in the movie.

 

[Silvermoon]

Not malnourished but he looks a bit tired and still in his set makeup and hair.

Just a note Talisman - as you might be relatively new to the boards (going by your join date), if you ever see us mentioning actors looking malnourished or needing to eat something than it's a joke/we're not serious - at least... pretty sure most of us aren't serious (specifically in that we're poking fun at a user named echostation (it was echostation, right guys? haven't noticed them around in a few months) who would go on and on and on about Chris Evans being too skinny/malnourished.... I think he would also complained about the shade of blue that Cap was wearing too)

 

[TalismanRing]

Thanks but I'm not new to the boards (I lurked for a long time) or echostation's often stream of conscious ramblings about Evan's body - I was posting that tongue in cheek.

 

[Silvermoon]

Thanks but I'm not new to the boards (I lurked for a long time) or echostation's often stream of conscious ramblings about Evan's body - I was posting that tongue in cheek.

OK, just wasn't sure... sometimes we get newbies that don't know when we're kidding

 

[Rock Sexton]

Evans said he thought he put on too much mass for Cap 1 - so much he was getting aches in his muscles and joints from the extra weight. Avengers was also filmed very soon after Cap 1 wrapped so I think he didn't have as much time to re-bulk up and it was a long shoot which meant his typical losing mass during a film (not as much time to maintain it with 14-16 hr work days) showed more in some scenes. The suit was very form fitting with thinner material so it didn't hide any weight fluxuations.

I agree his weight and form were the most ideal in TWS. Especially considering he was taking gymnastics and fight classes for months before filming so a need for flexibility and agility took precedence over mass which paid off in spades with the believable physicality of his work in the movie.

Wait .... show me where he was working 14-16 hour work days and also show me where he said his muscles/joints ached from the weight. Being sore and achy from working out is a natural part of the process. You act like he put on 60lbs for CA:TFA. He only put on like 10-12 lbs and with his frame he can carry it perfectly fine.

From time to time I see comments in here about lifting and it just shows me how little certain people actually know of the subject.

 

[MauriSSio]

Wait .... show me where he was working 14-16 hour work days and also show me where he said his muscles/joints ached from the weight. Being sore and achy from working out is a natural part of the process. You act like he put on 60lbs for CA:TFA. He only put on like 10-12 lbs and with his frame he can carry it perfectly fine.

From time to time I see comments in here about lifting and it just shows me how little certain people actually know of the subject.

Maybe it wasn't about his frame but about his joints and smaller supporting muscles. I know when I was lifting (too) heavy I felt like I always had some part of me that was hurting or injured. Not just sore. Everybody is different. I dropped my reps in bench press from 260lbs down to 225lbs and my shoulder pains were drastically reduced. My wrist wasn't liking 45-50lbs curls so now I don't go much over 35-40lbs. Maybe Chris Evans was injured? That plus all the Hollywood steroids and growth hormones probably pushed his body too fast?

 

[Suzanne78]

TalismanRing: Loved the video you posted. I can see rings under my boo's eyes… I just want to give the boy some soup, maybe a blanket and pillows, LOL! He looks tired, but he looks REALLY good in his Steve hair; looks a little more old-fashioned than in TWS.

YAY! Back to my favorite topic… Chris Evans' body. This is him discussing some of the aches and pains of working out for TFA: http://www.menshealth.co.uk/living/men/chris-evans-interview

Even as Captain America hits the cinemas, Evans has begun work on a series of another five Avengers films, in which he will return to his supersized physique time and again.
That sense of focus drives him in his training. “I’m a big fan of working out on my own,” he says. “I put my headphones on and I’m pretty good at self-motivating. At the end of the day, I enjoy it. Once I’m there and once I get going, I tend to love it, and I feel good. If I don’t work out for a couple of days I feel lousy.” It’s all part of the package that affords a regular man extraordinary results.
“I don’t think my body is supposed to be as big as it got for Captain America...,” he says. “There was a strain on some joints. After a month and a half of training I found my right shoulder would click and my left pec would hurt. It was an ever-evolving workout, in which we always found ways to work around the parts of me that were sore.
“There are certain things that hurt more than others,” he says, then brings it right back to the everyday experience. “But that seems to be pretty universal. Every guy I know has some sort of freak injury in their body.” It’s good to know that beneath the outlandish exterior, there’s a little bit of humanity there, too.

While it sounds like some standard aches and pains, perhaps Chris wanted to change up his training routines for the next few movies in order to preserve his body. Which I'm fine with; whatever he did for Snowpiercer and TWS, it worked. He did gymnastics training and he ended up doing a lot of his own stunt work. If he had injured himself during TFA, we might have seen a way different TWS.

I can't find the article(s) about where he talks about workdays, but I remember him discussing Redford's presence on the set after a very long day of shooting, reading through lines and stuff.

 

[Joeyjojo72]

Anybody see Snowpiercer yet? Evans is fantastic, the best thing about an already solid film. I wasn't sure he had that kind of range. Now I am.

 

[Suzanne78]

Anybody see Snowpiercer yet? Evans is fantastic, the best thing about an already solid film. I wasn't sure he had that kind of range. Now I am.

LORD I LOVED THAT MOVIE!! Like, best of the year for me (of a movie that was released this year… granted I've only seen three!), but also best of the batch that I saw that was released in 2013 too.

But yes, Chris Evans NAILED it! He and Tilda Swinton nailed their roles. The cast was impeccable, and the film really is a great sci-fi epic, what Elysium should've been but wasn't.

