BvS The Batsuit Thread - - - - Part 27

[TheNextNolan22]

Anyone who thinks he will be able to properly turn his neck are fooling themselves. "A lot of incredible engineering" doesn't mean it won't look wonky as hell when he does turn it. There's no possible way THAT cowl there will look natural when bent at the neck. Think about it lol.

They are gonna stick with the full body motion ala Batman Begins. If he does turn his neck, it will be edited or even touched up with CGI.

There will be some major movie magic going on. Especially if the cowl is removable.

The same costume designer for this movie did these costumes:

He's going to be able turn his head AND fold his cowl back. Wilkinson even said this was one of the first conversations him and Snyder had for this movie.

 

[Dninx64]

I've said it before a 1000x now. Night Owl was able to turn his neck just fine, and his cowl looked even more ridged than the new Bat-cowl. Plus we've been told that they purposefully engineered it to be able to turn his neck and have mobility for fights.

How much more info do you need to start to realize the truth of the matter?

The trailer showing Batman's back towards the audience and see him turning his head looking at us t:

 

[Loden Greatstorm]

The same costume designer for this movie did these costumes:

He's going to be able turn his head AND fold his cowl back. Wilkinson even said this was one of the first conversations him and Snyder had for this movie.

Are you sure about that?

 

[Dninx64]

The same costume designer for this movie did these costumes:

He's going to be able turn his head AND fold his cowl back. Wilkinson even said this was one of the first conversations him and Snyder had for this movie.

I'm not worried at all.

 

[Travesty]

The trailer showing Batman's back towards the audience and see him turning his head looking at us t:

Or maybe some exposition as to how and why he can now turn his neck.

 

[Dninx64]

Or maybe some exposition as to how and why he can now turn his neck.

With Superman's help

 

[KillerWolf]

The same costume designer for this movie did these costumes:

He's going to be able turn his head AND fold his cowl back. Wilkinson even said this was one of the first conversations him and Snyder had for this movie.

I think they used special cowl that was able to fold for that scene. But who gives a damn if the "regular" cowl can fold or not? We won't know whether it's the same cowl or not when watching the movie. I just hope we'll get a scene where he folds his cowl like this.

 

[craigaat]

Exactly!

 

[souperman]

there IS a difference between being able to turn ones neck and turning it well. ; )

I think he will be able to "move" his head better than other renditions but he will not be a contortionist. Besides, To have any "real" protection the neck and head would necessarily be less movable, so he doesn't "break" his neck (theoretically) when he falls and crashes...or gets pinky flicked in the face by Superman.

 

[titansupes]

With Superman's help

Heeeyy, noobie got game.

 

[souperman]

With Superman's help

yes, Superman will "help" Batman turn his neck...all the way around !

 

[rockandrollsoul]

Anyone who thinks he will be able to properly turn his neck are fooling themselves. "A lot of incredible engineering" doesn't mean it won't look wonky as hell when he does turn it. There's no possible way THAT cowl there will look natural when bent at the neck. Think about it lol.

They are gonna stick with the full body motion ala Batman Begins. If he does turn his neck, it will be edited or even touched up with CGI.

There will be some major movie magic going on. Especially if the cowl is removable.

Wilkinson specifically said that that's not happening.

 

[Micromind]

They have multiple suits and cowls made for shooting different types of action scenes, it's possible that for action scenes they have a cowl that can turn, but it may not be used for close-up shots of Batman.

Just for example, in SR, there were many types of capes designed for different scenes in the movie, each having different height and weight, though they all looked same from distance.

 

[KillerWolf]

Exactly.

 

[souperman]

The Nite Owl suit is a great example of what we can expect for the action of Batman.

Nite Owl moved very fast and limber and could turn his neck and look around. Granted, his cowl was more like a wet suit hood with horns attached but the same principle.

Add some neck bulges and shazam...uh, sorry Mr. LuthOr,... whala !

 

[Manofplastic]

Nolan wanted to hammer into his series that his batman wanted to appear "scary" to criminals. Its all about fear. Thinking back on that and comparing nolans suit to this one, it would seem Nolan didn't come CLOSE to that idea. Nolans looks more like tactile armor. THIS is scary. I mean could you imagine seeing this perched on top of a building at night. Absolutely terrifying! I do however like to perpetrate the idea that Nolans bat series is an "else worlds" tale of what would happen if a real batman existed in something closer to our world, and I still love his series.

actually, nolan kinda did that but only on crane's hallucination drugs

it looks....very similar, actually

indeed though, nolan's batman looks more like a 'tactical suit', it fits though, they run the military-grade-tools used throughout the 3 movies, and it works - atleast to me, it has a sense of 'believability' to it.

