I'm still thinking Howard Stark is more involved than Zola and Stark in Ultron's creation..
Shield being infiltrated by Hydra would play a role and the entire world is almost deceived into it.
Kind of like what someone posted about Ultron hypnotizing Jarvis and leading the masters.. Tricked into it, hacked. Mandarin was called "Master". And we were sort of preconditioned along with the world by certain things that happened in IM3, to manipulate Tony's subconscious and sell the Oracle predictive/analytic software to Jarvis. Killian (not Trevor), screwed up the act/plan, Trevor had to handle things.
Shield agents are trained to look at people's psychologies, so the plan had to be very complicated to fool Shield/rival spies. Many people have infiltrated Shield, with more effective doubles than LMDs. Hydra is trying to secure high level positions of power by replacing powerful people's minds and bodies. Killian lied, it wasn't all about supply and demand. Killian was also putting on a show. Showing off his brain, trying to get funding from Stark and stealing Maya's research/ideas., making himself look more presentable in the future. Killian liked to show off his big brain. Killian used Maya's research, he had been tracking Maya's research before 1999 and does a poor job of selling himself in the beginning. Killian only wants to advance ideas. He has no advanced ideas of his own besides the name Mandarin, and part of the plan to cover up Extremis failures.
Howard Stark also gave Shield the early anti-grav tech for the Helicarriers, and will be featured in CA2 in some way. Possibly alongside Zola... Howard Stark was trying to get androids off the ground back then.
We've been told Ultron is an evolution, I think many people in the world will have a hand in it, over the years, and that it did secretly end up with Pym's brain patterns.... but we're not allowed to know this yet, because Pym himself has become Yellowjacket, and Lang is Antman.... Once they gave the Trevor clone a name it was all over, killian created the name/idea, but he never lived in and brought the character to life, like the man we think we know is named Trevor did.... This man will never tell us his real name... Ever since the dragon named him and created him, there is only the Mandarin ruling the mind of "Trevor" and the "real Mandarin"...
Once you give someone a name it changes them. Maybe Pym forgets his name, has multiple personas, doesn't like the name Ant Man, and this "Trevor" is actually a clone, who wants to be called Mandarin from now on. He brought the character to life, and is based on the mind/genetics of a master Hydra spy the "think tank" collected...
Pym worked for this "think tank" before they became AIM, they were stealing brain patterns, stealing tech, and stealing the destinies of very intelligent people. Killian could not act convincingly enough in 1999 to make Maya give him the Extremis, and Tony saw through his charade at that point. Killian was trying to get his foot in the door, and wanted Stark's money and Maya's mind. Killian never created a single thing by himself. It was all Maya's research, all there in 1999, along with the fix the mechanic could provide, and they NEED Stark's mind to fix Extremis....
Stark's defensive ego has stopped them from hacking all the way into his mind, although the real Mandarin has already secretly invaded Stark's dreams, and made his old nightmares stop....
Stark thinks it's safe to sleep now, but it's not. It's a trick. that's the only way the Masters and Ultron hypnotize him and Jarvis into doing their bidding... It's not Hawkeye who the team must worry about this time, and because they are subtly manipulating his subconscious, Tony does not know why he is doing things...He's been pre-programmed... to respond in certain ways when "Trevor", Tony and Ultron fight for control over the globe...
Howard Stark once ran Shield. Tony is only a consultant right now. But what if all the upper management at Shield suddenly vacates and Howard was one of the good ones they had before he left? They might sort of trust Stark eventually if his father already ran Shield, and Fury is still rogue... Pierce is gone and Maria Hill decides to make Tony temporary director of Shield...The Masters would lose pierce but they'd gain an evil influenced Tony who is now running Shield for them. Secretly the real Mandarin is already in the President's mind, and he was strung up to be taken back after the fight the tv cameras captured. They were just making good tv, that's how you hypnotize the masses into it without them knowing... Hydra will soon have control of the minds of every powerful head of state and industry... Many heads are better than one for the Hydra and the "think tank". Many things in IM3 may get darker and funnier at the same time when we find out Killian was a clone since 1999, and the first Killian really did get off on the "ground floor" like he hoped to... The Killian we saw later is the true actor, in Mandarin's massive play... One they tested Extremis on repeatedly in the early days, who has died many times and changed shape before we saw him. Then breathed fire and had a dragon Tatoo and claimed to have created the Mandarin idea, but he never wore the costume, the name never became a part of him like Scorch's name did. IN the shield show coulson says something like, "oh no they gave him a name". When Killian says I am the mandarin it's not the same way Stark finally realizes he actually is Iron Man after saying the same thing in IM1...
