BvS The Batsuit Thread - - Part 15

[Guts]

I hear there is a new combo move in the game that allows Batman to break out into song. Its pretty rad.

arkham asylum was originally going to be a dancing game.

 

[Lily Adler]

My ONE stipulation is that the YELLOW OVAL IS A MUST!

 

[lujho]

Someone in the previous thread said there was a rendering of the AO suit that was in realistic human proportions. I don't suppose anyone's got a link?

 

[Mr. Finger]

Calling it ugly as if that's some kind of fact which cannot be disputed isn't helping you make your point. It'd be easier for you to say something like, "I don't like it because I don't like when Batman looks THAT armored. I like it when Batman's suit has a more simple design, especially when it reflects how he looks in the comics."

Also, focusing on "functional advantages" is sort of a waste of time since, you know, we're talking about a pretty fantastical video game. Has anyone ever said that Batman's suit in B:TAS is more functional because it's light-weight fabric allowed Batman to move faster? No, because it doesn't matter. It looked cool and fit with the context/aesthetic of the series. This new AK suit certainly fits within the general aesthetic guidelines of the Arkham games, especially when you consider the gadgets, environments, and designs for several of the villains. Plus, these games are not only influenced by the comic book canon, but also by B:TAS and the pre-existing Batman films like the TDK trilogy. (And despite all I just said, much of this new suit does look functional to me)

To me, this is a well-designed suit that looks better (in concept and execution) than the TDK suit. No, I don't like the bevel in the cowl. No, I don't want to see Affleck wear this suit in the new film series. But it's still an interesting, alternate aesthetic take on Batman.

I kind of agree with most of this...
I do not really like this new AK suit, but it is because I think about these suits with a practical mindset. Plus, I always think that once a suit becomes really tech and plump... The cape looks useless and unnecessary.

These suits work because it is a CG environment, like the source material.. It doesn't have to make sense. Weight does not matter, nor does the true design aesthetics of the over/under application of the hard parts. Throw what looks like a hundred pounds or armor on Bruce, and he we still be able to move quick and kick ass.

Looking at the AK suit, my mind tells me that when bent over? The pieces would not allow that to happen... All crouching ability would be lost due to the fact that the design of what is there leaves no room for mobility with out the armor hitting itself, and clashing.. But again.. It is only a game.

I have a very strong feeling, What we see in the new film with Snyder and Affleck will look nothing like this...

Some bring up the old "strike fear" and "creature of the night" ideas? When it becomes this much armor? It leads me to believe that the image isn't work anymore, and Batman adds protection due to him expecting more blows being sent his way...
I would rather have stealth.. Detective.. And less armor...
But that may lead to a very boring game to play..

 

[Herolee10]

You know, regarding the "Arkham Knight" Suit, from what I saw... it seems like some parts of his suit are actually mechanic.

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised because it would make sense considering on how Bruce can still move around very fast despite carrying all of that armor.

While I'm not saying that Bruce should go full on "Iron Man" route, I do think that if the character is going to don a suit that has several armor pieces attached to it for protection, he should have some parts of it mechanized so that he doesn't have to worry about having to carry the entire weight of the armor himself.

 

[BattleAngel]

Woah... I step away from my computer for a day and look what happens. This thread explodes!!!

A few thoughts w/o going through the trouble of direct quoting:

1) This suit does indeed go for the same thing that the Musical suit goes for, except it accomplishes it. As some have stated, it's a tough comparison because the Musical Suit is a cheaper product value... It's also not well thought out at all. Production value aside, it's a similar look, except that the Arkham Knight suit actually seems to be engineered - it's a functional suit that has more going on for it than just "looking complicated." It has some pretty amazing articulation built into the design, and in general looks pretty damn functional and made out of the right materials for the job. So to answer the question of why one could rationally be called bad ass (I'm certainly not calling it that) whereas the musical suit could not... it's because one suit was designed to be feasible whereas the other one was designed to look as though it had a purpose. You could rationally say that the AK suit is "bad ass" because it actually incorporates a lot of thought.
2) The suit is almost as ugly as TDKT suit, but not quite, in my opinion. Again, its actually having some smart design built in, vs. just "looking complicated" saves it from being quite as bad.
3) I sort of like TDKT suit and this suit, in the "I can't pry my eyes away from this trainwreck" sort of a way.
4) God damn, the Arkham design team likes comically big things. Chill this suit out even a bit, and put it on a slimmer build for Batman, and it's pretty cool.
5) This suit looks like a hilarious attempt to incorporate every idea ever posted to this thread into one suit, or rather, an attempt to anger virtually everybody with a horse in the suit race It's kind of a perfect storm of awful... and for that reason, refer back to comment #3.
6) To those who think this looks like a Batsuit - myeeeeah, that's a REAL stretch. This suit hits the bullet-points of "musts" for a Batsuit, to be sure, but it also hits the same number of bullet-points for Robocop's "suit." This suit takes us firmly into Robobat territory.
7) The utility belt is *awesome.*

Ultimately, I don't think we have to worry about anything remotely like this for Batfleck.