Someone described it as a Terry Gilliam movie as dystopian fairy-tale. Accurate! It's criminal that it likely will miss out on awards season, as TWC had no idea what to do with it.

 

[TheVision]

Snowpiercer sounds really good! Cool that Chris is doing other quality projects besides Marvel stuff now. Honestly he was in a lot of lame teen type movies over the years. I wasnt much of a fan of him before Cap actually haha

 

[TalismanRing]

I can't find the article(s) about where he talks about workdays, but I remember him discussing Redford's presence on the set after a very long day of shooting, reading through lines and stuff.

The first day we shot together, we shot a 15-hour day, and at the end of the day … the Russos like their coverage … and at the end of the day, it was a lot of my stuff. He had minimal lines and he really could have left. There are a lot of actors that would have left and been like, “Are you cool with doing this with someone else?” Which I think kind of sucks when actors do that. But he didn’t do that! He stuck around. It’s past midnight and this guy’s here doing off-cameras with me. It’s just classy. Just a classy guy, a talented guy. He classes up this whole project.

http://collider.com/chris-evans-captain-america-winter-soldier-interview/#eAhku1IQCdSAfwiQ.99

Film work days are long - especially for the director, the crew and the lead actors. It isn't a 9 to 5 job.

Evans said it's one of the reasons he loves do the Avengers movies - that there are days and sometimes weeks off during the schedule because he's just one of many and not the lead who's there every day.

 

[TalismanRing]

Snowpiercer sounds really good! Cool that Chris is doing other quality projects besides Marvel stuff now. Honestly he was in a lot of lame teen type movies over the years. I wasnt much of a fan of him before Cap actually haha

To be fair he was really young when he was doing those teen movies. He was only 19 when he did Not Another Teen Movie and 20 when he did A Perfect Score with Scarlett who was 17. Even for FF4 he was just 23. He did Sunshine when he was 24 and it's one of his best movies and roles.

 

[Xhexania]

Anybody see Snowpiercer yet? Evans is fantastic, the best thing about an already solid film. I wasn't sure he had that kind of range. Now I am.

Saw Snowpiercer too and it is a great film!! I liked how much of a critic about social classes it is! great sci-fi movie too and Evans performance is amazing, he had me engaged in his character in one way and then turned the tables completely with it and WOW, just amazing! But I always thought he was a good actor doing some bad films :P he is great in Sunshine, that movie is really interesting too!

Back to the weight/mass of muscles discussion, I think Evans was a little slimmer in Avengers compared to TFA, but also the suit was tight enough to make him look like that; didn´t he said for the TFA re-shoots, there was a small accident, something involved with a car, and he was injured in the set , saw it somewhere... nothing big but the re-shoots were done before he went to the Avengers, so maybe he also slowed down his training because of that. But like many said, I think Cap looks were the best in TWS, all that parkour and gymnastic must had worked to make him more agile, while still looking built

Chris H, looks big in that pic, his arms are as usual, but maybe he didn go back to Thor´s size, since for TDW promo he was slim, which is understandable, he can´t have Thor´s size for all his roles, the same with Evans, for Snowpiercer he lost weight.

 

[Suzanne78]

Film work days are long - especially for the director, the crew and the lead actors. It isn't a 9 to 5 job.

Evans said it's one of the reasons he loves do the Avengers movies - that there are days and sometimes weeks off during the schedule because he's just one of many and not the lead who's there every day.

I was looking for that! That's the exact article I was referencing.

Yeah, workdays on these sets, especially for a movie like Captain America can be long long long. Especially for Chris who's practically in every scene.

Chris H, looks big in that pic, his arms are as usual, but maybe he didn go back to Thor´s size, since for TDW promo he was slim, which is understandable, he can´t have Thor´s size for all his roles, the same with Evans, for Snowpiercer he lost weight.

There's actually a really nice interview with Bong Joon-Ho, the director of Snowpiercer, where he said they had to somehow hide all of Chris' muscles for the movie, given the nature of his character, LOL!

I believe it's here: http://collider.com/bong-joon-ho-snowpiercer-interview/ Mild spoilers, I put them under a cut, and beware that interview for Snowpiercer might be spoilery….

BONG JOON-HO: The casting director recommended him, initially, and said that he’s not just about the Marvel movies. Of course, Captain America is a cool character and he’s great in that, but they introduced me to a movie called Puncture, that’s an indie film where he shows his sensitive acting abilities, and I’d previously seen Danny Boyle’s Sunshine. So, he was in between his Marvel projects and was very actively looking for different types of projects. He heard about this project, and it was a nice mutual attraction. It was my first English language film, and I got a lot of help from Chris. He’s a really smart guy, and we had a lot of discussions about the dialogue. It was great. The hardest thing about working with Chris was hiding his muscles.

Spoiler

He’s supposed to be in the poor tail section for 17 years, eating only protein blocks,

and it was tricky to hide all of that muscle mass with costume and make-up.

 

[TheVision]

Talisman: True, Im just saying I wasnt into most of those movies with him. I think hes probably getting much better movie roles now thanks to popularity in the MCU which is so great to see

 

[Xhexania]

There's actually a really nice interview with Bong Joon-Ho, the director of Snowpiercer, where he said they had to somehow hide all of Chris' muscles for the movie, given the nature of his character, LOL!

lol yes!! I saw that interview, and it´s funny to see that even with all the weight Evans lost (during the Avengers press he was very slim) and all the layers of clothes used to cover him in the movie, he still looked like a big guy compared to the rest in tha cast, that is probably his body frame!