Nevertheless, i really dig the way this batman is shaping up, only thing i haven't liked still is the 'bat ears' are a bit small imho. but well, let's see what happens

 

[KillerMcQueen]

Yeah, I'm sure Wilkinson is gonna make sure that Batman's cowl isn't as good as Nite Owl's

Seriously, the dude isn't going to take steps backwards from Watchmen's Nite Owl cowl, that'd just be stupid.

 

[Boom]

If I have any concern, it's that the neck might be a bit too round or bulbous-looking. Like Batman swallowed an eggplant whole.

Of course, what we see in the trailer is an empty cowl, so it might fill out a bit better once it's being worn.

 

[Rowsdower!]

The trailer showing Batman's back towards the audience and see him turning his head looking at us t:

The trailer should be nothing but close ups of Batman's neck movements and Superman's hairline.

 

[Mr. Blue Sky]

The trailer showing Batman's back towards the audience and see him turning his head looking at us t:

That reminds me of that fake teaser being passed around last fall,

[YT]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qTImg-7q-Q[/YT]

 

[KillerWolf]

The trailer should be nothing but close ups of Batman's neck movements and Superman's hairline.

Or lack of it. t:

 

[CosBlade]

Literally all they have to do to get good movement in the neck is make the cowl out of foam latex instead of urethane. Batman Dead End did this over a decade ago and say what you want about that suit as a whole, but the cowl and neck motions looked great.

Hollywood avoids this for Lord knows what reason. Maybe major urethane suppliers are also major Hollywood producers. /sarcasm

At any rate, there's no reason to think Snyder would want a stiff necked batcowl after having Nite Owl's mobility in Watchmen. I'm sure Batflleck will be able to turn his head just fine.

 

[Proximo]

Literally all they have to do to get good movement in the neck is make the cowl out of foam latex instead of urethane. Batman Dead End did this over a decade ago and say what you want about that suit as a whole, but the cowl and neck motions looked great.

Hollywood avoids this for Lord knows what reason. Maybe major urethane suppliers are also major Hollywood producers. /sarcasm

At any rate, there's no reason to think Snyder would want a stiff necked batcowl after having Nite Owl's mobility in Watchmen. I'm sure Batflleck will be able to turn his head just fine.

Aside from a couple of urethane cowls being used in TDK & TDKR all previous batcowls and suits were foam latex. The reason it was so flexible (still buckling/folding when moving) in DE was because it was sculpted very thin/close to the actors face so the thickness of the foam latex was paper thin compared to previous movie cowls.

 

[BeastWings]

I know it's en vogue to hate on Nolan's Bat suits, as if they are even that old ... and I admit the lower body of TDK / TDKR suit was over designed. They also weren't exactly classic forms or truest to the source in terms of faithfulness.

But the Nolan suits held up well in brighter lightning and less atmospheric or more realistic settings.

More functional, militaristic, plausible and tactical in their approach to the design of Batman in TDK trilogy. It fit their world and take on the mythos.

This BvS suit however? My lawd. The perfect balance of all the best visual forms of Batman IMO and next to the 89 suit it's by far the most faithful Bat suit to grace the screen. Like the Batmobile I think it more appropriate balances the functionality and theatricality of what Batman should be.

The Snyder suit looks demonic. Expressive. Organic. Projecting a skin material making him look quite ferocious and mosnterous. The Begins like thick muscular neck helps as well. But it also feels plausible as a Kevlar type material with armor built into it. Not to mention the lighting and color blocking being what IMO is the best option, black / grey. In what little we have seen its already my favorite on screen look of the character. Just so classic and truly menacing.

Snyder does it again. Delivers faithfulness but believability with a strong cup of bad ass: Rorschach, Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, and now Aquaman finally looking credible. Cool even. He's easily the GOAT visual comic book movie director and costume adapter to the screen.

 

[BeastWings]

Holy ****! Just saw the whole trailer! He looks like a beast! And that Batmobile is a Batwing!

Huh?

Also spoilers bro ... It's the damn costume thread. And how did you see the whole trailer?

What kind of quality?