Shield being infiltrated by Hydra would play a role and the entire world is almost deceived into it.
Kind of like what someone posted about Ultron hypnotizing Jarvis and leading the masters.. Tricked into it, hacked. Mandarin was called "Master". And we were sort of preconditioned along with the world by certain things that happened in IM3, to manipulate Tony's subconscious and sell the Oracle predictive/analytic software to Jarvis. Killian (not Trevor), screwed up the act/plan, Trevor had to handle things.
Shield agents are trained to look at people's psychologies, so the plan had to be very complicated to fool Shield/rival spies. Many people have infiltrated Shield, with more effective doubles than LMDs. Hydra is trying to secure high level positions of power by replacing powerful people's minds and bodies. Killian lied, it wasn't all about supply and demand. Killian was also putting on a show. Showing off his brain, trying to get funding from Stark and stealing Maya's research/ideas., making himself look more presentable in the future. Killian liked to show off his big brain. Killian used Maya's research, he had been tracking Maya's research before 1999 and does a poor job of selling himself in the beginning. Killian only wants to advance ideas. He has no advanced ideas of his own besides the name Mandarin, and part of the plan to cover up Extremis failures.
Howard Stark also gave Shield the early anti-grav tech for the Helicarriers, and will be featured in CA2 in some way. Possibly alongside Zola... Howard Stark was trying to get androids off the ground back then.
We've been told Ultron is an evolution, I think many people in the world will have a hand in it, over the years, and that it did secretly end up with Pym's brain patterns.... but we're not allowed to know this yet, because Pym himself has become Yellowjacket, and Lang is Antman.... Once they gave the Trevor clone a name it was all over, killian created the name/idea, but he never lived in and brought the character to life, like the man we think we know is named Trevor did.... This man will never tell us his real name... Ever since the dragon named him and created him, there is only the Mandarin ruling the mind of "Trevor" and the "real Mandarin"...
Once you give someone a name it changes them. Maybe Pym forgets his name, has multiple personas, doesn't like the name Ant Man, and this "Trevor" is actually a clone, who wants to be called Mandarin from now on. He brought the character to life, and is based on the mind/genetics of a master Hydra spy the "think tank" collected...
Pym worked for this "think tank" before they became AIM, they were stealing brain patterns, stealing tech, and stealing the destinies of very intelligent people. Killian could not act convincingly enough in 1999 to make Maya give him the Extremis, and Tony saw through his charade at that point. Killian was trying to get his foot in the door, and wanted Stark's money and Maya's mind. Killian never created a single thing by himself. It was all Maya's research, all there in 1999, along with the fix the mechanic could provide, and they NEED Stark's mind to fix Extremis....
Stark's defensive ego has stopped them from hacking all the way into his mind, although the real Mandarin has already secretly invaded Stark's dreams, and made his old nightmares stop....
Stark thinks it's safe to sleep now, but it's not. It's a trick. that's the only way the Masters and Ultron hypnotize him and Jarvis into doing their bidding... It's not Hawkeye who the team must worry about this time, and because they are subtly manipulating his subconscious, Tony does not know why he is doing things...He's been pre-programmed... to respond in certain ways when "Trevor", Tony and Ultron fight for control over the globe...
Howard Stark once ran Shield. Tony is only a consultant right now. But what if all the upper management at Shield suddenly vacates and Howard was one of the good ones they had before he left? They might sort of trust Stark eventually if his father already ran Shield, and Fury is still rogue... Pierce is gone and Maria Hill decides to make Tony temporary director of Shield...The Masters would lose pierce but they'd gain an evil influenced Tony who is now running Shield for them. Secretly the real Mandarin is already in the President's mind, and he was strung up to be taken back after the fight the tv cameras captured. They were just making good tv, that's how you hypnotize the masses into it without them knowing... Hydra will soon have control of the minds of every powerful head of state and industry... Many heads are better than one for the Hydra and the "think tank". Many things in IM3 may get darker and funnier at the same time when we find out Killian was a clone since 1999, and the first Killian really did get off on the "ground floor" like he hoped to... The Killian we saw later is the true actor, in Mandarin's massive play... One they tested Extremis on repeatedly in the early days, who has died many times and changed shape before we saw him. Then breathed fire and had a dragon Tatoo and claimed to have created the Mandarin idea, but he never wore the costume, the name never became a part of him like Scorch's name did. IN the shield show coulson says something like, "oh no they gave him a name". When Killian says I am the mandarin it's not the same way Stark finally realizes he actually is Iron Man after saying the same thing in IM1...
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