But just incase we do, y'all know I wouldn't show up to the party without bringing a few presents...

 

[Lily Adler]

The problem is the suit looks far too bulky to me.

 

[craigdbfan]

Heh. Goes to show the ridiculous similarity that even when you put Affleck's jaw it looks almost entirely the same as the Arkham Blur model.

 

[CosBlade]

Someone in the previous thread said there was a rendering of the AO suit that was in realistic human proportions. I don't suppose anyone's got a link?

Ask and you shall receive.

http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/348/b/5/batman_origins_ksrender_5_by_patokali-d6xwuzt.jpg

 

[John-An]

 

[MrsKent26]

Ugh, I just can't with this suit. The bottom pic just looks bad to me. I don't want to bash it too much because as I've said before I don't get that worked up about suits in games. But, if the movie suit looked like this, I would be disappointed. I hate on WW's costume because it looks like a swimsuit with metal stuck on it and I don't like this because it looks like a snowsuit with armor stuck on it.

But, to be less negative...I do like the belt and the Affleck resemblance in the batman character model used for this game.

 

[BattleAngel]

Ask and you shall receive.

http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/348/b/5/batman_origins_ksrender_5_by_patokali-d6xwuzt.jpg

That's only vaguely more human, but it counts a bit...

I did an arkham one a while back with a lot of attention paid to the anatomy (and many other tweaks here and there), it's the city suit, and imho it rocks somewhat tremendously...

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I think the suit is fine for the videogame.

 

[RAE072]

What if we get something like...this...

I'll be disappointed.

 

[MrsKent26]

I'll be disappointed.

What if it was black and gray?

 

[RAE072]

What if it was black and gray?

Slightly less disappointed.

I'll never like the "clearly armor" under the fabric look because it's painfully obvious.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, if you want classic look with realistic function you go Lee Bermejo's Batsuit.

But I also really like Arkham Knight's suit, so what do I know?

 

[RAE072]

Oh and does Bruce look like Ben Affleck a little while he's maskless in the cave in the trailer?

He does to me.

 

[MrsKent26]

I wouldn't want obvious armor under the fabric either. I think that manip was done using TDKR suit as a base, so that's probably part of the reason it looks like that. I just want some sort of protective fabric, not armor. And there's nothing wrong with liking the AK suit. A couple others do, too. Not me though, lol.

And yes, he looks like Affleck to me too.

 

[RAE072]

Just reminds me of this too much:

Spoiler

He's basically wearing slightly more protective football pads under a fabric shirt.

And it'd just be too jarring. For me at least.

Bermejo design is the way to go.

 

[MrsKent26]

I like the manip overall with the exception of the armor under the fabric. And I think the manipper wanted it to look like it was just fabric over his own muscles, it just didn't come out quite right. It's the general concept of the manip I like, but there are a couple flaws in the execution.

I do like the Bermejo suit in some shots too. But I remember the ab area being a bit complicated there too.

 

[lujho]

Just reminds me of this too much:

Spoiler

He's basically wearing slightly more protective football pads under a fabric shirt.

And it'd just be too jarring. For me at least.

Something like that would look fine under fabric, because the armour is anatomical in shape - except for the shoulders, which would look bad under fabric.

The TDK suit would also look bad under fabric because the plates aren't organic enough, it would look terrible. Something like a slimmed down origins suit might look good under fabric.

 

[whoa123]

I really like this Flecking you did BattleAngel and the caption on it is too damn hilarious!

Now, I really like the new Arkham Knight suit because it's like an exoskeleton or a performance enhancer suit or something and it seems to fit on how they are closing on the Arkham games, a war type of game.

I don't want to see that suit on the big screen though, however I would like to see some type of a suit that enhances Bats' strength and agility and whatnot to faceoff with Supes (I remember hearing something like that earlier this year or last year, am I right?).

 

[matt47]

Gotta say, it looks awesome how the chest peaces expand for movement.

 

[geordie_batfan]

The new Arkham suit is waaaaaaaay too shiny. How would Batman hide in the shadows in a suit like that?

 

[Smallville13]

Not digging the B:AK shiny armor suit.

I guess New 52 suit is the way to go. I'm still not sure if it balances out correctly without the trunks or at least a darker belt, but lighting plays a part in that.